Radical Islamist Terrorist Attacks

[mjmaherjr]

2 years ago almost to the day we were in turkey in what was easily the friendliest people from any country we have been in other than Ireland. Walked all over istanbul and goreme into dozens of mosques etc and talked with a lot of them who knew our religion and were more than welcoming. Stayed 2 nights in Goreme with a turkish family that we found as a b&b and they were so kind to us I actually was choked up the day we left

Ironically pertaining to this topic while in istanbul we were told about a hookah lounge near the grand bazaar in which we went back to almost every night because it's all community seating basically and we were meeting so many interesting people.

On our last night there we end up sitting with a Syrian family from Aleppo who had fled for what they thought would be only temporary and were staying with their son who lived in Istanbul. Spent hours talking to them about life in general and about our travels etc including israel etc. They spoke better english than a lot of my friends and the mom taught I think english or history or something like that to the kids in Aleppo and they knew more about the US than I think I did. Or at least the mom did.

As we were ready to leave we were getting up and were saying good bye the mom and the dad grab us to sit down for a few more minutes and without hesitation they both invited us to come stay with them in Aleppo when the problems died down ( again at the time they thought this would be temporary ). They didn't just invite us as in come to syria and we will show you around for a day or 2. They invited us to come stay at their home and be their guests as long as we wanted to stay and they would show us as much of their country as we wanted. They gave us their contact info and said whenever we want to go just let them know.

I have no doubt that family never went back to Aleppo since it got much worse after we left ( ironically being in turkey on thanksgiving ). Or at least I hope they didn't.

I go back and forth on this all the time and I want a wall built along the entire border of mexico even though I know that won't solve the problem and I do think resettling in the middle east countries should be the first option but for properly vetted families like I'm sure this family would have been I'm willing to extend the same hospitality to them that they would have to us and I'm fine with taking a limited number of properly vetted families as a last resort if other solutions can't be worked out

 

[beast of the east]

American dead in Mali Attack was there to help

When she was in her early 20s, Anita Datar spent two years in Africa, serving as a Peace Corps volunteer in Senegal.

She was on the continent again, this time in Mali, on Friday, when gunmen seized a luxury hotel and killed at least 20 people. Datar, a 41-year-old international development worker from Takoma Park, Md., is the only American known to have died in the attack. The U.S. ambassador to Mali called her family late Friday afternoon to inform them, Datar’s mother, Sunanda Datar, said in a brief phone call.

[At least 20 hostages dead in siege of hotel in Mali, official says]

“We are devastated that Anita is gone — it’s unbelievable to us that she has been killed in this senseless act of violence and terrorism,” her brother Sanjeev Datar said in a statement Friday night. “Anita was one of the kindest and most generous people we know. She loved her family and her work tremendously. Everything she did in her life she did to help others — as a mother, public health expert, daughter, sister and friend. And while we are angry and saddened that she has been killed, we know that she would want to promote education and healthcare to prevent violence and poverty at home and abroad, not intolerance.”

Datar, the mother of an elementary-school-age son, was a senior manager at Palladium, an international development firm with offices in Washington. She was particularly interested in public health, family planning and HIV, according to her LinkedIn profile.

Her Facebook page is filled with pictures of her young son, Rohan, who is shown smiling on his bike, dressing up for Halloween and mugging for the camera with his arm around his mom. “guess who wants to look at pictures of his first day of school,” Datar wrote beneath an Aug. 26, 2013, photo of Rohan. “See . . . your mom is always right . . .”


Datar served as a founding board member of Tulalens, a nonprofit group aimed at helping poor women in Chennai, India, make informed choices about where to seek health care.

She was a 1991 graduate of Mount Olive High School in Flanders, N.J., said Tara Elms Henderson, a high school classmate. She went on to Rutgers for her undergraduate degree and then attended Columbia University for a master’s in public health and a master’s in public administration.

Henderson knew from Facebook that her old friend had gone to Africa for work. When she heard the news of what had happened in Mali, she checked to see whether Datar might have been affected by it. Then Henderson learned, Datar was in Bamako, where the attack took place.

Henderson said she spent the day waiting, “expecting her to just post: ‘I’m okay. Don’t worry about me.’”

“I’m in shock,” Henderson said. “She’s always been such a kind soul, and she cared deeply about people, and her work obviously shows that.”

Maceo Thomas, a longtime friend who lives in the District, met Datar when both were serving in the Peace Corps in Senegal. She chased him down one day as he was leaving a volunteer center.

“She sprinted toward me — I was like, ‘Who is that?’ ” he remembered. “She thought I was Indian, and she was just happy to see another Indian there.”

Thomas is not Indian, but they often laughed about her mistaken impression and built a friendship around long conversations about race and social-justice issues.

“She is very, very serious about social-justice stuff,” Thomas said. “We talked a lot about race, about colorism, about Indian culture and their issues with color.

“She got very passionate in conversations.”

 

[Too_Funny]

Viewing something as acceptable and actually strapping yourself with a bomb are quite different.

You gotta be kidding me.

