SJU hoops will soon be unrecognizable

One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Actually most of the posters who disappeared are the ones who only seemed to first appear when Lavin was on the verge of being let go. Ya know the ones who stated that "a well deserved long term extension had already been finalized" and other such nonsensical statements. They hung around for a while after Lavin was let go so they could chastise the administration for the "huge mistake they had made". As soon as Chris was hired they went the way of the third ave el, never to be heard from again. Only confirming what I had felt all along, that they were not actually fans of the program but either pot stirrers, friends of the prior staff , or both. We saw the same clowns come out towards the tail end of Norms tenure.


Actually I've been here long before Lavin,et al , even Looie. I was in favor of keeping Lavin and thought he would add a few good recruits to go along with Sampson, and continue winning 20 games a year. However I have no issue with the Mullin hiring and think it has the making of something really great. Can't speak of other supporters.

I think tha based on the survey here that overwhelingly favored a Lavin hire, nearly all had reservations but knew where the program was before Lavin came here. Not that you have to, but LAvin never really connected with fans, with New York City, with Queens. While he chose to live in the city, he was hardly a fixture on campus, and unlike guys like Keith Hernandez of even Rusty Staub, he didn't work to make himself a New Yorker as both those guys are. He seemed to punch a clock and not driven outwardly for the heights of success. Maybe that's harsh because California guys are different than NYers in terms of expressing the competitiveness to win. And maybe that's the point. He may have done reasonably well here, but never seemed to fit. Mullin on the other hand fits like a glove, and he appears hellbent on building a top program - of course whether he does remains to be seen but it wont be from lack of effort.

Great story, Monte. Wright is a great speaker, charismatic and charming personality. Had he not made it in basketball, he'd likely been a high level corporate executive. He has the ability to chat with casual acquaintances and find common ground, and become animated and interested in casual conversation. You walk away feeling he is your friend, and maybe you are. He speak, preaches, and exudes what it is to be a Villanovan, far above that of being a mere student or fan.

Mullin, while not nearly possessing the charism that Wright possesses, can be that type of ambassador for St. John's. The entire reason he came back here is because he found himself on a crash course with destiny, being drawn into a legacy that is much bigger than Chris Mullin. It becmae clear that there really isn't another torch bearer of his magnitude, and certainly he was drawn by a strong sense of obligation to Coach C. and St. John's. While others are capable of winning here, more than anyone he embodied th school - the city - whie he was here. So, like cheesy movies, this is his destiny. The moment has arrived, and another important chapter in that 100 year book of SJU basketball will be written. For most of us, stronger than hope, is a conviction that this chapter will be as bright and successful as those storied pages before it.

Well said Beast. FWIW Chris has a genuine NYC/Brooklyn charisma, that goes a very very long ways.
 
One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Actually most of the posters who disappeared are the ones who only seemed to first appear when Lavin was on the verge of being let go. Ya know the ones who stated that "a well deserved long term extension had already been finalized" and other such nonsensical statements. They hung around for a while after Lavin was let go so they could chastise the administration for the "huge mistake they had made". As soon as Chris was hired they went the way of the third ave el, never to be heard from again. Only confirming what I had felt all along, that they were not actually fans of the program but either pot stirrers, friends of the prior staff , or both. We saw the same clowns come out towards the tail end of Norms tenure.


Actually I've been here long before Lavin,et al , even Looie. I was in favor of keeping Lavin and thought he would add a few good recruits to go along with Sampson, and continue winning 20 games a year. However I have no issue with the Mullin hiring and think it has the making of something really great. Can't speak of other supporters.

Salty wasn't talking about you and other long time posters who felt that lavin should have been retained and expressed their opinions, which I may not have agreed with but I most certainly respected. I was talking specifically about posters who only appeared towards the tail end of Lavin's tenure and who were making outlandish pro-lavin(IE best coach we ever had, etc) and anti-administration/anti-SJU(IE no one wants to come here, etc) opinions and proclamations. Many of whom also touted their "inside info" about Lavin being retained.

It's well known that SJU compared to other competition, as a school/campus in and of itself, without considering basketball, is a tough sell. Come spend 4 years in Jamaica, is a tough sell.

