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redmen4life
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here is one guy’s opinion who seems to have followed Mitchell closely. Says Mitchell is an incredible defensive player. Is capable of guarding 1 -5. But says his offense is non-existent. Does say that a better PG and offensive system can help.
(Also the fact he’s playing center at 6’5” is pretty crazy. Not a recipe for success no matter how talented you are )
(Also the fact he’s playing center at 6’5” is pretty crazy. Not a recipe for success no matter how talented you are )
guinness77
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Don’t worry. He’ll be elevated to God status once we don’t get Pryor.
ChiTown Red
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Bio at Texas said he's 6'8".
I think we may all be forgetting someone. How about………Glen Taylor? Great defense and motor. Beloved by us fans for his hardwork. He knows Coach Rick’s system. I would take him over the unknown Pryor in a heartbeat. Mitchell appears to be very athletic but can’t hit an outside shot. Bring back Glen.
Taylor is a wing and Pitino has repeatedly stated he’s looking for a PF. Taylor is gone.
How come he hasn’t signed with another school?
This is important. Both have different strengths. We may be better off with an athletic freak like Mitchell as we already have guys like Luis and Scott to play any stretch roles that maybe Pryor would want to try to play. I think both are very different and would be equally good for us in different ways. One person mentioned that Mitchell has done it at a high level for 2 years at Texas which translates well for us level-wise into the big east.
All of that said I’d take Pryor by far I’d it came down to it. Mitchell is purely an inside player and not a good shooter. Zero ability from the outside and more turnovers than assists for his career. It’s dunk or die for Mitchell. I’d still take him as he can get to the hole and really dominate the glass but skill set outside of transition buckets and rebounds would need to be majorly honed. Let’s see what happens.
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Mullins Revenge
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Absolutely not. No taylor, dingle or ledlum. They had their shot and could not get it done. We need better players.
Bring in one more stud Rick!!!!
Rocket
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They were both advised to portal per previous meta data.
Even so, it doesn't change the circumstances of the lawsuit which doesn't require either to be in the portal.
Consider their portal in the twilight zone of NCAA in another dimension that transcends all portals!
Rocket
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Then, if comes to SJ, he will be listed as 6'9".....with sneakers.
SeattleJohnny
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Ledlum is the glue guy that wins us a ton of games this year. That's it, that's all
He will be 7 foot standing oh his NiL money
My two cents, completely ignoring the ALL important chemistry and blending of skills to create a team. Same as last years portal related posting. So Smith needs the ball, so does Richmond, to a certain degree Luis. It appears Pryor does also, or will expect to.
Who is going to do the “dirty work” that the team lacked last year? Who is going to screen, who’s going to balance the floor when SJU is on offense, which was a glaring weakness that was never solved last year, as evidenced by the easy baskets UConn got in the final loss last year, 5 of them after Johnnie makes.
I hope I am wrong but I do not think Pitino’s strength as a coach is piecing teams together year over year. I expect similar “learning curves” next year. Whatever the count is exactly, 8 or 9 new players, 3-5 starters who never played a minute together, all players who may be, at the end of the day, “chasing the NBA”.
Sorry to throw water on all the “studs” most are salivating over but teams win, individual talent does not. We shall see…
Who is going to do the “dirty work” that the team lacked last year? Who is going to screen, who’s going to balance the floor when SJU is on offense, which was a glaring weakness that was never solved last year, as evidenced by the easy baskets UConn got in the final loss last year, 5 of them after Johnnie makes.
I hope I am wrong but I do not think Pitino’s strength as a coach is piecing teams together year over year. I expect similar “learning curves” next year. Whatever the count is exactly, 8 or 9 new players, 3-5 starters who never played a minute together, all players who may be, at the end of the day, “chasing the NBA”.
Sorry to throw water on all the “studs” most are salivating over but teams win, individual talent does not. We shall see…
Defense was a rough last year, we all know the punch lines.
College basketball reference has a stat they call "Defensive Rating" and they define it as “an estimate of points allowed per 100 possessions.”
How much you decide to take from that I’ll leave up to you. However looking at it for last years team and the current commits/targets something stands out.
For last years team, our 3 highest "Defensive Ratings" were:
Zuby: 101.3
Chris: 101.3
Luis: 101.5
Everyone else was below 103.
When those players transferred to SJU the year before, coincidence or not, those three had the highest Defensive Rating over their career.
"Def Rating" over their career prior to SJU
Zuby: 90.2
Chris: 93.3
Luis: 100.6
The rest of the transfer contributors "Def rating" over their career prior to SJU:
Jenkins: 100.9
Nahiem: 102.8
Dingle: 107.7
Conway: 108.5
Taylor: 110.7
Now our commits so far this portal season.
The transfers we have coming in:
Scott: 94.0
Richmond: 96.5
Smith: 100.7
Vince: 105.1
And our targets:
Pryor: 94.0
Watkins: 95.5
Mitchell: 97.6
So according to this, we retained our 2 best defenders with eligibility left and we’ve targeted players with solid Defensive Ratings (besides Vince). You can choose to believe if it means anything or not but I found it interesting.
College basketball reference has a stat they call "Defensive Rating" and they define it as “an estimate of points allowed per 100 possessions.”
How much you decide to take from that I’ll leave up to you. However looking at it for last years team and the current commits/targets something stands out.
For last years team, our 3 highest "Defensive Ratings" were:
Zuby: 101.3
Chris: 101.3
Luis: 101.5
Everyone else was below 103.
When those players transferred to SJU the year before, coincidence or not, those three had the highest Defensive Rating over their career.
"Def Rating" over their career prior to SJU
Zuby: 90.2
Chris: 93.3
Luis: 100.6
The rest of the transfer contributors "Def rating" over their career prior to SJU:
Jenkins: 100.9
Nahiem: 102.8
Dingle: 107.7
Conway: 108.5
Taylor: 110.7
Now our commits so far this portal season.
The transfers we have coming in:
Scott: 94.0
Richmond: 96.5
Smith: 100.7
Vince: 105.1
And our targets:
Pryor: 94.0
Watkins: 95.5
Mitchell: 97.6
So according to this, we retained our 2 best defenders with eligibility left and we’ve targeted players with solid Defensive Ratings (besides Vince). You can choose to believe if it means anything or not but I found it interesting.
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Thanks Mase.
Interesting that Taylor was not in the Top 3 this year but Luis was. So many here (including me) noted how Taylor was one of our best defenders at times. No Alleyne in Top 3 either.
Interesting that Taylor was not in the Top 3 this year but Luis was. So many here (including me) noted how Taylor was one of our best defenders at times. No Alleyne in Top 3 either.
Like +/- numbers, a large part is impacted by who you are on the court with. So it’s not perfect by any means, but I don’t think it’s meaningless either.
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