[quote="austour" post=398307][quote="Paul Massell" post=398281][quote="austour" post=398276][quote="redmen4life" post=398253][quote="Mike Zaun" post=398252]UCLA does not suck. They have a great coach in Cronin and they've been to Sweet 16 3x since 2013.[/quote]
since 2003, they've had 4 coaches.
their attendance has been brutal.
all that UA and donor money hasn't translated to consistent success....[/quote]
I understand you are holding UCLA to a far different standard than you would St Johns, but they've only missed 4 dances since Howland's 2nd year. Both Alford and Howland made the Sweet 16 or further 3 times.
Their lack of consistent success is exactly the kind of consistent success that most STJ fans would love to see.
PS only 3 coaches since 2003. 10 years with Howland, 6 years with Alford and now Cronin entering his 2nd.[/quote]
As true as that is, it is also true that UCLA has been a major disappointment to UCLA fans for decades and the ROI just isn't there. I do agree that Cronin was a great pick and I was surprised they went with him. But put in contrast to the resources and massive cash (and most favored nation status from the NCAA) put into the program and it is like buying a one-off Lamborghini and it drives like a really nice, factory Toyota Camry.[/quote]
Yeah, but you and I both know lots of UCLA alum/fans. They're delusional. They think it's still Sam Gilbert days over there. The only time UCLA was in a relatively bad place (relative to the last 30 years of STJ fandom) was the Farmer/Hazzard years. Though it could be said that had they not fired Lavin they might have gone back down there, and Alford, ever for his 3 Sweet 16s, really was neither a good fit nor good coach. But as I said, UCLA is held to a higher standard.[/quote]
The problem with UCLA is not that they've haven't had another Sam Gilbert since the Wooden days, it's that over the years every other top program got their own Sam Gilbert(s).