Have you ever been to stores?

http://cag.uconn.edu/ansci/ansci/images/DSC_0259.JPG
 
One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Actually most of the posters who disappeared are the ones who only seemed to first appear when Lavin was on the verge of being let go. Ya know the ones who stated that "a well deserved long term extension had already been finalized" and other such nonsensical statements. They hung around for a while after Lavin was let go so they could chastise the administration for the "huge mistake they had made". As soon as Chris was hired they went the way of the third ave el, never to be heard from again. Only confirming what I had felt all along, that they were not actually fans of the program but either pot stirrers, friends of the prior staff , or both. We saw the same clowns come out towards the tail end of Norms tenure.


Actually I've been here long before Lavin,et al , even Looie. I was in favor of keeping Lavin and thought he would add a few good recruits to go along with Sampson, and continue winning 20 games a year. However I have no issue with the Mullin hiring and think it has the making of something really great. Can't speak of other supporters.

Salty wasn't talking about you and other long time posters who felt that lavin should have been retained and expressed their opinions, which I may not have agreed with but I most certainly respected. I was talking specifically about posters who only appeared towards the tail end of Lavin's tenure and who were making outlandish pro-lavin(IE best coach we ever had, etc) and anti-administration/anti-SJU(IE no one wants to come here, etc) opinions and proclamations. Many of whom also touted their "inside info" about Lavin being retained.

It's well known that SJU compared to other competition, as a school/campus in and of itself, without considering basketball, is a tough sell. Come spend 4 years in Jamaica, is a tough sell.

I did spend 4 years in Jamaica, and I've spent 56 years in NYC. With all the issues, still the greatest city in the world in most people's opinion. But let's put opinion aside, if NYC and SJU are such a tough sell, explain to me how it is that every single coach we have ever had here, has had no trouble getting kids to come here? Even Norm got decent talent to come here. The only reason he couldn't land the blue chippers was because of legitimate concerns about his coaching acumen.

MSG.

I was referring to our campus and facilities, and location. I'm not complaining, but when there's a kid that can go somewhere with state of the art facilities or come here, it's an uphill battle. Luckily, for us, we do have Coach, who has clearly shown that he can get kids here.
 
One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Actually most of the posters who disappeared are the ones who only seemed to first appear when Lavin was on the verge of being let go. Ya know the ones who stated that "a well deserved long term extension had already been finalized" and other such nonsensical statements. They hung around for a while after Lavin was let go so they could chastise the administration for the "huge mistake they had made". As soon as Chris was hired they went the way of the third ave el, never to be heard from again. Only confirming what I had felt all along, that they were not actually fans of the program but either pot stirrers, friends of the prior staff , or both. We saw the same clowns come out towards the tail end of Norms tenure.


Actually I've been here long before Lavin,et al , even Looie. I was in favor of keeping Lavin and thought he would add a few good recruits to go along with Sampson, and continue winning 20 games a year. However I have no issue with the Mullin hiring and think it has the making of something really great. Can't speak of other supporters.

Salty wasn't talking about you and other long time posters who felt that lavin should have been retained and expressed their opinions, which I may not have agreed with but I most certainly respected. I was talking specifically about posters who only appeared towards the tail end of Lavin's tenure and who were making outlandish pro-lavin(IE best coach we ever had, etc) and anti-administration/anti-SJU(IE no one wants to come here, etc) opinions and proclamations. Many of whom also touted their "inside info" about Lavin being retained.

It's well known that SJU compared to other competition, as a school/campus in and of itself, without considering basketball, is a tough sell. Come spend 4 years in Jamaica, is a tough sell.

Compares to Fordham & Manhattan imo.
 
One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Actually most of the posters who disappeared are the ones who only seemed to first appear when Lavin was on the verge of being let go. Ya know the ones who stated that "a well deserved long term extension had already been finalized" and other such nonsensical statements. They hung around for a while after Lavin was let go so they could chastise the administration for the "huge mistake they had made". As soon as Chris was hired they went the way of the third ave el, never to be heard from again. Only confirming what I had felt all along, that they were not actually fans of the program but either pot stirrers, friends of the prior staff , or both. We saw the same clowns come out towards the tail end of Norms tenure.


