Season Ticket Holders Changes 2025-26

“Free Agency” costs will continue to rise until the bubble eventually bursts. When that is, who knows. It is easy to see that many programs even at A10 level will certainly not prosper in near future and face a cloudy future.

I like college ball, but evolution of mega conferences will lessen my interest. The exciting Cinderella upsets in the Dance, which made it special will fade and make NCAA “Party” less interesting.

Players deserve a piece of the pie and should have the mobility coaches have, but the cost of doing business for non football schools seems on a steep and challenging trajectory that may eclipse fundraising & revenue generation capabilities.
 
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I totally understand everyone’s frustration on this topic, I in some ways feel similar. However, I do understand this is a move to keep us competitive in an ever changing environment. I said to myself I would donate again this year if we make March madness. Maybe I’ll up that donation just a bit so I’m not sitting on Chase bridge next year vs my great seats I have now.
 
paultzman said:
“Free Agency” costs will continue to rise until the bubble eventually bursts. When that is, who knows. It is easy to see that many programs even at A10 level will certainly not prosper in near future and face a cloudy future.

I like college ball, but evolution of mega conferences will lessen my interest. The exciting Cinderella upsets in the Dance, which made it special will fade and make NCAA “Party” less interesting.

Players deserve a piece of the pie and should have the mobility coaches have, but the cost of doing business for non football schools seems on a steep and challenging trajectory that may eclipse fundraising & revenue generation capabilities.
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All true but not much we can do.. sju is not even the tail. Pony up or perish.

Rick is doing everything within his power to elevate this program. We only have him because of all the already discussed reasons, but he has worked his ass off like a guy in his 30s and has not lost his fastball IMO.

Really up to supporters to step up. A sustainable program isn't built on a small handful of megadonors. We can become ccny or nyu or liu any other nyc program that once was big time. Seton Hall is headed for the doldrums and post Rick, that could be us.

I do think if some of us cancel, we will be quickly replaced by those who see $2000 for a single season ticket to big time college bball as a bargain. I'm guessing that once everyone settles down there will be far more renewals than cancels and net gain with new fans buying season tix
 
Beasts of the East said:
All i know is that being a season ticket holder since George Johnson, of all the courtside folks only 1 or 2 were around that long. The rest wouldn't know George Johnson from Magic Johnson. Then again, those folks largely have donated 7 figures or more. Still it sucks but that's life.
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Speaking of courtside folks... Does the gentleman with the old school Redmen jacket post here? ....such a sick jacket
 
It's an arms race out there. Look at Ohio St in football. 20 million equals championship. Next year it won't. Look at the SEC OOC performance this year. Look at what the SEC, Big 10 and Big 12 are doing that has obliterated the Pac12 and is well on its way to doing the same to the ACC. That is football money bleeding over to basketball. This, for better or (my opinion) worse, this is the reality of the state of the game. For years, this board has complained about how Mom and Pop St. John's is and how we don't think big and don't do what it takes to win. Well, we're here. Shanley is here. Pitino is here. Kull is here. They are going to operate in a manner that makes us competitive at the highest levels of the Big East and as close to the highest levels nationally as possible. This is part of that. Will there be butthurt? Apparently, yes. But, this is what needs to be done to stay in the game. The alternative is where Seton Hall is right now. I was at the Pru Center the other night. They didn't look like they were having too much fun. It was much nicer to be where we are.

Everyone is entitle to their opinion and can spend their hard earned cash the way they see fit. But, for me, if the cost of my tickets go up or my seat is a little worse, then that is a small price to pay to enjoy what we have and what we want versus what we have experienced for the vast majority of the last 25 years. Yes, it is absolutely commendable to retain your seats when the times are bad. In a perfect world, you would you would be rewarded in kind when times are good. But, we don't live in that world. Its dog eat dog and survival of the fittest.
 
Boo Harvey said:
Below is the email I just sent to Father Shanley with a copy to the athletic department. I entitled it "Betrayed Season Ticket Holder and Fan."

Dear Father Shanley,

My name is Will Reiss. By way of background, my Grandfather, Mom and her three siblings all attended SJU. While I didn't attend SJU myself, I have been a diehard fan for 40 years (since I was eight-years-old).

