Rick’s Targets

AlBovino said:
I guess he is the only one who speculates on this site!
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For that speculation to be true, that means in order to take this job, Pitino, a HOF coach, had to agree to have his hands tied in that he could not select/keep/recruit players he might have wanted, not because of grades, conduct or ability but for the school to win a lawsuit (which they are going to wind up settling anyway which was the end game to begin with). Now we know he said he didn't want to leave NY but he did have other schools interested which could have led to a change of mind/heart.

So ask yourself, why would he agree to such a stipulation? Does that sound like something Pitino would agree to? Did he want the job the job so bad to relinquish that control when he could have stayed at Iona for another year with a very good team or kick the tires on other opportunities?
 
Amaseinyourface said:
Lol I think you’ve got the time.

For a funny a guy I thought you’d see the humor in speaking for everyone else before finishing by saying your can only speak for yourself.
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Fighting a lot of different fronts here which any military strategist will tell you is hard to do.
I have no problem with you Mase , always one of my favorite posters.
 
Rocket said:
You see lesser players. I see as good if not better players thus far.
If you do a player for player comparison, the only two players we haven't replaced yet are AJ Storr and David Jones. Both were very good front line offensive players. However, neither were defensive stoppers. Out of the next five commitments I think those two will be replaced with equally if not better talent.
Jenkins, Alleyne, Quinn, and even Sean Conway are equal if not better "basketball players" than Pinzon, Wusu, Stanley and Nyiwe.
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Everyone Pitino has signed is a better shooter than the players we had here.
 
Larry Wright said:
I watched those guys play and they are better than we got. In fact Clayton was best player on the team where we took everyone but him and honestly their 2nd best player IMO.

And again if you can’t judge by rankings and having seen them play, how exactly are we judging players? Their eye color, hair style? How do you rate players?
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I will judge by what Pitino himself says. Before last season started Pitino said that Slazinski was his best player. Then unfortunately he got injured. So, you say Clayton was Iona’s best player but Pitino felt otherwise prior to the start of the season and his injury.
 
billyfa said:
You are missing the point. It's one month, not months. Also, it's an incomplete project. We have 20 years of irrelevance, and we got arguably the best college coach of our lifetime. I think the critics can relax for a couple of months.
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Actually, that was exactly my point. We can’t point to a team that looks competitive in the Big East so all that can be said is Rick Pitino is great let’s keep our fingers crossed. He’s about to jump into back into big boy basketball for the first time in seven years. He is going to need some weapons.
 
Larry Wright said:
Here is the thing you would have to assume last year’s players would be better with Rick.

Center-Next year Soriano because he will be like 25 and have a coach.

PF- Would have like to see Jones and Stanley coached by Pitino. Haven’t really seen anything of Slazinski.
Edge last year.

SF- not a Wusu guy, but curious what would have happened with Pitino. Edge Alleyne.
Edge this year.

SG-I actually Davis but Storr under Pitino….
Never saw Conway except of the clip
Huge edge last year

PG- Posh never going to be a good shooter and not an athletic freak so….Not even a true PG. But Posh getting 12/6/4 and harassing the other teams Point like he did his first 2 years is way better than Jenkins and think we will see that if Posh goes to SH.
Edge last year.

Bench- not final obviously, but at this point
Huge edge last year.
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I would even suggest that Soriano is not a clear edge this year. He had an All Big East year last year and was healthy all year. No guarantee he’ll replicate that.
 
Rhythm said:
The building of the roster is not finished. The product on the floor will play fundamental basketball. That will be a huge improvement from last years team. Win or lose it will be leaps and bounds improvement on last years teams strategies. Watching the terrible defense and offense was frustrating and basically stupid!
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Has it gotten to this? Win or lose? If we get smacked around next year and say win 6, 7, or 8 games in the BE are we going to say, ‘sure we finished behind butler but did you see the fundamentals of those chest passes’? Or ‘we sure kept it close in the first half against Georgetown, we were really executing those strategies’.
 
Perhaps when you guys see an actual half-court offense, with sets, sideline out of bounds plays, ghost screens, pick and rolls, sets out of horns, you'll realize that a good coach is worth their weight in gold.