I don't want Syrian Muslims to think Isis is their only salvation. They live in the shi*iest part of the world if you ask me. Let the FBI, Homeland security, defense department vet them for 1 or 2 years and we take them in. We will look better doing that then having geniuses like Chris Christie seem threatened by 3 year-old toddlers

Living in the middle east is one of the most horrible places on earth to live. Ask the Christians who are getting slaughtered there. 100 years ago the middle east was nearly half Christian, and now they are just a tiny %, but getting hunted down like dogs. Isis has advance teams marking the doors of Christian homes so that armed terrorists can come in behind them and mow them down efficiently.

I understand your concern about driving refugees towards Isis. But I also feel strongly that unless we can sift refugees and separate extremists from those intent on peaceful refuge, then we are introducing danger to our people.

And unfortunately the middle east is going to get worst as the backlash of what continues to happen there and near there ...http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/w...-is-often-unsure-about-who-will-die.html?_r=0

Unfortunately, by and large the entire region is a wasteland of humanity. It should be turned into a nuclear bomb test ground so that we can start over there.

Is that an excerpt from Mein Kampf?

No it's an example how there are absolutely no solutions that will hold without tremendous loss of life. Too many people who live there are not interested in a peaceful coexistence, which is why Middle Eastern conflict will continue for generations to come.

Excellent I like your "final solution" ... Nuke em!

Tell me yours? Building bridges of understanding?

No no ... I think your plan is excellent ... but where do you start in the middle east ... Israel or Palestine?

I would begin with the 40% of Palestinians who think that suicide bombings killing civilians is justifiable, and do the same to all Israelis who feel the same way. You know, destroy those who are in favor of destroying innocent lives.

Sir Mr. Beast, you said you were looking to hear about other solutions ... well these Air Force boys have one for you:http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/20/exclusive_air_force_whistleblowers_risk_prosecution

 

[Too_Funny]

Viewing something as acceptable and actually strapping yourself with a bomb are quite different.

You gotta be kidding me.

I don't want Syrian Muslims to think Isis is their only salvation. They live in the shi*iest part of the world if you ask me. Let the FBI, Homeland security, defense department vet them for 1 or 2 years and we take them in. We will look better doing that then having geniuses like Chris Christie seem threatened by 3 year-old toddlers

Living in the middle east is one of the most horrible places on earth to live. Ask the Christians who are getting slaughtered there. 100 years ago the middle east was nearly half Christian, and now they are just a tiny %, but getting hunted down like dogs. Isis has advance teams marking the doors of Christian homes so that armed terrorists can come in behind them and mow them down efficiently.

I understand your concern about driving refugees towards Isis. But I also feel strongly that unless we can sift refugees and separate extremists from those intent on peaceful refuge, then we are introducing danger to our people.

And unfortunately the middle east is going to get worst as the backlash of what continues to happen there and near there ...http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/w...-is-often-unsure-about-who-will-die.html?_r=0

Unfortunately, by and large the entire region is a wasteland of humanity. It should be turned into a nuclear bomb test ground so that we can start over there.

Is that an excerpt from Mein Kampf?

No it's an example how there are absolutely no solutions that will hold without tremendous loss of life. Too many people who live there are not interested in a peaceful coexistence, which is why Middle Eastern conflict will continue for generations to come.

Excellent I like your "final solution" ... Nuke em!

Tell me yours? Building bridges of understanding?

No no ... I think your plan is excellent ... but where do you start in the middle east ... Israel or Palestine?

I would begin with the 40% of Palestinians who think that suicide bombings killing civilians is justifiable, and do the same to all Israelis who feel the same way. You know, destroy those who are in favor of destroying innocent lives.

So by your logic, if anyone is killing innocent people including through drone attacks ... we should destroy them right>

 

[beast of the east]

Viewing something as acceptable and actually strapping yourself with a bomb are quite different.

You gotta be kidding me.

I don't want Syrian Muslims to think Isis is their only salvation. They live in the shi*iest part of the world if you ask me. Let the FBI, Homeland security, defense department vet them for 1 or 2 years and we take them in. We will look better doing that then having geniuses like Chris Christie seem threatened by 3 year-old toddlers

Living in the middle east is one of the most horrible places on earth to live. Ask the Christians who are getting slaughtered there. 100 years ago the middle east was nearly half Christian, and now they are just a tiny %, but getting hunted down like dogs. Isis has advance teams marking the doors of Christian homes so that armed terrorists can come in behind them and mow them down efficiently.

I understand your concern about driving refugees towards Isis. But I also feel strongly that unless we can sift refugees and separate extremists from those intent on peaceful refuge, then we are introducing danger to our people.

And unfortunately the middle east is going to get worst as the backlash of what continues to happen there and near there ...http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/w...-is-often-unsure-about-who-will-die.html?_r=0

Unfortunately, by and large the entire region is a wasteland of humanity. It should be turned into a nuclear bomb test ground so that we can start over there.

Is that an excerpt from Mein Kampf?

No it's an example how there are absolutely no solutions that will hold without tremendous loss of life. Too many people who live there are not interested in a peaceful coexistence, which is why Middle Eastern conflict will continue for generations to come.

