Robbins - Harkless turning pro

Hate to say it BUT without Harkless we are not very good next year. Another year of having no expectations. 
 

and you deduced this from what?? so even let's say if they got sampson, obekpa and a few others we would still not be very good?? how bout ya wait until after may 15th before you post nonsense about how good/bad the team will be...some of you on here are straight up ridiculous. uh yeah, we would be bad if harkless left and we had 5 players for next year, but that's not happening...we still have 2 months 2 sign guys....geez people are sooooo...i wish i could say things, however i'll abide by the site rules, but c'mon are people really this stupid on here???
 
Hate to say it BUT without Harkless we are not very good next year. Another year of having no expectations. 
 

and you deduced this from what?? so even let's say if they got sampson, obekpa and a few others we would still not be very good?? how bout ya wait until after may 15th before you post nonsense about how good/bad the team will be...some of you on here are straight up ridiculous. uh yeah, we would be bad if harkless left and we had 5 players for next year, but that's not happening...we still have 2 months 2 sign guys....geez people are sooooo...i wish i could say things, however i'll abide by the site rules, but c'mon are people really this stupid on here???
 

I wish some folks would wait until mid-May before dooming and glooming. But, what else can you do? Some people continue to forget we were playing with 6 players throughout most of the year. Not just 6 players.... It was a very young six players. I doubt we'll see only six players playing a season from now.

I'm gonna wait to see who comes aboard between April and May to gather an idea how our outlook will be in '12-'13 (with or without Harkless). Hopefully, others will follow suit. 
 
Hate to say it BUT without Harkless we are not very good next year. Another year of having no expectations. 
 

and you deduced this from what?? so even let's say if they got sampson, obekpa and a few others we would still not be very good?? how bout ya wait until after may 15th before you post nonsense about how good/bad the team will be...some of you on here are straight up ridiculous. uh yeah, we would be bad if harkless left and we had 5 players for next year, but that's not happening...we still have 2 months 2 sign guys....geez people are sooooo...i wish i could say things, however i'll abide by the site rules, but c'mon are people really this stupid on here???
 

I wish some folks would wait until mid-May before dooming and glooming. But, what else can you do? Some people continue to forget we were playing with 6 players throughout most of the year. Not just 6 players.... It was a very young six players. I doubt we'll see only six players playing a season from now.

I'm gonna wait to see who comes aboard between April and May to gather an idea how our outlook will be in '12-'13 (with or without Harkless). Hopefully, others will follow suit. 
 

Thats all I wish people would do. If come mid may and we have no one coming in than talk all the garbage you want, but these people just repeat the same thing about next year when we have no idea what to expect for next year yet...just want to knock some sense into them... 
 
We will be bringing in freshman or transfers- all new to the program. Teams made up of freshman,sophomores and a couple of transfers at our talent level don't make a serious dent in the Big East. We are not Kentucky we don't get that level of player as a freshman. 
 
We will be bringing in freshman or transfers- all new to the program. Teams made up of freshman,sophomores and a couple of transfers at our talent level don't make a serious dent in the Big East. We are not Kentucky we don't get that level of player as a freshman. [/quote


I think a team of talented Freshmen, Sophomores and a few JC's/Tranfers could do very well next year especially with the type of coaching staff that we have at STJ. This based on the fact that many kids that stayed in school last year due to the pending NBA lockout and all those kids will be declaring for the NBA draft this year. It's going to be a very deep draft. Couple that with the usual seniors graduating and I think that there will be many teams in the power conferences that will be young next year. It's also true that conversely, due to the deep draft this year some kids might stay in school that would maybe have left this year but that's not your top or elite quality type of player then. I think if we bring in the right group of players that fit the system and are talented, we can do very well next year.
 
Hate to say it BUT without Harkless we are not very good next year. Another year of having no expectations. 
 

and you deduced this from what?? so even let's say if they got sampson, obekpa and a few others we would still not be very good?? how bout ya wait until after may 15th before you post nonsense about how good/bad the team will be...some of you on here are straight up ridiculous. uh yeah, we would be bad if harkless left and we had 5 players for next year, but that's not happening...we still have 2 months 2 sign guys....geez people are sooooo...i wish i could say things, however i'll abide by the site rules, but c'mon are people really this stupid on here???
 

