Rysheed Jordan

Marco Baldi on jj said Sheed was close to leaving and Lavin sent him home to think about things. I believe him, makes sense when you put everything together.

LOL - Baldi is so full of crap that it's coming out his ears...Completely makes stuff up at times just to troll St. John's fans and has absolutely no info whatsoever...Don't ever believe a word he says

Posters just need to learn to ignore him completely, but it unfortunately hasn't happened yet.
Even if I disregard Baldis statement, Paultzmans statements worry me. I don't know if Paultzman has any inside info, but he seems concerned about the possibility of Sheed not returning.
 
Marco Baldi on jj said Sheed was close to leaving and Lavin sent him home to think about things. I believe him, makes sense when you put everything together.

LOL - Baldi is so full of crap that it's coming out his ears...Completely makes stuff up at times just to troll St. John's fans and has absolutely no info whatsoever...Don't ever believe a word he says

Posters just need to learn to ignore him completely, but it unfortunately hasn't happened yet.
Even if I disregard Baldis statement, Paultzmans statements worry me. I don't know if Paultzman has any inside info, but he seems concerned about the possibility of Sheed not returning.

I think Paultzman knows a lot of people who would know these things. Has he said anything in the past day or so?

I think Baldi is a flat-out liar 75 percent of the time just to rile people up, whereas Paultzman is definitely not.

I personally was shocked that Rysheed came back, but that was more a feeling and looking at the overall picture than anything else. If he's not happy here come April, I think a transfer to Temple without penalty would be as much of a certainty with the NCAA as anything can be. I think he grew up like six blocks from there, and his mom's health woes seem to be documented.

But NBA talk is crazy at this point.
 
Marco Baldi on jj said Sheed was close to leaving and Lavin sent him home to think about things. I believe him, makes sense when you put everything together.

LOL - Baldi is so full of crap that it's coming out his ears...Completely makes stuff up at times just to troll St. John's fans and has absolutely no info whatsoever...Don't ever believe a word he says

Posters just need to learn to ignore him completely, but it unfortunately hasn't happened yet.
Even if I disregard Baldis statement, Paultzmans statements worry me. I don't know if Paultzman has any inside info, but he seems concerned about the possibility of Sheed not returning.

I think Paultzman knows a lot of people who would know these things. Has he said anything in the past day or so?

I think Baldi is a flat-out liar 75 percent of the time just to rile people up, whereas Paultzman is definitely not.

I personally was shocked that Rysheed came back, but that was more a feeling and looking at the overall picture than anything else. If he's not happy here come April, I think a transfer to Temple without penalty would be as much of a certainty with the NCAA as anything can be. I think he grew up like six blocks from there, and his mom's health woes seem to be documented.

But NBA talk is crazy at this point.

NBA talk is beyond absurd. This is a legendary draft with proven commodities at the position starting with Marcus Smart. There is also the PG that just beat Jordan a few days ago, Semaj Christon, Jahii Carson, and the Australian kid that has be projected top 5 for over a year. There are also a ton of solid seniors like Craft, Napier, and Burton.
On top of that, there are plenty of underclassmen pgs like Harrison or the Canadian kid from BC with more complete games that are better prospects. You could even make a case for Yogi Farrell who is shooting 43% from three.

Jordan is shooting 14% from three with only 2.6 assists per game. Jahii Carson, by comparison is scoring 20 ppg and shooting over 50% from three while dishing over 5 asissts per game. He'll need another year before he is even considered.
 
Agree with your post Marillac, but logic is not the issue. Jordan seems to be, from what I gather & am told, a mercurial kid, from a tough background with a number of folks in his ear. I am not predicting anything, but have prepared myself for strong possibility that we have him for only this season. I know he is not ready for NBA and would thrive here, but what matters is what he & his supporters think, right or wrong. I still maintain he was on cusp of leaving when he went home to be with his mom, but don't see the upside of debating that further.

I choose not to worry any longer about his intentions and just hope Lavin delivers on his NCAA Tourney aspirations this season. Anything less is unsatisfactory IMO. Winning solves a lot of evils, so with much time left in season, perhaps we end the year on a positive note.
 
