Reasonable Expectations for Steere

[quote="James Ray Lamb" post=368468]I've watched the "preparation" clip posted on Twitter several times. Steere is thinner than I expected. Definitely not a taller version of Earlington. I assumed Steere would have filled out by now and bulked up. His dad is huge. I'm still hoping Steere will be a good rebounder. Between Earlington and Steere we should routinely see team rebounds in the double digits.

Mike Anderson recruited Steere a couple years ago for Arkansas. Funny how things worked out.
[URL]https://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2017/may/24/recruiting-thursday-hog-bb-target-ian-steere/[/URL]
Highly recruited junior power forward Ian Steer talked about plans to visit Arkansas this summer on Recruiting Thursday.

He and assistant Scotty Thurman are trying to line up a June visit to Fayetteville. Steere is also talking to Coach Mike Anderson.

Steere, 6-9, 250 pounds of High Point (N.C.) Wesleyan Christian has more than 20 other scholarship offers from schools like Arkansas, Connecticut, Kansas, Missouri, Tennessee, Florida State and Georgia.
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Dude he’s huge :silly:
 
As to Ian's size--don't forget he gets half his genes from his mom which could be a reason he is not built up like his father.
As to playing versus practice another factor will be the referees and the fact that while practicing, he has not been having the same scrutiny any player gets from the refs. He will have to learn how he plays impacts calls on defense; is his move traveling, setting picks versus offensive fouls, etc. Expect the Least and hope for the Best.
 
[quote="BrooklynRed" post=368498]As to Ian's size--don't forget he gets half his genes from his mom which could be a reason he is not built up like his father.
As to playing versus practice another factor will be the referees and the fact that while practicing, he has not been having the same scrutiny any player gets from the refs. He will have to learn how he plays impacts calls on defense; is his move traveling, setting picks versus offensive fouls, etc. Expect the Least and hope for the Best.[/quote]

While not exactly the same, refs are routinely brought in to practice.
 
[quote="BrooklynRed" post=368498]As to Ian's size--don't forget he gets half his genes from his mom which could be a reason he is not built up like his father.
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He also isn’t on the same “supplements” as his dad.
 
[quote="James Ray Lamb" post=368468]I've watched the "preparation" clip posted on Twitter several times. Steere is thinner than I expected. Definitely not a taller version of Earlington. I assumed Steere would have filled out by now and bulked up. His dad is huge. I'm still hoping Steere will be a good rebounder. Between Earlington and Steere we should routinely see team rebounds in the double digits.

Mike Anderson recruited Steere a couple years ago for Arkansas. Funny how things worked out.
[URL]https://www.wholehogsports.com/news/2017/may/24/recruiting-thursday-hog-bb-target-ian-steere/[/URL]
Highly recruited junior power forward Ian Steer talked about plans to visit Arkansas this summer on Recruiting Thursday.

He and assistant Scotty Thurman are trying to line up a June visit to Fayetteville. Steere is also talking to Coach Mike Anderson.

Steere, 6-9, 250 pounds of High Point (N.C.) Wesleyan Christian has more than 20 other scholarship offers from schools like Arkansas, Connecticut, Kansas, Missouri, Tennessee, Florida State and Georgia.
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Not sure what clip you referring to. Ive seen him in person, he has huge arms and is a big dude. When heron hurt his ankle, he singlehandedly CARRIED him into the locker room
 
[quote="IDRAFT" post=366954]I think better than Keita (any Keita) is reasonable.[/quote]

I guess that was asking for too much.
 
Disappointed in Steere's lack of playing time regardless of his skill level. He's a big kid and I feel we could have used his size/5 fouls, at the very least, on Georgetown's big man yesterday.
 
[quote="ejoyce" post=375526]Disappointed in Steere's lack of playing time regardless of his skill level. He's a big kid and I feel we could have used his size/5 fouls, at the very least, on Georgetown's big man yesterday.[/quote]

Yeah. I think we all would have liked to see more out of him.
I feel bad for him. He came here to play for Mullin, sat out 2 semesters, and just doesn't seem to click with this staff and its vision.

It's not his fault, and it's not the staff's fault for giving him a shot, but I think both sides have already decided to go their separate ways in the spring.
 
I have to agree with this.

No matter how bad his play in practice, or his attitude, if he is on the roster and not suspended due to conduct not becoming, then his conduct can't be that bad. And, while he is probably not what we had hoped for, he IS a big body, maybe could have denied the ball a few times to the big guy on Georgetown or at least made him work harder for his points. He maybe could have also gotten a few of the rebounds that the Georgetown kid kept getting over the top (without fouling) our smaller guys.

Maybe coach does not like his game, and maybe he does not evidence the right attitude, but he's on the team and you have get something out of him, especially against one of the biggest guys in the league.

Perplexing. I guess we have to defer to coach's decision, but it just seems very strange.
 
[quote="redmanwest" post=375530]I have to agree with this.

No matter how bad his play in practice, or his attitude, if he is on the roster and not suspended due to conduct not becoming, then his conduct can't be that bad. And, while he is probably not what we had hoped for, he IS a big body, maybe could have denied the ball a few times to the big guy on Georgetown or at least made him work harder for his points. He maybe could have also gotten a few of the rebounds that the Georgetown kid kept getting over the top (without fouling) our smaller guys.

Maybe coach does not like his game, and maybe he does not evidence the right attitude, but he's on the team and you have get something out of him, especially against one of the biggest guys in the league.