I wish some folks would wait until mid-May before dooming and glooming. But, what else can you do? Some people continue to forget we were playing with 6 players throughout most of the year. Not just 6 players.... It was a very young six players. I doubt we'll see only six players playing a season from now.

I'm gonna wait to see who comes aboard between April and May to gather an idea how our outlook will be in '12-'13 (with or without Harkless). Hopefully, others will follow suit. 
 

Thats all I wish people would do. If come mid may and we have no one coming in than talk all the garbage you want, but these people just repeat the same thing about next year when we have no idea what to expect for next year yet...just want to knock some sense into them... 
 

Why do certain posters feel that they have the right to tell other posters when they can express their frustration? Even if we don't get Sampson or Obekpa, I'm sure a number of posters will be saying wait until next year. And if we struggle the year after, certain posters will say give it another year.

The last 12 months have been disasterous and the horizon does not look bright. Everybody is hanging their hats on the mystic of Lavin and a few tweets. Sorry -- but that does not give me confidence.
 
Hate to say it BUT without Harkless we are not very good next year. Another year of having no expectations. 
 

and you deduced this from what?? so even let's say if they got sampson, obekpa and a few others we would still not be very good?? how bout ya wait until after may 15th before you post nonsense about how good/bad the team will be...some of you on here are straight up ridiculous. uh yeah, we would be bad if harkless left and we had 5 players for next year, but that's not happening...we still have 2 months 2 sign guys....geez people are sooooo...i wish i could say things, however i'll abide by the site rules, but c'mon are people really this stupid on here???
 

I wish some folks would wait until mid-May before dooming and glooming. But, what else can you do? Some people continue to forget we were playing with 6 players throughout most of the year. Not just 6 players.... It was a very young six players. I doubt we'll see only six players playing a season from now.

I'm gonna wait to see who comes aboard between April and May to gather an idea how our outlook will be in '12-'13 (with or without Harkless). Hopefully, others will follow suit. 
 

Thats all I wish people would do. If come mid may and we have no one coming in than talk all the garbage you want, but these people just repeat the same thing about next year when we have no idea what to expect for next year yet...just want to knock some sense into them... 
 

Why do certain posters feel that they have the right to tell other posters when they can express their frustration? Even if we don't get Sampson or Obekpa, I'm sure a number of posters will be saying wait until next year. And if we struggle the year after, certain posters will say give it another year.

The last 12 months have been disasterous and the horizon does not look bright. Everybody is hanging their hats on the mystic of Lavin and a few tweets. Sorry -- but that does not give me confidence.
 

perhaps it's because you and the others continue to regurgitate the same things over and over again...I'm not here saying everyday that we have a great recruiting class coming in, all i'm saying is wait at least until may 16th before you bitch and complain about the program and it's future...what is so hard for you to comprehend such a simple request?? are you that miserable in life that this seems to be where you take out your frustration?? on a college program with 18 year old kids playing?? wutev, you're gonna continue your negativity cuz well that's who you are.
 
I don't think I'm miserable. Losing Harkless is a huge step backwards. My hope now is that we bring in another very good class and pray that in another two years we can seriously contend for a final four. 
 
Hate to say it BUT without Harkless we are not very good next year. Another year of having no expectations. 
 

and you deduced this from what?? so even let's say if they got sampson, obekpa and a few others we would still not be very good?? how bout ya wait until after may 15th before you post nonsense about how good/bad the team will be...some of you on here are straight up ridiculous. uh yeah, we would be bad if harkless left and we had 5 players for next year, but that's not happening...we still have 2 months 2 sign guys....geez people are sooooo...i wish i could say things, however i'll abide by the site rules, but c'mon are people really this stupid on here???
 

I wish some folks would wait until mid-May before dooming and glooming. But, what else can you do? Some people continue to forget we were playing with 6 players throughout most of the year. Not just 6 players.... It was a very young six players. I doubt we'll see only six players playing a season from now.

I'm gonna wait to see who comes aboard between April and May to gather an idea how our outlook will be in '12-'13 (with or without Harkless). Hopefully, others will follow suit. 
 

Thats all I wish people would do. If come mid may and we have no one coming in than talk all the garbage you want, but these people just repeat the same thing about next year when we have no idea what to expect for next year yet...just want to knock some sense into them... 
 

Why do certain posters feel that they have the right to tell other posters when they can express their frustration? Even if we don't get Sampson or Obekpa, I'm sure a number of posters will be saying wait until next year. And if we struggle the year after, certain posters will say give it another year.