Actually I've been here long before Lavin,et al , even Looie. I was in favor of keeping Lavin and thought he would add a few good recruits to go along with Sampson, and continue winning 20 games a year. However I have no issue with the Mullin hiring and think it has the making of something really great. Can't speak of other supporters.

I think tha based on the survey here that overwhelingly favored a Lavin hire, nearly all had reservations but knew where the program was before Lavin came here. Not that you have to, but LAvin never really connected with fans, with New York City, with Queens. While he chose to live in the city, he was hardly a fixture on campus, and unlike guys like Keith Hernandez of even Rusty Staub, he didn't work to make himself a New Yorker as both those guys are. He seemed to punch a clock and not driven outwardly for the heights of success. Maybe that's harsh because California guys are different than NYers in terms of expressing the competitiveness to win. And maybe that's the point. He may have done reasonably well here, but never seemed to fit. Mullin on the other hand fits like a glove, and he appears hellbent on building a top program - of course whether he does remains to be seen but it wont be from lack of effort.

Great story, Monte. Wright is a great speaker, charismatic and charming personality. Had he not made it in basketball, he'd likely been a high level corporate executive. He has the ability to chat with casual acquaintances and find common ground, and become animated and interested in casual conversation. You walk away feeling he is your friend, and maybe you are. He speak, preaches, and exudes what it is to be a Villanovan, far above that of being a mere student or fan.

Mullin, while not nearly possessing the charism that Wright possesses, can be that type of ambassador for St. John's. The entire reason he came back here is because he found himself on a crash course with destiny, being drawn into a legacy that is much bigger than Chris Mullin. It becmae clear that there really isn't another torch bearer of his magnitude, and certainly he was drawn by a strong sense of obligation to Coach C. and St. John's. While others are capable of winning here, more than anyone he embodied th school - the city - whie he was here. So, like cheesy movies, this is his destiny. The moment has arrived, and another important chapter in that 100 year book of SJU basketball will be written. For most of us, stronger than hope, is a conviction that this chapter will be as bright and successful as those storied pages before it.

Well said Beast. FWIW Chris has a genuine NYC/Brooklyn charisma, that goes a very very long ways.[/quo

Agree Monte.
Different varieties of charisma, magnetism, energy emanating - Wright is Wright. Chris just has to be himself - walks into a room and his own type shines. Both can be successful.
Wright has, Chris will.
Most of us agree, we're in such good hands.
 
One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Actually most of the posters who disappeared are the ones who only seemed to first appear when Lavin was on the verge of being let go. Ya know the ones who stated that "a well deserved long term extension had already been finalized" and other such nonsensical statements. They hung around for a while after Lavin was let go so they could chastise the administration for the "huge mistake they had made". As soon as Chris was hired they went the way of the third ave el, never to be heard from again. Only confirming what I had felt all along, that they were not actually fans of the program but either pot stirrers, friends of the prior staff , or both. We saw the same clowns come out towards the tail end of Norms tenure.


Actually I've been here long before Lavin,et al , even Looie. I was in favor of keeping Lavin and thought he would add a few good recruits to go along with Sampson, and continue winning 20 games a year. However I have no issue with the Mullin hiring and think it has the making of something really great. Can't speak of other supporters.

Salty wasn't talking about you and other long time posters who felt that lavin should have been retained and expressed their opinions, which I may not have agreed with but I most certainly respected. I was talking specifically about posters who only appeared towards the tail end of Lavin's tenure and who were making outlandish pro-lavin(IE best coach we ever had, etc) and anti-administration/anti-SJU(IE no one wants to come here, etc) opinions and proclamations. Many of whom also touted their "inside info" about Lavin being retained.

It's well known that SJU compared to other competition, as a school/campus in and of itself, without considering basketball, is a tough sell. Come spend 4 years in Jamaica, is a tough sell.

Have you ever been to stores?

http://cag.uconn.edu/ansci/ansci/images/DSC_0259.JPG


hahaha!
 
One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Yeah, all the guys you mentioned are actually big supporters of Coach Mullin. I don't see that changing for a very long time, if ever. Coach Mullin commands respect and is a big part of the St. John's family.