Perplexing. I guess we have to defer to coach's decision, but it just seems very strange.[/quote]

I don't think it's all that strange. This coach rewards kids who buy into his system with playing time. If he throws minutes to a guy who hasn't bought into practicing the way everyone else has, then he destroys his own messaging to the rest of the team. What's the point in that? There's no need to play Steer unless we had 3 or 4 people foul out. No need to risk his health or give him minutes that other kids have worked harder for.
 
I generally agree with that, but this seems to be extreme to me. I don't think the kid is wholly without use/talent.
 
[quote="SJUFAN2" post=375533][quote="redmanwest" post=375530]I have to agree with this.

No matter how bad his play in practice, or his attitude, if he is on the roster and not suspended due to conduct not becoming, then his conduct can't be that bad. And, while he is probably not what we had hoped for, he IS a big body, maybe could have denied the ball a few times to the big guy on Georgetown or at least made him work harder for his points. He maybe could have also gotten a few of the rebounds that the Georgetown kid kept getting over the top (without fouling) our smaller guys.

Maybe coach does not like his game, and maybe he does not evidence the right attitude, but he's on the team and you have get something out of him, especially against one of the biggest guys in the league.

Perplexing. I guess we have to defer to coach's decision, but it just seems very strange.[/quote]

I don't think it's all that strange. This coach rewards kids who buy into his system with playing time. If he throws minutes to a guy who hasn't bought into practicing the way everyone else has, then he destroys his own messaging to the rest of the team. What's the point in that? There's no need to play Steer unless we had 3 or 4 people foul out. No need to risk his health or give him minutes that other kids have worked harder for.[/quote]

This debate is kind of besides the point. Roberts only played 11 minutes yesterday and Sears didn't play either. Absolutely perplexing when their whole offense was being run through Yurtseven. There is no way to explain it rationally. It was beyond obvious. Hard not to be concerned with the strategy even when supportive of MA and staff overall.
 
Roberts started the second half playing well with lots of energy. I do think coach is very reluctant to play him during the latter part of a game where we are in front due to his horrendous free throw shooting.
 
I understand why neither Roberts or Steere are on the floor for the majority of the game but that last possession when you know where they are going with the ball you need to put a big body or two on the floor. Steere also must have had some practice time against Yurtseven at NC State. Why not try something different defensively.
 
I agree w other posters. its not that we have great bigs. I would have loved to be able to evaluate him w more PT. Should have been given more of a chance. The obvious expectation is for him to transfer.
 
[quote="SJUFAN2" post=375533][quote="redmanwest" post=375530]I have to agree with this.

No matter how bad his play in practice, or his attitude, if he is on the roster and not suspended due to conduct not becoming, then his conduct can't be that bad. And, while he is probably not what we had hoped for, he IS a big body, maybe could have denied the ball a few times to the big guy on Georgetown or at least made him work harder for his points. He maybe could have also gotten a few of the rebounds that the Georgetown kid kept getting over the top (without fouling) our smaller guys.

Maybe coach does not like his game, and maybe he does not evidence the right attitude, but he's on the team and you have get something out of him, especially against one of the biggest guys in the league.

Perplexing. I guess we have to defer to coach's decision, but it just seems very strange.[/quote]

I don't think it's all that strange. This coach rewards kids who buy into his system with playing time. If he throws minutes to a guy who hasn't bought into practicing the way everyone else has, then he destroys his own messaging to the rest of the team. What's the point in that? There's no need to play Steer unless we had 3 or 4 people foul out. No need to risk his health or give him minutes that other kids have worked harder for.[/quote]

The quote "buy into his system" is right on the money. During TOs yesterday Steere hung around the outside of the huddle, not paying any attention with a disinterested look on his face. I think he's mentally checked out.
 
[quote="SJUNC" post=375544]I understand why neither Roberts or Steere are on the floor for the majority of the game but that last possession when you know where they are going with the ball you need to put a big body or two on the floor. Steere also must have had some practice time against Yurtseven at NC State. Why not try something different defensively.[/quote]

I get the desire to try something different, but if you are the coach and you aren't playing a guy because he doesn't buy into your program, how do you justify putting him out there with 1 min left to play? A- he's not in the flow of the game, B- he's not prepared to play. If he were practicing like everyone else, he'd be playing already, and C- How do you go back to Roberts, Champagnie, LG & Earlington and ask them to dig down deeper in the next practice or the next game after you gave the most critical minute of the game to a guy who isn't working as hard as they are every day?
 
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So we have 4 guys that coach has no need for (Caraher, Roberts, Steere, Seares ). That is they would not be in the rotation of any team in the BE). G'Town loses 3 players at the beginning of the year and has their best player come up injured. I know CMA did the best he could to fill in the roster but this is very sad. Get me to the end of this season.Please !
 
[quote="SJUFAN2" post=375553][quote="SJUNC" post=375544]I understand why neither Roberts or Steere are on the floor for the majority of the game but that last possession when you know where they are going with the ball you need to put a big body or two on the floor. Steere also must have had some practice time against Yurtseven at NC State. Why not try something different defensively.[/quote]

I get the desire to try something different, but if you are the coach and you aren't playing a guy because he doesn't buy into your program, how do you justify putting him out there with 1 min left to play? A- he's not in the flow of the game, B- he's not prepared to play. If he were practicing like everyone else, he'd be playing already, and C- How do you go back to Roberts, Champagnie, LG & Earlington and ask them to dig down deeper in the next practice or the next game after you gave the most critical minute of the game to a guy who isn't working as hard as they are every day?[/quote]

You are correct. Be honest folks. Steere goes in there and commits a dumb foul and Georgetown wins at the line, CMA would be getting destroyed here. And I would be right in on it.

Roberts is another thing.
 
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