Agree with your post Marillac, but logic is not the issue. Jordan seems to be, from what I gather & am told, a mercurial kid, from a tough background with a number of folks in his ear. I am not predicting anything, but have prepared myself for strong possibility that we have him for only this season. I know he is not ready for NBA and would thrive here, but what matters is what he & his supporters think, right or wrong. I still maintain he was on cusp of leaving when he went home to be with his mom, but don't see the upside of debating that further.

I choose not to worry any longer about his intentions and just hope Lavin delivers on his NCAA Tourney aspirations this season. Anything less is unsatisfactory IMO. Winning solves a lot of evils, so with much time left in season, perhaps we end the year on a positive note.

I don't disagree with you at all. My posts on these matters are directed to the people who have these kids' ears. Even considering leaving in the draft could be a monumental mistake. Cook and Barkley were both much more highly ranked and regarded and all over mock drafts at the same point of their careers, and they fell flat on their faces. Jordan isn't even listed as a 2nd round pick in 2015. I think that can change quickly because he does have ideal size and athletic ability, but he is shooting 14%, only dishing out 2.6 apg, and has to come with some question marks due to his "inconsistencies" off the court. 14 pgs were take in the draft last season and there are at least five that would go before him this year even if he single-handedly leads us to the Sweet 16. There are plenty of people that question if he is a true PG as well. The last thing you want to do is head into the draft as a 6'3/6'3 combo guard.
 
Agree with your post Marillac, but logic is not the issue. Jordan seems to be, from what I gather & am told, a mercurial kid, from a tough background with a number of folks in his ear. I am not predicting anything, but have prepared myself for strong possibility that we have him for only this season. I know he is not ready for NBA and would thrive here, but what matters is what he & his supporters think, right or wrong. I still maintain he was on cusp of leaving when he went home to be with his mom, but don't see the upside of debating that further.

I choose not to worry any longer about his intentions and just hope Lavin delivers on his NCAA Tourney aspirations this season. Anything less is unsatisfactory IMO. Winning solves a lot of evils, so with much time left in season, perhaps we end the year on a positive note.

I don't disagree with you at all. My posts on these matters are directed to the people who have these kids' ears. Even considering leaving in the draft could be a monumental mistake. Cook and Barkley were both much more highly ranked and regarded and all over mock drafts at the same point of their careers, and they fell flat on their faces. Jordan isn't even listed as a 2nd round pick in 2015. I think that can change quickly because he does have ideal size and athletic ability, but he is shooting 14%, only dishing out 2.6 apg, and has to come with some question marks due to his "inconsistencies" off the court. 14 pgs were take in the draft last season and there are at least five that would go before him this year even if he single-handedly leads us to the Sweet 16. There are plenty of people that question if he is a true PG as well. The last thing you want to do is head into the draft as a 6'3/6'3 combo guard.

Good points.
 
Agree with your post Marillac, but logic is not the issue. Jordan seems to be, from what I gather & am told, a mercurial kid, from a tough background with a number of folks in his ear. I am not predicting anything, but have prepared myself for strong possibility that we have him for only this season. I know he is not ready for NBA and would thrive here, but what matters is what he & his supporters think, right or wrong. I still maintain he was on cusp of leaving when he went home to be with his mom, but don't see the upside of debating that further.

I choose not to worry any longer about his intentions and just hope Lavin delivers on his NCAA Tourney aspirations this season. Anything less is unsatisfactory IMO. Winning solves a lot of evils, so with much time left in season, perhaps we end the year on a positive note.

FWIW, I heard from some BB people in Jersey that Jordan was not coming back; MJ Dinkins can confirm, I PM'd him with the info prior to Jordan's return. Don't usually go public with what I hear but since he is back, no harm, no foul.
 
Agree with your post Marillac, but logic is not the issue. Jordan seems to be, from what I gather & am told, a mercurial kid, from a tough background with a number of folks in his ear. I am not predicting anything, but have prepared myself for strong possibility that we have him for only this season. I know he is not ready for NBA and would thrive here, but what matters is what he & his supporters think, right or wrong. I still maintain he was on cusp of leaving when he went home to be with his mom, but don't see the upside of debating that further.