I only see a few trolls left standing like Jumbo_Peanuts and a few other contrarians that have already drawn their lines in the sand. Instant success is probably the only thing that can bring them back, but some guys are just so stubborn that they'd rather be right (or not wrong) than see SJU be successful.
 
One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Yeah, all the guys you mentioned are actually big supporters of Coach Mullin. I don't see that changing for a very long time, if ever. Coach Mullin commands respect and is a big part of the St. John's family.

I only see a few trolls left standing like Jumbo_Peanuts and a few other contrarians that have already drawn their lines in the sand. Instant success is probably the only thing that can bring them back, but some guys are just so stubborn that they'd rather be right (or not wrong) than see SJU be successful.

And exactly why am I a troll again?

Please just answer a few simple questions for me. These are just hypothetical, so please bear with me. What are you going to do if the whole Mullin experiment doesn't work out? I know we all want and think it is going to work out, but there is just as much probability that it won't. Are you willing to turn your back on the greatest player that ever played here? Because at the end of the day, it's all about wins and losses. What are you going to do IF in 4-5years, we are still not winning enough?
 
One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Yeah, all the guys you mentioned are actually big supporters of Coach Mullin. I don't see that changing for a very long time, if ever. Coach Mullin commands respect and is a big part of the St. John's family.

I only see a few trolls left standing like Jumbo_Peanuts and a few other contrarians that have already drawn their lines in the sand. Instant success is probably the only thing that can bring them back, but some guys are just so stubborn that they'd rather be right (or not wrong) than see SJU be successful.

And exactly why am I a troll again?

Maybe something happened in your childhood that made you become a troll.. Who really knows why you're one? Maybe something to discuss with your therapist.
 
One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Actually most of the posters who disappeared are the ones who only seemed to first appear when Lavin was on the verge of being let go. Ya know the ones who stated that "a well deserved long term extension had already been finalized" and other such nonsensical statements. They hung around for a while after Lavin was let go so they could chastise the administration for the "huge mistake they had made". As soon as Chris was hired they went the way of the third ave el, never to be heard from again. Only confirming what I had felt all along, that they were not actually fans of the program but either pot stirrers, friends of the prior staff , or both. We saw the same clowns come out towards the tail end of Norms tenure.


Actually I've been here long before Lavin,et al , even Looie. I was in favor of keeping Lavin and thought he would add a few good recruits to go along with Sampson, and continue winning 20 games a year. However I have no issue with the Mullin hiring and think it has the making of something really great. Can't speak of other supporters.

Salty wasn't talking about you and other long time posters who felt that lavin should have been retained and expressed their opinions, which I may not have agreed with but I most certainly respected. I was talking specifically about posters who only appeared towards the tail end of Lavin's tenure and who were making outlandish pro-lavin(IE best coach we ever had, etc) and anti-administration/anti-SJU(IE no one wants to come here, etc) opinions and proclamations. Many of whom also touted their "inside info" about Lavin being retained.

It's well known that SJU compared to other competition, as a school/campus in and of itself, without considering basketball, is a tough sell. Come spend 4 years in Jamaica, is a tough sell.

I loved my four years at St. John's. Do I wish we had 3 or400 acres instead of 1? Sure, but I always felt part of the family, part of the MSG scene and part of a tradition of SJU grads in my family. Stuff your Notre Dame or Villanova (sorry, Beast) experiences. I still get a thrill being on campus. You make a place home.
 
One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Yeah, all the guys you mentioned are actually big supporters of Coach Mullin. I don't see that changing for a very long time, if ever. Coach Mullin commands respect and is a big part of the St. John's family.

I only see a few trolls left standing like Jumbo_Peanuts and a few other contrarians that have already drawn their lines in the sand. Instant success is probably the only thing that can bring them back, but some guys are just so stubborn that they'd rather be right (or not wrong) than see SJU be successful.

And exactly why am I a troll again?

