Seton Hall - 2nd Game
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redfan259999888
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Next year he'll say "we're the youngest team" again, but in his 6th year there shouldn't be a reason for that excuse.
I do not want a coach who constantly makes excuses year in and year out.
People say "oh oh oh but if Lavin leaves then the next coach will be a mid major coach." Maybe that's true, but hopefully he'll admit to doing a bad job, if they have a bad year, and work hard to right the ship. I want a coach who is straight up, not a BS'er.
Look, kill me for going after our coach, but why do I go after him? Maybe because I care and I know in my heart that we should be there with Villanova and G-Town at the top. They are in D.C. and Philly, well SJU is in NYC. We belong with those two schools, yet for some reason we're not.
It has to change this year, some how some way.
Class of 72
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I happen to agree with Simplyred that the Lavin blurbs were in answers to inquiries and taken out of context. He did not "only" mention injuries but "other issues". Those other issues were partly Rysheed Jordan issues and other player issues on a very thin team. That thin team as we all know had to do with players not qualifying.
As for blowing the beginning of the Big East play, the common denominator was players not stepping up or not playing (Rysheed once again). In the Butler game at MSG Rysheed was not with the team.
Prior to that game Rysheed was having "issues " and plays half the game in the Seton Hall loss.
In Chicago Harrison stunk and Garrett hit 13-13 free throws. In the Georgetown loss both Harrison and Jordan never got on the team bus shooting 1-17. When your "star guards" are that inconsistent and unreliable it is a MAJOR ISSUE. We just don't like that the "issue" looks like an excuse.
Finally, when there are mice in the house and someone is laying out cheese for them, you have to question motives. Reporters are being fed negatives about Lavin by a few insiders. None of these reporters really actively follow game to game dynamics that have led to our current bubble status.
Those dynamics include the inconsistencies at guard play that cost St. John's three games: DePaul, Butler at MSG and Creighton. Those 3 losses may have cost St. John's an NCAA bid. 20-6 at this stage of the season would have meant a guaranteed bid. It is that simple.
As critical as I have been on Lavin over the past two years, those 3 losses that may decide his job were on his players and not his game coaching or made up excuses.
Class of 72
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Lavin's dad passed away 2 years ago. Last year at this juncture lousy team chemistry cost St. John's the beginning of the Big East season. At some point the players performance needs to be evaluated along with the coach. My pet peeve has been Harrison not showing up for big games and Rysheed Jordan showing up for only half the games he plays. The fate of last season and definitely this one hinged on those two players. One joined the elite scoring leaders in the record books and the other does not like books. Hard on a 5 man team to overcome player obstacles like that regardless of the coach. Poor recruiting for depth has been our wizard's biggest problem not his tweets or what seems to be endless excuses.
Don't want to continuously bash the coach. I just wanna make the tournament. Beat the hall. I don't care if it's an ugly win. But it needs to be a W
All I would expect him to say. And not say.
beast of the east
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This game has danger written all over it. I predict we will win, but I don't think it will be easy, even if we were playing their cheerleaders.
beast of the east
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Geez, When did you cross over to the Maher side of the street...?
This is a G rated site mostly.
Geez, When did you cross over to the Maher side of the street...?
LOL! :lol: My mind went there when I read simplyred's post about playing WITH their cheerleaders!
I know red, I gotta get my mind out of the gutter. :blush:
I like your posts because of your fair
mindedness. Perhaps we can reach Appomattox or even nirvana between "the forces of good and evil" concerning Coach Lavin.
Perhaps we can have you seated between Grant and Lee serving as the federal moderator....watch out for the crossed Sabres!
Thanks '72!
Geez, When did you cross over to the Maher side of the street...?
LOL! :lol: My mind went there when I read simplyred's post about playing WITH their cheerleaders!
I know red, I gotta get my mind out of the gutter. :blush:
Seton Hall's cheerleaders are in the gutter?
Makes me think of the old Beatles song "Why don't we do it in the road?"