I choose not to worry any longer about his intentions and just hope Lavin delivers on his NCAA Tourney aspirations this season. Anything less is unsatisfactory IMO. Winning solves a lot of evils, so with much time left in season, perhaps we end the year on a positive note.

FWIW, I heard from some BB people in Jersey that Jordan was not coming back; MJ Dinkins can confirm, I PM'd him with the info prior to Jordan's return. Don't usually go public with what I hear but since he is back, no harm, no foul.
That's exactly what Baldi said. He was the only poster to actually say it . The reason I believed Baldi is that other posters impied things were suspect w Sheed. I hope he returns next year.
 
I think Jordan played very well head to head with Ennis in that game vs SU.

He needs to be given the ball without reservation and not toyed with as Lavin has done so far. The ball should be in his hands as much as possible. Harrison is much more effective off the ball..Even when he shoots 7 for 20 or whatever.. Jordan can get him the ball where DLO can score. When DLO tries to create his own shot, off the dribble is where he gets in trouble.That's when the heaves start..

Let this Kid play,Steve..
 
Jordan, like most rookies, needed a period of adjustment, and since the Syracuse game, has stepped it up and showing why he is so highly regarded. I have a feeling that for this team, his evolvement is just in time, and before long he may be the go to guy in big spots.
 
Agree with your post Marillac, but logic is not the issue. Jordan seems to be, from what I gather & am told, a mercurial kid, from a tough background with a number of folks in his ear. I am not predicting anything, but have prepared myself for strong possibility that we have him for only this season. I know he is not ready for NBA and would thrive here, but what matters is what he & his supporters think, right or wrong. I still maintain he was on cusp of leaving when he went home to be with his mom, but don't see the upside of debating that further.

I choose not to worry any longer about his intentions and just hope Lavin delivers on his NCAA Tourney aspirations this season. Anything less is unsatisfactory IMO. Winning solves a lot of evils, so with much time left in season, perhaps we end the year on a positive note.

FWIW, I heard from some BB people in Jersey that Jordan was not coming back; MJ Dinkins can confirm, I PM'd him with the info prior to Jordan's return. Don't usually go public with what I hear but since he is back, no harm, no foul.
That's exactly what Baldi said. He was the only poster to actually say it . The reason I believed Baldi is that other posters impied things were suspect w Sheed. I hope he returns next year.

Please don't associate anything I post with Baldi. I posted concerning Jordan's absence as it relates to Paultzman's post that he believed there was a good chance he was not returning; my point was that other knowledgable BB people felt the same way. Baldi makes up crap to stir the pot and occasionally his posts seem relevant under the blind squirrel theory.
 
Per Kieran Darcy on twitter:

Rysheed Jordan has been playing through an ankle injury, per Steve Lavin. Limits lateral quickness, but expected to play vs. Nova
 
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/colleges/20140114_Jordan_maturing_at_St__John_s.html

Article On Jordan After Villanova game. Jay wright on Jordans 2nd Half:

"When he gets it going like that, he can go for 30," said Villanova coach Jay Wright, who scouted Jordan for years. "I've seen him play 100 times."

I guess he passed on Jordan and Lavin was a bottom feeder, if you believe some of these posts.
 
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/colleges/20140114_Jordan_maturing_at_St__John_s.html

Article On Jordan After Villanova game. Jay wright on Jordans 2nd Half:

"When he gets it going like that, he can go for 30," said Villanova coach Jay Wright, who scouted Jordan for years. "I've seen him play 100 times."

I guess he passed on Jordan and Lavin was a bottom feeder, if you believe some of these posts.

LOL I find those posts Comical. Jordan hasnt put it all together but anyone who knows the game can see he is a stud recruit.
 
Why we didn't stay with Jordan down the stretch against Nova is beyond me and just added to my growing frustration with this team. I know he was on the court but we should have been playing through him, not Harrison.
 
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