Please just answer a few simple questions for me. These are just hypothetical, so please bear with me. What are you going to do if the whole Mullin experiment doesn't work out? I know we all want and think it is going to work out, but there is just as much probability that it won't. Are you willing to turn your back on the greatest player that ever played here? Because at the end of the day, it's all about wins and losses. What are you going to do IF in 4-5years, we are still not winning enough?

most people worry about incurable disease or ISIS or the economy. You seem a little too hung up on hurting CM's feelings 4-5 years from now if he isn't good at his job. REALITY CHECK BUD
 
One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Yeah, all the guys you mentioned are actually big supporters of Coach Mullin. I don't see that changing for a very long time, if ever. Coach Mullin commands respect and is a big part of the St. John's family.

I only see a few trolls left standing like Jumbo_Peanuts and a few other contrarians that have already drawn their lines in the sand. Instant success is probably the only thing that can bring them back, but some guys are just so stubborn that they'd rather be right (or not wrong) than see SJU be successful.

And exactly why am I a troll again?

Please just answer a few simple questions for me. These are just hypothetical, so please bear with me. What are you going to do if the whole Mullin experiment doesn't work out? I know we all want and think it is going to work out, but there is just as much probability that it won't. Are you willing to turn your back on the greatest player that ever played here? Because at the end of the day, it's all about wins and losses. What are you going to do IF in 4-5years, we are still not winning enough?

most people worry about incurable disease or ISIS or the economy. You seem a little too hung up on hurting CM's feelings 4-5 years from now if he isn't good at his job. REALITY CHECK BUD

There are posters on here talking about all of the number 1 recruiting classes, and the possibility of winning national championship(s)....all from a coach who has never coached a single game before. And I am the one who need a reality check???
 
One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Yeah, all the guys you mentioned are actually big supporters of Coach Mullin. I don't see that changing for a very long time, if ever. Coach Mullin commands respect and is a big part of the St. John's family.

I only see a few trolls left standing like Jumbo_Peanuts and a few other contrarians that have already drawn their lines in the sand. Instant success is probably the only thing that can bring them back, but some guys are just so stubborn that they'd rather be right (or not wrong) than see SJU be successful.

And exactly why am I a troll again?

Please just answer a few simple questions for me. These are just hypothetical, so please bear with me. What are you going to do if the whole Mullin experiment doesn't work out? I know we all want and think it is going to work out, but there is just as much probability that it won't. Are you willing to turn your back on the greatest player that ever played here? Because at the end of the day, it's all about wins and losses. What are you going to do IF in 4-5years, we are still not winning enough?

most people worry about incurable disease or ISIS or the economy. You seem a little too hung up on hurting CM's feelings 4-5 years from now if he isn't good at his job. REALITY CHECK BUD

There are posters on here talking about all of the number 1 recruiting classes, and the possibility of winning national championship(s)....all from a coach who has never coached a single game before. And I am the one who need a reality check???

No, you probably do not need a reality check. What you do need is to stop posting negative comments at every opportunity and let everyone else bask in the light of having CM as the coach. If you want to post negative crap all the time, go post on a Mets thread in the Baseball forum.
 
. And exactly why am I a troll again?

Please just answer a few simple questions for me. These are just hypothetical, so please bear with me.
.......

If you ignore "Peanuts" and do not respond to him then he has no one to respond to.
 
One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Yeah, all the guys you mentioned are actually big supporters of Coach Mullin. I don't see that changing for a very long time, if ever. Coach Mullin commands respect and is a big part of the St. John's family.

I only see a few trolls left standing like Jumbo_Peanuts and a few other contrarians that have already drawn their lines in the sand. Instant success is probably the only thing that can bring them back, but some guys are just so stubborn that they'd rather be right (or not wrong) than see SJU be successful.

People will turn if we struggle. This is not exactly Earth shattering news but it will happen. I also feel for next year some here have unreasonable expectations. That by itself is OK, but I would be willing to bet that if we struggle, some on here predicting greatness will be among the first to jump to the dark side. Basically we should be optimistic about the future of the program, but be patient and realistic about next season.
 
Yyy
One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Yeah, all the guys you mentioned are actually big supporters of Coach Mullin. I don't see that changing for a very long time, if ever. Coach Mullin commands respect and is a big part of the St. John's family.

I only see a few trolls left standing like Jumbo_Peanuts and a few other contrarians that have already drawn their lines in the sand. Instant success is probably the only thing that can bring them back, but some guys are just so stubborn that they'd rather be right (or not wrong) than see SJU be successful.