When people ask me why I'm such a big fan given that I didn't attend the school, I tell them it's because my love of the university is in my blood passed down from two generations. I was raised to be a SJU fan, and watching and attending games has provided countless bonding moments with my Dan and Uncle (like me, my Dad did not attend SJU but he is a diehard fan).

I am as passionate a SJU fan as they come and I bleed red and white despite never having attended the university. For instance, I proudly display a large SJU flag in front of my home, much to my wife's chagrin. My Uncle, Dad and I text incessantly about the program and anybody who knows me even casually knows my passion for the program. For better or for worse, being a Red Storm fan has become a large part of my identity as a person.

Despite living in NJ, it had always been my dream to be a season ticket holder. For well over a decade I have held season tickets (two seats) for all games. For the prior two decades, I purchased various plans and individual seats. As I'm sure you'll agree, the product was frequently poor and the fan base was apathetic to put it nicely. Nonetheless, I remained steadfast and loyal, purchasing season tickets year in and year out at significant expense. No matter how bad the team, how apathetic the fan base and how empty the arena, I never missed a game, traveling two hours each way from my home in NJ (bus to train to bus). During the COVID year, I purchased season tickets even though I didn't feel comfortable attending the games in-person just so I could maintain my season tickets. Those tickets mean the world to me.

As you can imagine, I felt a sense of shock and betrayal after receiving the recent correspondence suggesting that I may lose my seats based on the University's "reallocation initiative." I get it that this is a business and that money is critical, particularly in the NIL era. But this is no way to treat your loyal fans. Surely there are ways to encourage donations and raise money without penalizing the program's most loyal supporters.

And respectfully, I found the correspondence to be in particularly bad taste given that, with a few minor exceptions, this year is the first real hint of prosperity we've had in nearly 30 years. Yet, for fans like myself who have remained loyal (in both wallet and spirit), the school is threatening to take away or diminish our seats at the first sign of progress.

I strongly urge you to reconsider your policy, which I think is not only a slight to your most loyal fan base, but will likely result in minimal if any financial gain. To the contrary, I suspect many will share my reaction which may well result in a backlash against the program.

I also request that you please forward this email to Mr. Kull. While I don't think it's productive for me to engage in threats or ultimatums, particularly over something that means so much to me, I can't imagine how I could remain a fan, no less a season ticket holder, if the University follows through on its threat to take away or diminish my season tickets in the coming years.

-Will
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Very well said! I could not agree more!
 
Beasts of the East said:
All true but not much we can do.. sju is not even the tail. Pony up or perish.

Rick is doing everything within his power to elevate this program. We only have him because of all the already discussed reasons, but he has worked his ass off like a guy in his 30s and has not lost his fastball IMO.

Really up to supporters to step up. A sustainable program isn't built on a small handful of megadonors. We can become ccny or nyu or liu any other nyc program that once was big time. Seton Hall is headed for the doldrums and post Rick, that could be us.

I do think if some of us cancel, we will be quickly replaced by those who see $2000 for a single season ticket to big time college bball as a bargain. I'm guessing that once everyone settles down there will be far more renewals than cancels and net gain with new fans buying season tix
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Agree on the solid effort of SJU & Rick in this challenging hoops environment. I also don’t see the upside of cancelling tickets, but acknowledge that is a personal decision. My comments were macro in nature and also agree that seeing SHs of the world headed to the doldrums is painful.

Onward and beat Xavier!
 
weathermannyc said:
It's an arms race out there. Look at Ohio St in football. 20 million equals championship. Next year it won't. Look at the SEC OOC performance this year. Look at what the SEC, Big 10 and Big 12 are doing that has obliterated the Pac12 and is well on its way to doing the same to the ACC. That is football money bleeding over to basketball. This, for better or (my opinion) worse, this is the reality of the state of the game. For years, this board has complained about how Mom and Pop St. John's is and how we don't think big and don't do what it takes to win. Well, we're here. Shanley is here. Pitino is here. Kull is here. They are going to operate in a manner that makes us competitive at the highest levels of the Big East and as close to the highest levels nationally as possible. This is part of that. Will there be butthurt? Apparently, yes. But, this is what needs to be done to stay in the game. The alternative is where Seton Hall is right now. I was at the Pru Center the other night. They didn't look like they were having too much fun. It was much nicer to be where we are.

