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Shamorie Ponds
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[quote="Paultzman" post=291373]https://thebiglead.com/2018/08/01/50-best-players-college-basketball-2018-2019/[/quote]
Thanks Paultz.
Interesting that Mustapha didn’t make the List, nor the ‘Just Missed’ category. His uncertain ‘eligibility’ status perhaps?
Thanks Paultz.
Interesting that Mustapha didn’t make the List, nor the ‘Just Missed’ category. His uncertain ‘eligibility’ status perhaps?
[quote="Paultzman" post=291373]https://thebiglead.com/2018/08/01/50-best-players-college-basketball-2018-2019/[/quote]
#32? And 3 returning Big East players ahead of him?
I'll take the player who put up monster numbers against the top tier teams over nearly everyone else on that list.
Ponds didn't appear to be playing at 100% for nearly the entire month of January. It wasn't until the Xavier game that he started playing well. He scored at least 15 points in his final 9 games. How many other players on the list were the the main star in wins over top 5 teams?
He also missed a couple games right before the BET, so it's hard to say how often he was actually playing at full strength. I think a lot of times these articles just look at season totals and don't take other factors into account.
So glad we have Ponds back.
#32? And 3 returning Big East players ahead of him?
I'll take the player who put up monster numbers against the top tier teams over nearly everyone else on that list.
Ponds didn't appear to be playing at 100% for nearly the entire month of January. It wasn't until the Xavier game that he started playing well. He scored at least 15 points in his final 9 games. How many other players on the list were the the main star in wins over top 5 teams?
He also missed a couple games right before the BET, so it's hard to say how often he was actually playing at full strength. I think a lot of times these articles just look at season totals and don't take other factors into account.
So glad we have Ponds back.
MarkRedman
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[quote="NCJohnnie" post=291395]32 way too low. Just one more motivation for Shamorie to have a phenomenal year. Two BE guards rated ahead of him?[/quote]
I agree, especially with many touting him as the preseason Big East POY
I agree, especially with many touting him as the preseason Big East POY
JohnnyFever
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Ponds is a great player but to be fair he shot 25% from 3...that's horrid. Yes he was hurt for some time, I know. But even still that number is shockingly bad for a player of his caliber. If he can prove he can shoot 37-40% from 3, he's probably in college basketball's top 10. He must improve his 3 point shooting, but if Heron is playing he will attract a lot of attention from teams and free him up more which will help him be more efficient.
Very odd imo, Heron didn't make either the List--or the 'just missed' with an * that he would've been on if definitely eligible.
Aside from Mustapha's exclusion, and Shamorie's low #32 ranking, I can see Simon needing to show more to be included on this List and I'm not surprised that our other guys, including Clark, Figgy, Dixon, were excluded--with the obvious need to show more.
But, that's okay.
We'll show them.
Aside from Mustapha's exclusion, and Shamorie's low #32 ranking, I can see Simon needing to show more to be included on this List and I'm not surprised that our other guys, including Clark, Figgy, Dixon, were excluded--with the obvious need to show more.
But, that's okay.
We'll show them.
I expect Heron is treated as ineligible for purposes like this list unless and until he gets his exemption approved. Wouldn't expect anyone else besides Shamorie to be on a top 50 in the country pre-season list, but would have expected Shamorie to be at least top 20-25.
prjohnnies
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I've seen both Ponds and Howard numerous times. No knock on Howard, but I take Ponds everyday and twice on Sunday. Perhaps my view is clouded by the fact that Ponds has had some great games against Howard, including the game at the Garden when they were both freshman and Howard struggled to bring the ball up.
If the criteria was strictly next season's college performance Ponds and even Simon would rate higher but a big part of the rating is based on possible NBA future.
Backcourt and wing players in the NBA have to be good shooters and Pond's three point shooting was far from competent last year. A player his size has to shoot forty per cent to have an NBA future and Simon's only bad part of his game is a consistent outside shot.
They still should be one of college bb best back courts this season.
Backcourt and wing players in the NBA have to be good shooters and Pond's three point shooting was far from competent last year. A player his size has to shoot forty per cent to have an NBA future and Simon's only bad part of his game is a consistent outside shot.
They still should be one of college bb best back courts this season.
SJU press release
Web Release
QUEENS, N.Y. (Oct. 15, 2018) – The preseason honors have started to trickle in for junior guard Shamorie Ponds, as the Brooklyn native was named to the Preseason Watch List for the Bob Cousy Award, it was announced this afternoon by the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame.
The Bob Cousy Award, one of five accolades bestowed by the Hall corresponding to the five traditional positions on the floor, recognizes the best point guard in the game of college basketball. The watch list will be trimmed to 10 by mid-February before a group of five finalists in March. The winner of the award will be announced at the ESPN College Basketball Awards Show presented by Wendy’s on Friday, April 12, 2019, in Los Angeles.
Markus Howard of Marquette on list as well
Web Release
QUEENS, N.Y. (Oct. 15, 2018) – The preseason honors have started to trickle in for junior guard Shamorie Ponds, as the Brooklyn native was named to the Preseason Watch List for the Bob Cousy Award, it was announced this afternoon by the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame.
The Bob Cousy Award, one of five accolades bestowed by the Hall corresponding to the five traditional positions on the floor, recognizes the best point guard in the game of college basketball. The watch list will be trimmed to 10 by mid-February before a group of five finalists in March. The winner of the award will be announced at the ESPN College Basketball Awards Show presented by Wendy’s on Friday, April 12, 2019, in Los Angeles.
Markus Howard of Marquette on list as well
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Kyle Boone of CBS sports puts Ponds at #7 nationally, in his point guard rankings.
[URL][URL]https://www.cbssports.com...llege-basketball-entering-the-2018-19-season/[/URL][/URL]
7. Shamorie Ponds | St. John's | Junior
2017-18 stats: 21.6 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 4.7 apg
As far as overall talent level, scoring potency and NBA potential, Ponds may easily be top-3 on this list. But as a sophomore last season, he proved to be turnover-prone, and also shot an unremarkable 25.3 percent clip from the 3-point line. Still yet, opportunity will be abundant for Ponds to be a feature player for St. John's, a team that, with Mustapha Heron eligible, should absolutely be expected to be an NCAA Tournament team.
[URL][URL]https://www.cbssports.com...llege-basketball-entering-the-2018-19-season/[/URL][/URL]
7. Shamorie Ponds | St. John's | Junior
2017-18 stats: 21.6 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 4.7 apg
As far as overall talent level, scoring potency and NBA potential, Ponds may easily be top-3 on this list. But as a sophomore last season, he proved to be turnover-prone, and also shot an unremarkable 25.3 percent clip from the 3-point line. Still yet, opportunity will be abundant for Ponds to be a feature player for St. John's, a team that, with Mustapha Heron eligible, should absolutely be expected to be an NCAA Tournament team.