The last 12 months have been disasterous and the horizon does not look bright. Everybody is hanging their hats on the mystic of Lavin and a few tweets. Sorry -- but that does not give me confidence.
 

perhaps it's because you and the others continue to regurgitate the same things over and over again...I'm not here saying everyday that we have a great recruiting class coming in, all i'm saying is wait at least until may 16th before you bitch and complain about the program and it's future...what is so hard for you to comprehend such a simple request?? are you that miserable in life that this seems to be where you take out your frustration?? on a college program with 18 year old kids playing?? wutev, you're gonna continue your negativity cuz well that's who you are.
 

I'll disregard your typical ad hominem attacks, which I'll simply attribute to your inability to frame a cogent argument "cuz well that's who [I am]."

So to follow your logic, if I wait until the date you propose -- May 16 -- to "bitch and complain about the program and it's future" and you agree that it is appropriate, I am transformed from someone who is "miserable in life" into a good fan with valid concerns.

You certainly get an A for logic with that post!
 
Hate to say it BUT without Harkless we are not very good next year. Another year of having no expectations. 
 

and you deduced this from what?? so even let's say if they got sampson, obekpa and a few others we would still not be very good?? how bout ya wait until after may 15th before you post nonsense about how good/bad the team will be...some of you on here are straight up ridiculous. uh yeah, we would be bad if harkless left and we had 5 players for next year, but that's not happening...we still have 2 months 2 sign guys....geez people are sooooo...i wish i could say things, however i'll abide by the site rules, but c'mon are people really this stupid on here???
 

I wish some folks would wait until mid-May before dooming and glooming. But, what else can you do? Some people continue to forget we were playing with 6 players throughout most of the year. Not just 6 players.... It was a very young six players. I doubt we'll see only six players playing a season from now.

I'm gonna wait to see who comes aboard between April and May to gather an idea how our outlook will be in '12-'13 (with or without Harkless). Hopefully, others will follow suit. 
 

Thats all I wish people would do. If come mid may and we have no one coming in than talk all the garbage you want, but these people just repeat the same thing about next year when we have no idea what to expect for next year yet...just want to knock some sense into them... 
 

Why do certain posters feel that they have the right to tell other posters when they can express their frustration? Even if we don't get Sampson or Obekpa, I'm sure a number of posters will be saying wait until next year. And if we struggle the year after, certain posters will say give it another year.

The last 12 months have been disasterous and the horizon does not look bright. Everybody is hanging their hats on the mystic of Lavin and a few tweets. Sorry -- but that does not give me confidence.
 

perhaps it's because you and the others continue to regurgitate the same things over and over again...I'm not here saying everyday that we have a great recruiting class coming in, all i'm saying is wait at least until may 16th before you bitch and complain about the program and it's future...what is so hard for you to comprehend such a simple request?? are you that miserable in life that this seems to be where you take out your frustration?? on a college program with 18 year old kids playing?? wutev, you're gonna continue your negativity cuz well that's who you are.
 

I'll disregard your typical ad hominem attacks, which I'll simply attribute to your inability to frame a cogent argument "cuz well that's who [I am]."

So to follow your logic, if I wait until the date you propose -- May 16 -- to "bitch and complain about the program and it's future" and you agree that it is appropriate, I am transformed from someone who is "miserable in life" into a good fan with valid concerns.

You certainly get an A for logic with that post!
 

no, i still think you'll be miserable in life, however, at least if you waited til then before you complained, you would have something to base it on. right now you are basing it on nothing but "if's" which is ridiculous. if the season started tomorrow, i would most definitely agree with you and your concerns, however the fact of the matter is...it doesn't... we are 7 months away from that and I am pretty sure we will have more commitments before then...again, I don't understand why you can't catch what I'm throwing at you. It's pretty simple thought and logic
 
no, i still think you'll be miserable in life, however, at least if you waited til then before you complained, you would have something to base it on. right now you are basing it on nothing but "if's" which is ridiculous. if the season started tomorrow, i would most definitely agree with you and your concerns, however the fact of the matter is...it doesn't... we are 7 months away from that and I am pretty sure we will have more commitments before then...again, I don't understand why you can't catch what I'm throwing at you. It's pretty simple thought and logic[/quote] 

Your argument is that anybody who doesn't share your rosy outlook is a troll who should be subject to your petty personal attacks and banned from the site. I will voice my concern at the time and in the manner I see fit. Once again, I'll provide you with a summary of the facts upon which my opinion is based.