Excellent I like your "final solution" ... Nuke em!

Tell me yours? Building bridges of understanding?

No no ... I think your plan is excellent ... but where do you start in the middle east ... Israel or Palestine?

I would begin with the 40% of Palestinians who think that suicide bombings killing civilians is justifiable, and do the same to all Israelis who feel the same way. You know, destroy those who are in favor of destroying innocent lives.

Sir Mr. Beast, you said you were looking to hear about other solutions ... well these Air Force boys have one for you:http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/20/exclusive_air_force_whistleblowers_risk_prosecution

I'm not a big supporter of drone attacks if they put innocent civilian's lives at risk. I am in favor of killing every last Isis and Al-Qaeda maggot and those who would harbor them before they kill others. You appear to be an ISIS sympathizer, no? Any of our strikes target ISIS and Al Qaeda murderers - if there are any civilians casualties, those were not by design. Big Difference is ISIS and Al Qaeda target civilians.

 

[Too_Funny]

Viewing something as acceptable and actually strapping yourself with a bomb are quite different.

You gotta be kidding me.

I don't want Syrian Muslims to think Isis is their only salvation. They live in the shi*iest part of the world if you ask me. Let the FBI, Homeland security, defense department vet them for 1 or 2 years and we take them in. We will look better doing that then having geniuses like Chris Christie seem threatened by 3 year-old toddlers

Living in the middle east is one of the most horrible places on earth to live. Ask the Christians who are getting slaughtered there. 100 years ago the middle east was nearly half Christian, and now they are just a tiny %, but getting hunted down like dogs. Isis has advance teams marking the doors of Christian homes so that armed terrorists can come in behind them and mow them down efficiently.

I understand your concern about driving refugees towards Isis. But I also feel strongly that unless we can sift refugees and separate extremists from those intent on peaceful refuge, then we are introducing danger to our people.

And unfortunately the middle east is going to get worst as the backlash of what continues to happen there and near there ...http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/w...-is-often-unsure-about-who-will-die.html?_r=0

Unfortunately, by and large the entire region is a wasteland of humanity. It should be turned into a nuclear bomb test ground so that we can start over there.

Is that an excerpt from Mein Kampf?

No it's an example how there are absolutely no solutions that will hold without tremendous loss of life. Too many people who live there are not interested in a peaceful coexistence, which is why Middle Eastern conflict will continue for generations to come.

Excellent I like your "final solution" ... Nuke em!

Tell me yours? Building bridges of understanding?

No no ... I think your plan is excellent ... but where do you start in the middle east ... Israel or Palestine?

I would begin with the 40% of Palestinians who think that suicide bombings killing civilians is justifiable, and do the same to all Israelis who feel the same way. You know, destroy those who are in favor of destroying innocent lives.

Sir Mr. Beast, you said you were looking to hear about other solutions ... well these Air Force boys have one for you:http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/20/exclusive_air_force_whistleblowers_risk_prosecution

I'm not a big supporter of drone attacks if they put innocent civilian's lives at risk. I am in favor of killing every last Isis and Al-Qaeda maggot and those who would harbor them before they kill others. You appear to be an ISIS sympathizer, no? Any of our strikes target ISIS and Al Qaeda murderers - if there are any civilians casualties, those were not by design. Big Difference is ISIS and Al Qaeda target civilians.

they are by design ..,, listen to people who did it ..http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/20/exclusive_2_air_force_vets_speak

 

[beast of the east]

Viewing something as acceptable and actually strapping yourself with a bomb are quite different.

You gotta be kidding me.

I don't want Syrian Muslims to think Isis is their only salvation. They live in the shi*iest part of the world if you ask me. Let the FBI, Homeland security, defense department vet them for 1 or 2 years and we take them in. We will look better doing that then having geniuses like Chris Christie seem threatened by 3 year-old toddlers

Living in the middle east is one of the most horrible places on earth to live. Ask the Christians who are getting slaughtered there. 100 years ago the middle east was nearly half Christian, and now they are just a tiny %, but getting hunted down like dogs. Isis has advance teams marking the doors of Christian homes so that armed terrorists can come in behind them and mow them down efficiently.

I understand your concern about driving refugees towards Isis. But I also feel strongly that unless we can sift refugees and separate extremists from those intent on peaceful refuge, then we are introducing danger to our people.

And unfortunately the middle east is going to get worst as the backlash of what continues to happen there and near there ...http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/w...-is-often-unsure-about-who-will-die.html?_r=0

Unfortunately, by and large the entire region is a wasteland of humanity. It should be turned into a nuclear bomb test ground so that we can start over there.

Is that an excerpt from Mein Kampf?

No it's an example how there are absolutely no solutions that will hold without tremendous loss of life. Too many people who live there are not interested in a peaceful coexistence, which is why Middle Eastern conflict will continue for generations to come.

Excellent I like your "final solution" ... Nuke em!

Tell me yours? Building bridges of understanding?

No no ... I think your plan is excellent ... but where do you start in the middle east ... Israel or Palestine?