He's brought in 3 guys who know his system and what he is looking for, that helps with continuity off the bat when you're bringing in 10 overall pieces. He's bringing in older kids with high shooting percentages who he won't have to babysit and worry about their maturity issues. And most of all...there's still 5 open spots of which the staff obviously knows what the needs are so just chill and lets see how this plays out.

The order of which the kids come on the squad is IRRELEVANT! Everyone is so impatient and quick to call things a disaster when the staff have been on the job for less than a calendar month. How is this some people's mentality every hour? You want the splashes first to get excited I get it, but if they come in 2 weeks or 4 weeks, who cares as long as there are 13 guys in the first week of November? These 8 guys is not the final roster, you need two or three more bonafide starters. Something tells me Rick Pitino, Steve Masiello, Taliek Brown, Van Macon, Ricky Johns understand that.
 
SJUDave said:
Perhaps when you guys see an actual half-court offense, with sets, sideline out of bounds plays, ghost screens, pick and rolls, sets out of horns, you'll realize that a good coach is worth their weight in gold.

He's brought in 3 guys who know his system and what he is looking for, that helps with continuity off the bat when you're bringing in 10 overall pieces. He's bringing in older kids with high shooting percentages who he won't have to babysit and worry about their maturity issues. And most of all...there's still 5 open spots of which the staff obviously knows what the needs are so just chill and lets see how this plays out.

The order of which the kids come on the squad is IRRELEVANT! Everyone is so impatient and quick to call things a disaster when the staff have been on the job for less than a calendar month. How is this some people's mentality every hour? You want the splashes first to get excited I get it, but if they come in 2 weeks or 4 weeks, who cares as long as there are 13 guys in the first week of November? These 8 guys is not the final roster, you need two or three more bonafide starters. Something tells me Rick Pitino, Steve Masiello, Taliek Brown, Van Macon, Ricky Johns understand that.
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Could not agree more. We have had over 20 years of failure and ineptitude. Why so critical after 3 weeks?
 
SJUDave said:
Perhaps when you guys see an actual half-court offense, with sets, sideline out of bounds plays, ghost screens, pick and rolls, sets out of horns, you'll realize that a good coach is worth their weight in gold.

He's brought in 3 guys who know his system and what he is looking for, that helps with continuity off the bat when you're bringing in 10 overall pieces. He's bringing in older kids with high shooting percentages who he won't have to babysit and worry about their maturity issues. And most of all...there's still 5 open spots of which the staff obviously knows what the needs are so just chill and lets see how this plays out.

The order of which the kids come on the squad is IRRELEVANT! Everyone is so impatient and quick to call things a disaster when the staff have been on the job for less than a calendar month. How is this some people's mentality every hour? You want the splashes first to get excited I get it, but if they come in 2 weeks or 4 weeks, who cares as long as there are 13 guys in the first week of November? These 8 guys is not the final roster, you need two or three more bonafide starters. Something tells me Rick Pitino, Steve Masiello, Taliek Brown, Van Macon, Ricky Johns understand that.
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Donovan Mitchell isn’t walking through that door. Jamal Mashburn isn’t walking through that door, Ron Mercer isn’t walking through that door, Antoine Walker……
 
For all of those guys who keep saying we are only getting mid majors or Iona leftovers. I ask if last years Anderson team played Iona in a play in game last year, who do u think would win? I know SJ didn’t sniff the tournament but chose a play in game because it makes the game meaningful. Lose and go home. I think Iona easily wins.
 
Larry Wright said:
Donovan Mitchell isn’t walking through that door. Jamal Mashburn isn’t walking through that door, Ron Mercer isn’t walking through that door, Antoine Walker……
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Yea and none of those guys were who they were before Rick Pitino go his hands on them. So perhaps lets wait it out and see who the next guy in this lineage is before we flush the baby with the bathwater...7 months before the first game...
 
Boo Harvey said:
I would even suggest that Soriano is not a clear edge this year. He had an All Big East year last year and was healthy all year. No guarantee he’ll replicate that.
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So could we say the guys who left also wouldn’t be as good as they were last year?

I get your point, but no our center spot is not worse.
 
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