Seton Hall Game

beast of the east · Jan 22, 2014

Syracuse plays all of its game at the Carrier Dome, and with their attendance can make a case for it. It actually makes no business sense to build a bigger arena on campus for SJU. If we ever are going to draw 15-18K per game it wouldn't be in Jamaica, it would be at MSG. So, where you may be able to make a case to build an 8K arena, the payback would be a much long time, since there are few games we would draw more than 5K for on campus.

T6K0E6 · Jan 22, 2014

They can re-build another 6k arena that is fine but they have to keep up with the times. You want a respectable team you need respectable facilities. You need to invest to win.

beast of the east · Jan 22, 2014

Unfortunately, with the remake of CA being so expensive, they are not likely to simply put up another 6 K arena anytime soon. I would have liked a new arena, but it is what it is I guess. A real seat would be nice at my age.

SJUalum98 · Jan 22, 2014

D'Angelo calls Gift the leader of the team.

http://www.redstormsports.com/allaccess/?media=428750

redfazed · Jan 23, 2014

That's interesting, as Lavin had specifically called upon Harrison to play the leadership role for the team heading into last season. We all know what transpired at the end of last season--but I got the sense that Harrison was trying to re-assume that leadership role this season.

Andrew · Jan 23, 2014

Why can't they have an arena as nice as someone like Binghamton? This was built ten years ago and seats 5,500 for basketball. More than half are chair backs. It cost 33 million at the time.
http://www.bubearcats.com/facilities/index.html

Pray4change · Jan 23, 2014

Time to put up or shut up. Team is lacking confidence and will struggle tomorrow. Seton Hall is playing pretty decent and will create big problems for St. John's. Will St. John's continue to fold like a tent once SH puts up a good fight or will they fight back?

Season looks bleak, program outlook looks bleaker, and another loss will certainly pull the plug on supporting the program any further this year.

SJUalum98 · Jan 23, 2014

I think D'Angelo was talking moreso of Gift leading by example. The way he practices, his demeanor, his effort.

Gift has a lot of maturity over the rest of the group.

That's a lot to put on D'Angelo.

My guess is that Lavin wanted D'Angelo to step up and develop the leadership of Hardy but not everyone is cut from the same cloth.

ras · Jan 23, 2014

i grew up 20 minutes from SHU. My first SJU game was there. I enjoyed the small intimate setting. That game got me hooked on college BB. Walsh auditorium was also the gym for SEton Hall prep.I was on the wrestling team and they were on our schedule,

Section3 · Jan 23, 2014

Definitely don't want to play SHU @ MSG Next year...don't give Whitehead an opportunity to play in mSG outside of the BE tourney

salty dog · Jan 23, 2014

back in the day only a couple of Big East games were at the Garden Syracuse and Gtown. The rest were played at Alumni Hall and there was never less than 6000 fans. I remember John Bagley and BC at Alumni Hall and it must have had 6500 people jammed in. The bottom rows had people sitting in the aisles.
Winning draws fans. Nothing else. Just ask the Yankees about their attendance prior to Joe Torre. 4,000,000 fans in the Bronx. Unheard of. Let the Johnnie's start winning like they did and it will be much harder to get seats and the cost will go up.

beast of the east · Jan 23, 2014

Binghamton is a state school. They were spending taxpayer money, not private money. If the reno of CA put all seatbacks in, I'm guessing that capacity would decline by 20-25%. IMO CA has nothing to do with our losing streak, and not important enough to discuss at this time. If you know someone with $50-60 million to donate who really wants a new arena, it will happen. If not, no.

beast of the east · Jan 23, 2014

Are you a season ticket holder, or do you watch games from TV? At every critical moment, it is Harrison who leads this team. It is Harrison who talks to the guy at the FT line, who drapes his arms around his teammates in a huddle and who does most of the talking. You can put failure to deliver in crunch time on Harrison, but not failure to lead. On the court, it's clear that his teammates like and trust Harrison, and that he is clearly supportive of them. GG may be a leader off the court, in practice, in the locker room, but there is nothing in his oncourt demeanor that suggests he leads this team.

beast of the east · Jan 23, 2014

I'm sure the Fire department would have cleared out the arena in those days. You'd have bleacher rows with 20 seats with 24 people crammed in, spilled onto the aisles. Annoying as hell, but a sign of exciting, winning basketball with a raucous crowd. It would take 20 minutes to get out of the lot. Read the accounts of Maravich at LSU. The arena was absolutely horrific, leaky roof and all, and located in football country. No basketball tradition to speak of, yet Maravich packed the place to the rafters. We aren't even talking about winning in that case - just brilliance never seen before.

paultzman · Jan 23, 2014

http://nypost.com/2014/01/23/red-storm-are-hungry-for-a-victory/

paultzman · Jan 23, 2014

"An unshakable optimist, Lavin says he sees the positive in the disappointment that fills his locker room and the community around the Storm. Expectations mean everyone cares. “The flip side of that is apathy and no hope and no expectation – that’s where (St. John’s) had been for most of the last 15 years.”

Read more:http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...in-seton-hall-article-1.1588438#ixzz2rEIFrbub

SJU1512 · Jan 23, 2014

Watching the Red Storm Report last week one of the primary issues has started to crystalize for me: there is a disconnect between the style Lavin thinks we play in theory and the way we actually play on the court. He referenced (paraphrashing) fast paced, increased possessions. Few things could be further from the truth.

Despite what he says the reality seems to be that Lavin likes a style and players who are "in control". That's probably why he doesn't like to press - too helter skelter. That's proably why he can't handle Branch for long stretches, and has gone away from Rysheed at times - they try to make things happen and in doing so turn it over sometimes, even though they might make 3x more great plays in the process. And that certainly seems to be why he likes PGIV so much, citing that turnover stat constantly, while ignoring the fact that he has again morphed into one of our primary ballhandlers but doesn't have an assist in 5 consecutive games.

All of this is surprising, because John Wooden, Lavin's mentor, said "If you're not making mistakes, you're not doing anything."

That summarizes where Lavin has us this year. Starting tonight, he needs to turn this team - and particularly its best players, like Jordan - loose. Make a mistake, get back on defense and don't worry that a sub is coming for you. Turn up the volume defensively to at least 3/4 court. If we're going to go down this season we may as well go down playing our game; the game Lavin talks about us playing but that we've actually played for maybe 10% of games so far this year.

Marillac · Jan 23, 2014

Spot on. He talks about the team like we are VCU. The only thing they speed up is a layup if it goes to Sanchez or Pointer and that almost always results in them pulling up at the three point line out of control to reset. The reality is they get scared after pressing a few plays the first time they get burnt. You are going to get burnt in a press from time to time and you can't be scared of it. I have no idea why they think they can man press with the best shot-blocker in the country and then get surprised when he gets caught nowhere near the basket. Leave Obekpa/Sanchez back to defend the basket and go crazy with the other four. Even if the opponent gets the ball up court without a problem, they've wasted time and they are often flustered.

paultzman · Jan 23, 2014

Agree, nice post.

MainMan · Jan 23, 2014

Okay, so who are we playing and when is the game?

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