I would begin with the 40% of Palestinians who think that suicide bombings killing civilians is justifiable, and do the same to all Israelis who feel the same way. You know, destroy those who are in favor of destroying innocent lives.

Sir Mr. Beast, you said you were looking to hear about other solutions ... well these Air Force boys have one for you:http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/20/exclusive_air_force_whistleblowers_risk_prosecution

I'm not a big supporter of drone attacks if they put innocent civilian's lives at risk. I am in favor of killing every last Isis and Al-Qaeda maggot and those who would harbor them before they kill others. You appear to be an ISIS sympathizer, no? Any of our strikes target ISIS and Al Qaeda murderers - if there are any civilians casualties, those were not by design. Big Difference is ISIS and Al Qaeda target civilians.

they are by design ..,, listen to people who did it ..http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/20/exclusive_2_air_force_vets_speak

I am only responding to you because some will read your comments without reading the article. The airforce vet asked out because his job was to launch drone attacks based on coordinate directives given to him, and he was aware that there had been civilian casualties. He said that as a result he felt responsible for civilian deaths - not that he was instructed to kill civilians . That is a huge fundamental difference those ISIS and Al Qaeda subhumans who knowingly and joyously kill civilians in terrorist attacks.

The article compares this to Oppenheimer, an important developer of the atomic bomb, who never wanted it used once he became aware of what it was, but who felt responsibility.

 

[Too_Funny]

Viewing something as acceptable and actually strapping yourself with a bomb are quite different.

You gotta be kidding me.

I don't want Syrian Muslims to think Isis is their only salvation. They live in the shi*iest part of the world if you ask me. Let the FBI, Homeland security, defense department vet them for 1 or 2 years and we take them in. We will look better doing that then having geniuses like Chris Christie seem threatened by 3 year-old toddlers

Living in the middle east is one of the most horrible places on earth to live. Ask the Christians who are getting slaughtered there. 100 years ago the middle east was nearly half Christian, and now they are just a tiny %, but getting hunted down like dogs. Isis has advance teams marking the doors of Christian homes so that armed terrorists can come in behind them and mow them down efficiently.

I understand your concern about driving refugees towards Isis. But I also feel strongly that unless we can sift refugees and separate extremists from those intent on peaceful refuge, then we are introducing danger to our people.

And unfortunately the middle east is going to get worst as the backlash of what continues to happen there and near there ...http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/w...-is-often-unsure-about-who-will-die.html?_r=0

Unfortunately, by and large the entire region is a wasteland of humanity. It should be turned into a nuclear bomb test ground so that we can start over there.

Is that an excerpt from Mein Kampf?

No it's an example how there are absolutely no solutions that will hold without tremendous loss of life. Too many people who live there are not interested in a peaceful coexistence, which is why Middle Eastern conflict will continue for generations to come.

Excellent I like your "final solution" ... Nuke em!

Tell me yours? Building bridges of understanding?

No no ... I think your plan is excellent ... but where do you start in the middle east ... Israel or Palestine?

I would begin with the 40% of Palestinians who think that suicide bombings killing civilians is justifiable, and do the same to all Israelis who feel the same way. You know, destroy those who are in favor of destroying innocent lives.

Sir Mr. Beast, you said you were looking to hear about other solutions ... well these Air Force boys have one for you:http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/20/exclusive_air_force_whistleblowers_risk_prosecution

I'm not a big supporter of drone attacks if they put innocent civilian's lives at risk. I am in favor of killing every last Isis and Al-Qaeda maggot and those who would harbor them before they kill others. You appear to be an ISIS sympathizer, no? Any of our strikes target ISIS and Al Qaeda murderers - if there are any civilians casualties, those were not by design. Big Difference is ISIS and Al Qaeda target civilians.

they are by design ..,, listen to people who did it ..http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/20/exclusive_2_air_force_vets_speak

I am only responding to you because some will read your comments without reading the article. The airforce vet asked out because his job was to launch drone attacks based on coordinate directives given to him, and he was aware that there had been civilian casualties. He said that as a result he felt responsible for civilian deaths - not that he was instructed to kill civilians . That is a huge fundamental difference those ISIS and Al Qaeda subhumans who knowingly and joyously kill civilians in terrorist attacks.

The article compares this to Oppenheimer, an important developer of the atomic bomb, who never wanted it used once he became aware of what it was, but who felt responsibility.

Sir he says that tto strike anyone wearing white .. meaning who cares as you are saying about nuking ... or did you miss that? don't read the article listen to these young air force men ...

 

[beast of the east]

Viewing something as acceptable and actually strapping yourself with a bomb are quite different.

You gotta be kidding me.

I don't want Syrian Muslims to think Isis is their only salvation. They live in the shi*iest part of the world if you ask me. Let the FBI, Homeland security, defense department vet them for 1 or 2 years and we take them in. We will look better doing that then having geniuses like Chris Christie seem threatened by 3 year-old toddlers

Living in the middle east is one of the most horrible places on earth to live. Ask the Christians who are getting slaughtered there. 100 years ago the middle east was nearly half Christian, and now they are just a tiny %, but getting hunted down like dogs. Isis has advance teams marking the doors of Christian homes so that armed terrorists can come in behind them and mow them down efficiently.

