Oh, come on, that is nonsense, language spoken in times of the stress of competition should go in one ear and out the other. There is speech and communication and there is emotional noise, two entirely different things.
Seton Hall (UBS), Sun., Feb. 18, 5p, FS-1
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So Hurley shouldn't be accountable for anything he says in the "stress of competition"?
If he called one of his players a racial slur does this still apply? Would you still be down with that?
I say that, not cause I think he would do that, but to point out that, there is always a line. Even if you refer to something as "emotional noise" people can still be held accountable for what they say. Just because he hasn't crossed YOUR line (and perhaps never will), doesn't mean he has carte blanche with everyone else.
That’s part of the issue Freddie. If we had Clayton and Storr this would be a much different team. If we had the NIL set up the way we do now when Pitino first came Storr might be here. Such is life. It still doesn’t excuse this group from not playing defense for 40 minutes or not hustling back after misses.
Accountable in what way? Have your own opinion on someone else’s speech, that is all the accountability I would endorse. And don’t parse out “racial slurs” because that takes us in an area this site does not allow. I am not going there other than to say words are words that are given power by whatever credence is given to the speaker by the listener.
Watch-out for making threats, Danny.....
Aggravated harassment in the second degree
Penal (PEN) CHAPTER 40, PART 3, TITLE N, ARTICLE 240.....
§ 240.30 Aggravated harassment in the second degree.
A person is guilty of aggravated harassment in the second degree when:
1. With intent to harass another person, the actor either:....
(a) communicates,...
a threat to cause physical
harm to such person, or
causes such person to
reasonably fear harm to such person's physical safety...
Aggravated harassment in the second degree
Penal (PEN) CHAPTER 40, PART 3, TITLE N, ARTICLE 240.....
§ 240.30 Aggravated harassment in the second degree.
A person is guilty of aggravated harassment in the second degree when:
1. With intent to harass another person, the actor either:....
(a) communicates,...
a threat to cause physical
harm to such person, or
causes such person to
reasonably fear harm to such person's physical safety...
I think I liked this site better when the team was winning.
Now I'm probably gonna have to make a thread called "No Country For Old Men" and move a few pages of this thread there.
BTW, just as a reminder (and none of the recent back and forth has gotten close to the line but since a couple of other posts have I am taking this opportunity to mention it): the religion and politics forum was closed years ago, it is not reopened, and please steer clear of The Third Rail of Redmen Dot Com.
Thanks all
Now I'm probably gonna have to make a thread called "No Country For Old Men" and move a few pages of this thread there.
BTW, just as a reminder (and none of the recent back and forth has gotten close to the line but since a couple of other posts have I am taking this opportunity to mention it): the religion and politics forum was closed years ago, it is not reopened, and please steer clear of The Third Rail of Redmen Dot Com.
Thanks all
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A year ago? I thought it was a decade ago. Memories . . . Wonder whatever happened to US Congress.
Meant "years," thanks for the edit reminder. I assume USC is still working for the congressman since the congressman is still in Congress.
I do agree that the only accountability he really deserves right now is that people are going to see how he acts and have a negative opinion of him. That is a side effect of conducting himself the way he conducts himself on tv for everyone to see.
But I bring up "racial slur" as an example to showcase that there are lines people can cross with their words that I don't think can simply be explained away as "its just the heat of competition".
I'm glad Hurley has never done anything like calling a player a racial slur, but my point is if he did, I don't believe anyone would be in here excusing it and chalking it up to the heat of competition. Meaning there is a point where "words dont matter, actions do" doesn't hold up under any real scrutiny when sober/able minded human beings are in complete control of what comes out of their mouth no matter the circumstance.
He was responding to someone yelling at him so doubt you can prove his intent was to harass it was likely to shut the other person up.
What ever his intentions, he needs to act like an adult. He should of said nothing.
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In terms of Hurley, if he was responding to the fan yelling “welcome to Omaha”, his reaction was a bit over the top.
he went to a lobbyist firm a long time ago think has his own firm now
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Every single one!
Yes but each team is limited to two foreign players. Very few guaranteed contacts and if you don’t produce you get cut.
You did not have to be a basketball savant to know our team is slow, especially laterally, does not get back on defense, and is foul prone!!! No secrets here ! That pro talent evaluators somehow would overlook these issues is plain silly.