Everyone is entitle to their opinion and can spend their hard earned cash the way they see fit. But, for me, if the cost of my tickets go up or my seat is a little worse, then that is a small price to pay to enjoy what we have and what we want versus what we have experienced for the vast majority of the last 25 years. Yes, it is absolutely commendable to retain your seats when the times are bad. In a perfect world, you would you would be rewarded in kind when times are good. But, we don't live in that world. Its dog eat dog and survival of the fittest.
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Again I don’t have a major problem with the price of my tickets increasing, what I do have a major problem with exchanging my seats for less desirable seats!
 
Beasts of the East said:
All true but not much we can do.. sju is not even the tail. Pony up or perish.

Rick is doing everything within his power to elevate this program. We only have him because of all the already discussed reasons, but he has worked his ass off like a guy in his 30s and has not lost his fastball IMO.

Really up to supporters to step up. A sustainable program isn't built on a small handful of megadonors. We can become ccny or nyu or liu any other nyc program that once was big time. Seton Hall is headed for the doldrums and post Rick, that could be us.

I do think if some of us cancel, we will be quickly replaced by those who see $2000 for a single season ticket to big time college bball as a bargain. I'm guessing that once everyone settles down there will be far more renewals than cancels and net gain with new fans buying season tix
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Don’t bet on it!!!!!!
 
rcatalano said:
Again I don’t have a major problem with the price of my tickets increasing, what I do have a major problem with exchanging my seats for less desirable seats!
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I certainly understand your point. But, the reality of things is that someone who just showed up but is willing to donate 20k per year is going to get access to good seats.
 
Did anyone see the report today or yesterday that IU’s athletic department laid off 25 people? None of those laid off are within the sports programs or coaches/staff. All layoffs were in the AD office’s compliance and communications.

This is going to happen all over the place in order to keep up in the new revenue sharing model. Pretty sad if you ask me but it is what it is.

Do away with the portal and make some of sort of contractual framework/requirements for paying players and making them stay put or be penalized for leaving. Enough is enough!
 
rcatalano said:
Again I don’t have a major problem with the price of my tickets increasing, what I do have a major problem with exchanging my seats for less desirable seats!
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would you have a problem with the U giving your seats to someone else if they are willing to pay 2-3-4-5 X$ what you pay?

Live Auction would be incredibly interesting ... lol... you guys ever do a Fantasy Auction Draft?

next up sec 115 row 8 seats 9/10 - start bidding at 2000$ lol
 
sirvoo said:
Did anyone see the report today or yesterday that IU’s athletic department laid off 25 people? None of those laid off are within the sports programs or coaches/staff. All layoffs were in the AD office’s compliance and communications.

This is going to happen all over the place in order to keep up in the new revenue sharing model. Pretty sad if you ask me but it is what it is.

Do away with the portal and make some of sort of contractual framework/requirements for paying players and making them stay put or be penalized for leaving. Enough is enough!
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Congress sticking its nose in NIL policy development should further complicate things. Ineptitude at its “finest” 🫣
 
There’s so many variables that it’s hard to really know what the implications of all of this is. If universities opt into revenue sharing, they’re capped at 20 million for all sports and have to provide money for all sports.

I can very well see a world where these football schools end up being disadvantaged because of how much money football costs vs. basketball.

I can also see the resource and money disparity being too much after a certain point. But the beauty of college basketball vs the NBA is that there are extremely few superstars who guarantee success in any program they’re in. Arkansas and Kansas state have HUGE NIL budgets and have fell on their faces.

I’m happy the athletic department is evaluating their options. There will be things that absolutely suck about it — losing seats, raises in ticket prices, etc. — but the misery of being a fan of this team the last 25 years makes me completely ready to embrace whatever we end up doing.
 
Alex9045 said:
Thank goodness for 4k TV these days!
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I don't tell people how to spend their $. But I'll say this. The cost of every life sporting experience is going up like crazy.

I got asked to go to a Knicks game next week through some "reduced ticket special" the person asking had access to because of his employment, and the seats in the 200 level are like $200 a pop. I get 3 season tickets per game for with good seats for not much more than that on a per game basis. And I've used expanding my tickets as a way to not only bring family but connect with former classmates, friends, etc. Even with this, if the next few years are like the last year-and-a-half, its the best deal around here.
 
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