I understand your concern about driving refugees towards Isis. But I also feel strongly that unless we can sift refugees and separate extremists from those intent on peaceful refuge, then we are introducing danger to our people.

And unfortunately the middle east is going to get worst as the backlash of what continues to happen there and near there ...http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/w...-is-often-unsure-about-who-will-die.html?_r=0

Unfortunately, by and large the entire region is a wasteland of humanity. It should be turned into a nuclear bomb test ground so that we can start over there.

Is that an excerpt from Mein Kampf?

No it's an example how there are absolutely no solutions that will hold without tremendous loss of life. Too many people who live there are not interested in a peaceful coexistence, which is why Middle Eastern conflict will continue for generations to come.

Excellent I like your "final solution" ... Nuke em!

Tell me yours? Building bridges of understanding?

No no ... I think your plan is excellent ... but where do you start in the middle east ... Israel or Palestine?

I would begin with the 40% of Palestinians who think that suicide bombings killing civilians is justifiable, and do the same to all Israelis who feel the same way. You know, destroy those who are in favor of destroying innocent lives.

Sir Mr. Beast, you said you were looking to hear about other solutions ... well these Air Force boys have one for you:http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/20/exclusive_air_force_whistleblowers_risk_prosecution

I'm not a big supporter of drone attacks if they put innocent civilian's lives at risk. I am in favor of killing every last Isis and Al-Qaeda maggot and those who would harbor them before they kill others. You appear to be an ISIS sympathizer, no? Any of our strikes target ISIS and Al Qaeda murderers - if there are any civilians casualties, those were not by design. Big Difference is ISIS and Al Qaeda target civilians.

they are by design ..,, listen to people who did it ..http://www.democracynow.org/2015/11/20/exclusive_2_air_force_vets_speak

I am only responding to you because some will read your comments without reading the article. The airforce vet asked out because his job was to launch drone attacks based on coordinate directives given to him, and he was aware that there had been civilian casualties. He said that as a result he felt responsible for civilian deaths - not that he was instructed to kill civilians . That is a huge fundamental difference those ISIS and Al Qaeda subhumans who knowingly and joyously kill civilians in terrorist attacks.

The article compares this to Oppenheimer, an important developer of the atomic bomb, who never wanted it used once he became aware of what it was, but who felt responsibility.

Sir he says that tto strike anyone wearing white .. meaning who cares as you are saying about nuking ... or did you miss that? don't read the article listen to these young air force men ...

Are you inferring that the ISIS terrorist attacks are somehow justifiable? It would seem that if you care about civilians in the middle east, you'd be pleased that the US is hunting down ISIS and Al Qaeda terrorists and have killed tens of thousands of them since those same terrorists are murdering their countrymen as well. Your posts read as someone with a vested interest, perhaps with origins in that region.

 

[bamafan]

As the article said these servicemen risk prosecution by an administration who acts like they champion civil rights but has done more to curtail them than any I can recall.

 

[Too_Funny]

Viewing something as acceptable and actually strapping yourself with a bomb are quite different.

You gotta be kidding me.

I don't want Syrian Muslims to think Isis is their only salvation. They live in the shi*iest part of the world if you ask me. Let the FBI, Homeland security, defense department vet them for 1 or 2 years and we take them in. We will look better doing that then having geniuses like Chris Christie seem threatened by 3 year-old toddlers

Living in the middle east is one of the most horrible places on earth to live. Ask the Christians who are getting slaughtered there. 100 years ago the middle east was nearly half Christian, and now they are just a tiny %, but getting hunted down like dogs. Isis has advance teams marking the doors of Christian homes so that armed terrorists can come in behind them and mow them down efficiently.

I understand your concern about driving refugees towards Isis. But I also feel strongly that unless we can sift refugees and separate extremists from those intent on peaceful refuge, then we are introducing danger to our people.

And unfortunately the middle east is going to get worst as the backlash of what continues to happen there and near there ...=0

Unfortunately, by and large the entire region is a wasteland of humanity. It should be turned into a nuclear bomb test ground so that we can start over there.

Is that an excerpt from Mein Kampf?

No it's an example how there are absolutely no solutions that will hold without tremendous loss of life. Too many people who live there are not interested in a peaceful coexistence, which is why Middle Eastern conflict will continue for generations to come.

Excellent I like your "final solution" ... Nuke em!

Tell me yours? Building bridges of understanding?

No no ... I think your plan is excellent ... but where do you start in the middle east ... Israel or Palestine?

I would begin with the 40% of Palestinians who think that suicide bombings killing civilians is justifiable, and do the same to all Israelis who feel the same way. You know, destroy those who are in favor of destroying innocent lives.

Sir Mr. Beast, you said you were looking to hear about other solutions ... well these Air Force boys have one for you:

I'm not a big supporter of drone attacks if they put innocent civilian's lives at risk. I am in favor of killing every last Isis and Al-Qaeda maggot and those who would harbor them before they kill others. You appear to be an ISIS sympathizer, no? Any of our strikes target ISIS and Al Qaeda murderers - if there are any civilians casualties, those were not by design. Big Difference is ISIS and Al Qaeda target civilians.

they are by design ..,, listen to people who did it ..