People will turn if we struggle. This is not exactly Earth shattering news but it will happen. I also feel for next year some here have unreasonable expectations. That by itself is OK, but I would be willing to bet that if we struggle, some on here predicting greatness will be among the first to jump to the dark side. Basically we should be optimistic about the future of the program, but be patient and realistic about next season.
Well said & quite fair.
 
One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Yeah, all the guys you mentioned are actually big supporters of Coach Mullin. I don't see that changing for a very long time, if ever. Coach Mullin commands respect and is a big part of the St. John's family.

I only see a few trolls left standing like Jumbo_Peanuts and a few other contrarians that have already drawn their lines in the sand. Instant success is probably the only thing that can bring them back, but some guys are just so stubborn that they'd rather be right (or not wrong) than see SJU be successful.

And exactly why am I a troll again?

Please just answer a few simple questions for me. These are just hypothetical, so please bear with me. What are you going to do if the whole Mullin experiment doesn't work out? I know we all want and think it is going to work out, but there is just as much probability that it won't. Are you willing to turn your back on the greatest player that ever played here? Because at the end of the day, it's all about wins and losses. What are you going to do IF in 4-5years, we are still not winning enough?

most people worry about incurable disease or ISIS or the economy. You seem a little too hung up on hurting CM's feelings 4-5 years from now if he isn't good at his job. REALITY CHECK BUD

There are posters on here talking about all of the number 1 recruiting classes, and the possibility of winning national championship(s)....all from a coach who has never coached a single game before. And I am the one who need a reality check???

It's always fun to start the season with hope, instead of always chanting, "Wait 'til next year."
 
One thing you know for sure is once we lose a few consecutive games trolls avon barksdale and ricky smith will reappear. Notice how the former has disappeared in last month when the program appears to be on upswing. Lol

Thought Barksdale and family are big Mullin fans. Surprised we haven't heard from him.

My apologies to AB if so.

Yeah, all the guys you mentioned are actually big supporters of Coach Mullin. I don't see that changing for a very long time, if ever. Coach Mullin commands respect and is a big part of the St. John's family.

I only see a few trolls left standing like Jumbo_Peanuts and a few other contrarians that have already drawn their lines in the sand. Instant success is probably the only thing that can bring them back, but some guys are just so stubborn that they'd rather be right (or not wrong) than see SJU be successful.

And exactly why am I a troll again?

Please just answer a few simple questions for me. These are just hypothetical, so please bear with me. What are you going to do if the whole Mullin experiment doesn't work out? I know we all want and think it is going to work out, but there is just as much probability that it won't. Are you willing to turn your back on the greatest player that ever played here? Because at the end of the day, it's all about wins and losses. What are you going to do IF in 4-5years, we are still not winning enough?

most people worry about incurable disease or ISIS or the economy. You seem a little too hung up on hurting CM's feelings 4-5 years from now if he isn't good at his job. REALITY CHECK BUD

There are posters on here talking about all of the number 1 recruiting classes, and the possibility of winning national championship(s)....all from a coach who has never coached a single game before. And I am the one who need a reality check???

No, you probably do not need a reality check. What you do need is to stop posting negative comments at every opportunity and let everyone else bask in the light of having CM as the coach. If you want to post negative crap all the time, go post on a Mets thread in the Baseball forum.

Why do the 'negative' posts have to stop? Just because you don't want to read them? All they are is just a different way to look at our situation. This is an open forum used to discuss the basketball program. And with that it should be open to all opinions and ideas. I shouldn't be told to stop posting just because I say something that you don't want to hear.
 
There are posters on here talking about all of the number 1 recruiting classes, and the possibility of winning national championship(s)....all from a coach who has never coached a single game before. And I am the one who need a reality check???

Link?
 
Why do the 'negative' posts have to stop? Just because you don't want to read them? All they are is just a different way to look at our situation. This is an open forum used to discuss the basketball program. And with that it should be open to all opinions and ideas. I shouldn't be told to stop posting just because I say something that you don't want to hear.

I think people tell you to stop because they find you to be an annoying d-bag, not because your opinion differs.
 
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