In the past twelve months, the program has endured the following:

(1) Three kids have transferred out (Polee, Lindsey and Stith); (2) Three of our top recurits didn't qualify (one returned); (3) Our coach has not yet been able to return from cancer surgery; (4) Several of our top recruits have decommitted; (5) It is March and, aside from Branch, we have received a commitment from only one unheralded recruit; (6) all indications are that the kid who was far and away our best player this past year (no offense to D-Lo) will not be with the team next year; (7) there is a less than remote chance that arguably our third best player (Garrett) will not be with the team next year; and (8) official translators on Jonny Jungle have informed me that Obekpa's spirit is not with our program :(

Given the facts that I have recited, maybe it is I who should be telling you to refrain from posting your opinion until
May. Based on the current facts, my assessment of the program looks a hell of a lot more realistic than yours.
 
Hate to say it BUT without Harkless we are not very good next year. Another year of having no expectations. 
 

and you deduced this from what?? so even let's say if they got sampson, obekpa and a few others we would still not be very good?? how bout ya wait until after may 15th before you post nonsense about how good/bad the team will be...some of you on here are straight up ridiculous. uh yeah, we would be bad if harkless left and we had 5 players for next year, but that's not happening...we still have 2 months 2 sign guys....geez people are sooooo...i wish i could say things, however i'll abide by the site rules, but c'mon are people really this stupid on here???
 

I wish some folks would wait until mid-May before dooming and glooming. But, what else can you do? Some people continue to forget we were playing with 6 players throughout most of the year. Not just 6 players.... It was a very young six players. I doubt we'll see only six players playing a season from now.

I'm gonna wait to see who comes aboard between April and May to gather an idea how our outlook will be in '12-'13 (with or without Harkless). Hopefully, others will follow suit. 
 

Thats all I wish people would do. If come mid may and we have no one coming in than talk all the garbage you want, but these people just repeat the same thing about next year when we have no idea what to expect for next year yet...just want to knock some sense into them... 
 

Why do certain posters feel that they have the right to tell other posters when they can express their frustration? Even if we don't get Sampson or Obekpa, I'm sure a number of posters will be saying wait until next year. And if we struggle the year after, certain posters will say give it another year.

The last 12 months have been disasterous and the horizon does not look bright. Everybody is hanging their hats on the mystic of Lavin and a few tweets. Sorry -- but that does not give me confidence.
 

perhaps it's because you and the others continue to regurgitate the same things over and over again...I'm not here saying everyday that we have a great recruiting class coming in, all i'm saying is wait at least until may 16th before you bitch and complain about the program and it's future...what is so hard for you to comprehend such a simple request?? are you that miserable in life that this seems to be where you take out your frustration?? on a college program with 18 year old kids playing?? wutev, you're gonna continue your negativity cuz well that's who you are.
 

I'll disregard your typical ad hominem attacks, which I'll simply attribute to your inability to frame a cogent argument "cuz well that's who [I am]."

So to follow your logic, if I wait until the date you propose -- May 16 -- to "bitch and complain about the program and it's future" and you agree that it is appropriate, I am transformed from someone who is "miserable in life" into a good fan with valid concerns.

You certainly get an A for logic with that post!
 

no, i still think you'll be miserable in life, however, at least if you waited til then before you complained, you would have something to base it on. right now you are basing it on nothing but "if's" which is ridiculous. if the season started tomorrow, i would most definitely agree with you and your concerns, however the fact of the matter is...it doesn't... we are 7 months away from that and I am pretty sure we will have more commitments before then...again, I don't understand why you can't catch what I'm throwing at you. It's pretty simple thought and logic
 

No point in arguing with someone who gets his kicks by saying stuff he knows will annoy people.
 
If Harkless can go to the Lakers at 15, good luck to him. The money will be good, the infrastructure will be there, and he may even contribute some decent minutes as he develops. At 15 and the Lakers, I would advise him to go for it. If he projects in the middle of the first round, I would say take the money now - God knows you are one injury away from a "could have been a great one" 
 
Just stumbled upon this on twitter. pretty cool, its gonna be nice to have someone besides ron ron in the league to root for.

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