I am only responding to you because some will read your comments without reading the article. The airforce vet asked out because his job was to launch drone attacks based on coordinate directives given to him, and he was aware that there had been civilian casualties. He said that as a result he felt responsible for civilian deaths - not that he was instructed to kill civilians . That is a huge fundamental difference those ISIS and Al Qaeda subhumans who knowingly and joyously kill civilians in terrorist attacks.

The article compares this to Oppenheimer, an important developer of the atomic bomb, who never wanted it used once he became aware of what it was, but who felt responsibility.

Sir he says that tto strike anyone wearing white .. meaning who cares as you are saying about nuking ... or did you miss that? don't read the article listen to these young air force men ...

Are you inferring that the ISIS terrorist attacks are somehow justifiable? It would seem that if you care about civilians in the middle east, you'd be pleased that the US is hunting down ISIS and Al Qaeda terrorists and have killed tens of thousands of them since those same terrorists are murdering their countrymen as well. Your posts read as someone with a vested interest, perhaps with origins in that region.

Ah my beloved St. John's

Sir, this conversation has become mind numbingly underwhelming ... and allusion to that region reeks of sand "people" reference.

I am not inferring anything. I am categorically saying ISIS acts are a monstrosity to innocent people such as Nazi gassing, KKK lynching, Genocides of Native Americans and Bosnian Muslims, and believe it or not drone strikes as well. I don't not differentiate on atrocities perpetrated by anyone and prefer not to label entire people of a region as sub-human (well the Nazis thought the Jews were sub-human; and we used to think African American and Native Americans were). The 4 American Air Force members are not people of that "region" and they are not alone in their dissent. I present to you Professor Emeritus Noam Chomsky on the subject: ... and I must admit I am ironically influenced by a French intellectual named Michel Foucault .

 

[beast of the east]

Viewing something as acceptable and actually strapping yourself with a bomb are quite different.

You gotta be kidding me.

I don't want Syrian Muslims to think Isis is their only salvation. They live in the shi*iest part of the world if you ask me. Let the FBI, Homeland security, defense department vet them for 1 or 2 years and we take them in. We will look better doing that then having geniuses like Chris Christie seem threatened by 3 year-old toddlers

Living in the middle east is one of the most horrible places on earth to live. Ask the Christians who are getting slaughtered there. 100 years ago the middle east was nearly half Christian, and now they are just a tiny %, but getting hunted down like dogs. Isis has advance teams marking the doors of Christian homes so that armed terrorists can come in behind them and mow them down efficiently.

I understand your concern about driving refugees towards Isis. But I also feel strongly that unless we can sift refugees and separate extremists from those intent on peaceful refuge, then we are introducing danger to our people.

And unfortunately the middle east is going to get worst as the backlash of what continues to happen there and near there ...=0

Unfortunately, by and large the entire region is a wasteland of humanity. It should be turned into a nuclear bomb test ground so that we can start over there.

Is that an excerpt from Mein Kampf?

No it's an example how there are absolutely no solutions that will hold without tremendous loss of life. Too many people who live there are not interested in a peaceful coexistence, which is why Middle Eastern conflict will continue for generations to come.

Excellent I like your "final solution" ... Nuke em!

Tell me yours? Building bridges of understanding?

No no ... I think your plan is excellent ... but where do you start in the middle east ... Israel or Palestine?

I would begin with the 40% of Palestinians who think that suicide bombings killing civilians is justifiable, and do the same to all Israelis who feel the same way. You know, destroy those who are in favor of destroying innocent lives.

Sir Mr. Beast, you said you were looking to hear about other solutions ... well these Air Force boys have one for you:

I'm not a big supporter of drone attacks if they put innocent civilian's lives at risk. I am in favor of killing every last Isis and Al-Qaeda maggot and those who would harbor them before they kill others. You appear to be an ISIS sympathizer, no? Any of our strikes target ISIS and Al Qaeda murderers - if there are any civilians casualties, those were not by design. Big Difference is ISIS and Al Qaeda target civilians.

they are by design ..,, listen to people who did it ..

I am only responding to you because some will read your comments without reading the article. The airforce vet asked out because his job was to launch drone attacks based on coordinate directives given to him, and he was aware that there had been civilian casualties. He said that as a result he felt responsible for civilian deaths - not that he was instructed to kill civilians . That is a huge fundamental difference those ISIS and Al Qaeda subhumans who knowingly and joyously kill civilians in terrorist attacks.

The article compares this to Oppenheimer, an important developer of the atomic bomb, who never wanted it used once he became aware of what it was, but who felt responsibility.

Sir he says that tto strike anyone wearing white .. meaning who cares as you are saying about nuking ... or did you miss that? don't read the article listen to these young air force men ...

Are you inferring that the ISIS terrorist attacks are somehow justifiable? It would seem that if you care about civilians in the middle east, you'd be pleased that the US is hunting down ISIS and Al Qaeda terrorists and have killed tens of thousands of them since those same terrorists are murdering their countrymen as well. Your posts read as someone with a vested interest, perhaps with origins in that region.

Ah my beloved St. John's

Sir, this conversation has become mind numbingly underwhelming ... and allusion to that region reeks of sand "people" reference.

I am not inferring anything. I am categorically saying ISIS acts are a monstrosity to innocent people such as Nazi gassing, KKK lynching, Genocides of Native Americans and Bosnian Muslims, and believe it or not drone strikes as well. I don't not differentiate on atrocities perpetrated by anyone and prefer not to label entire people of a region as sub-human (well the Nazis thought the Jews were sub-human; and we used to think African American and Native Americans were). The 4 American Air Force members are not people of that "region" and they are not alone in their dissent. I present to you Professor Emeritus Noam Chomsky on the subject: ... and I must admit I am ironically influenced by a French intellectual named Michel Foucault .

Ah, the art of obfuscation and bending the truth. Did you learn it from reading Bin Laden speeches?

To clarify, I called any person(s) who would intentionally kill innocent civilians sub-human. Jews victimized by Nazi sub-humans did nothing to deserve their fate. ISIS, the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and Iran would say otherwise. Anyone who can justify acts of terrorism is subhuman. Anyone who declares that the US engages in acts of terrorism and that ISIS, Al Qaeda, and the Taliban are only acting in kind, are Un-American, and deserve the same fate as the terrorists themselves.

Your quoted story only has a hint of truth. You are aware of course that the cowards masquerading as terrorists will not stand up and fight a conventional war. You know that they cloak themselves as civilians, and surround their fortifications in civilian areas to protect themselves, sometimes using women as human shields, as the cowardly Bin Laden did in his final moments on earth before departing for hell.

The reality is that the White House has stopped our military (well, mine at least and maybe not yours) from bombing 75% of known ISIS strongholds because of fear of even a single civilian casualty. This is because Obama has declared that if a bombing should kill even a single innocent civilian, then we will not engage. This goes against internationally accepted behavior in wartime, when the greater good is always accepted when the enemy hides in heavily populated areas. This single action alone is preventing our military (again, mine and probably not yours) from decimating ISIS. But I'm sure you know this already. Twisting the truth for the weak minded appears to be a specialty of yours.

 

[Too_Funny]

Viewing something as acceptable and actually strapping yourself with a bomb are quite different.

You gotta be kidding me.

I don't want Syrian Muslims to think Isis is their only salvation. They live in the shi*iest part of the world if you ask me. Let the FBI, Homeland security, defense department vet them for 1 or 2 years and we take them in. We will look better doing that then having geniuses like Chris Christie seem threatened by 3 year-old toddlers

Living in the middle east is one of the most horrible places on earth to live. Ask the Christians who are getting slaughtered there. 100 years ago the middle east was nearly half Christian, and now they are just a tiny %, but getting hunted down like dogs. Isis has advance teams marking the doors of Christian homes so that armed terrorists can come in behind them and mow them down efficiently.

I understand your concern about driving refugees towards Isis. But I also feel strongly that unless we can sift refugees and separate extremists from those intent on peaceful refuge, then we are introducing danger to our people.

And unfortunately the middle east is going to get worst as the backlash of what continues to happen there and near there ...=0

Unfortunately, by and large the entire region is a wasteland of humanity. It should be turned into a nuclear bomb test ground so that we can start over there.

Is that an excerpt from Mein Kampf?

No it's an example how there are absolutely no solutions that will hold without tremendous loss of life. Too many people who live there are not interested in a peaceful coexistence, which is why Middle Eastern conflict will continue for generations to come.

Excellent I like your "final solution" ... Nuke em!

Tell me yours? Building bridges of understanding?

No no ... I think your plan is excellent ... but where do you start in the middle east ... Israel or Palestine?

I would begin with the 40% of Palestinians who think that suicide bombings killing civilians is justifiable, and do the same to all Israelis who feel the same way. You know, destroy those who are in favor of destroying innocent lives.

Sir Mr. Beast, you said you were looking to hear about other solutions ... well these Air Force boys have one for you:

I'm not a big supporter of drone attacks if they put innocent civilian's lives at risk. I am in favor of killing every last Isis and Al-Qaeda maggot and those who would harbor them before they kill others. You appear to be an ISIS sympathizer, no? Any of our strikes target ISIS and Al Qaeda murderers - if there are any civilians casualties, those were not by design. Big Difference is ISIS and Al Qaeda target civilians.

they are by design ..,, listen to people who did it ..

I am only responding to you because some will read your comments without reading the article. The airforce vet asked out because his job was to launch drone attacks based on coordinate directives given to him, and he was aware that there had been civilian casualties. He said that as a result he felt responsible for civilian deaths - not that he was instructed to kill civilians . That is a huge fundamental difference those ISIS and Al Qaeda subhumans who knowingly and joyously kill civilians in terrorist attacks.

The article compares this to Oppenheimer, an important developer of the atomic bomb, who never wanted it used once he became aware of what it was, but who felt responsibility.

Sir he says that tto strike anyone wearing white .. meaning who cares as you are saying about nuking ... or did you miss that? don't read the article listen to these young air force men ...

Are you inferring that the ISIS terrorist attacks are somehow justifiable? It would seem that if you care about civilians in the middle east, you'd be pleased that the US is hunting down ISIS and Al Qaeda terrorists and have killed tens of thousands of them since those same terrorists are murdering their countrymen as well. Your posts read as someone with a vested interest, perhaps with origins in that region.

Ah my beloved St. John's

Sir, this conversation has become mind numbingly underwhelming ... and allusion to that region reeks of sand "people" reference.

I am not inferring anything. I am categorically saying ISIS acts are a monstrosity to innocent people such as Nazi gassing, KKK lynching, Genocides of Native Americans and Bosnian Muslims, and believe it or not drone strikes as well. I don't not differentiate on atrocities perpetrated by anyone and prefer not to label entire people of a region as sub-human (well the Nazis thought the Jews were sub-human; and we used to think African American and Native Americans were). The 4 American Air Force members are not people of that "region" and they are not alone in their dissent. I present to you Professor Emeritus Noam Chomsky on the subject: ... and I must admit I am ironically influenced by a French intellectual named Michel Foucault .

Ah, the art of obfuscation and bending the truth. Did you learn it from reading Bin Laden speeches?

To clarify, I called any person(s) who would intentionally kill innocent civilians sub-human. Jews victimized by Nazi sub-humans did nothing to deserve their fate. ISIS, the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and Iran would say otherwise. Anyone who can justify acts of terrorism is subhuman. Anyone who declares that the US engages in acts of terrorism and that ISIS, Al Qaeda, and the Taliban are only acting in kind, are Un-American, and deserve the same fate as the terrorists themselves.

Your quoted story only has a hint of truth. You are aware of course that the cowards masquerading as terrorists will not stand up and fight a conventional war. You know that they cloak themselves as civilians, and surround their fortifications in civilian areas to protect themselves, sometimes using women as human shields, as the cowardly Bin Laden did in his final moments on earth before departing for hell.

The reality is that the White House has stopped our military (well, mine at least and maybe not yours) from bombing 75% of known ISIS strongholds because of fear of even a single civilian casualty. This is because Obama has declared that if a bombing should kill even a single innocent civilian, then we will not engage. This goes against internationally accepted behavior in wartime, when the greater good is always accepted when the enemy hides in heavily populated areas. This single action alone is preventing our military (again, mine and probably not yours) from decimating ISIS. But I'm sure you know this already. Twisting the truth for the weak minded appears to be a specialty of yours.

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Unfortunately, by and large the entire region is a wasteland of humanity. It should be turned into a nuclear bomb test ground so that we can start over there. "

Yes all those DELETED BY MODERATOR ... Case closed

 

[ohiofan]

Guys, this topic is difficult enough in the first place. Please stop the personal comments and arguments. If not, the thread will be locked.

 

[mkras99]

Current process for Syrian refugees to enter the US:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...t-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

 

[austour]

Looks just like an ISIS job application, no? Alternatively ISIS could just send their members to the US on fake passports and tourist visas but maybe that would be too easy? ISIS likes the 2-3 year waitlist. It makes them hungrier. :roll:

 

[beast of the east]

Current process for Syrian refugees to enter the US:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...t-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

Isn't the main problem that there is so little information available to validate these refugees in the first place?

I would also offer that there must be a plan to take find them employment in the US. In many places throughout Europe unemployment among Muslims is sky high, which has created the kid of hostility among young men that drives them to ISIS. It's not just taking 50,000 vetted refugees, it's having them assimilate into our culture and find jobs.

 

[thetux1]

Current process for Syrian refugees to enter the US:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...t-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

Isn't the main problem that there is so little information available to validate these refugees in the first place?

I would also offer that there must be a plan to take find them employment in the US. In many places throughout Europe unemployment among Muslims is sky high, which has created the kid of hostility among young men that drives them to ISIS. It's not just taking 50,000 vetted refugees, it's having them assimilate into our culture and find jobs.

Of course they can't be 100% accurately vetted, geez they could become radicalized during the process. We can't even afford to properly take care of our veterans so why is anyone so desperate to take these refugees that would cost us close to a billion and could possibly be a security risk. What's in it for us?

 

[beast of the east]

Current process for Syrian refugees to enter the US:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...t-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

Isn't the main problem that there is so little information available to validate these refugees in the first place?

I would also offer that there must be a plan to take find them employment in the US. In many places throughout Europe unemployment among Muslims is sky high, which has created the kid of hostility among young men that drives them to ISIS. It's not just taking 50,000 vetted refugees, it's having them assimilate into our culture and find jobs.

Of course they can't be 100% accurately vetted, geez they could become radicalized during the process. We can't even afford to properly take care of our veterans so why is anyone so desperate to take these refugees that would cost us close to a billion and could possibly be a security risk. What's in it for us?

Don't worry about cost. Wall Street will pay for it, right after they pay for college education for all.

 

[austour]

I may not be a Christian but I do believe it you broke it you should fix it. World Police, F Yeah, World Relief F No?