(PRE-GAME) Georgetown (MSG), Sun. Jan. 27, NOON, FOX / 570AM

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[quote="Paultzman" post=316702][quote="Beast of the East" post=316700][quote="Paultzman" post=316698]Big team with ever improving young guards v our undersized, talented squared. I’ll go with Johnnies at home.

If one stands back objectively & looks at SJU performances to date inconsistency is legitimate concern. I only recall three or four A game performances thus far & it seems time for another before the three challenging road games around the corner.[/quote]

The question isn't are they good, it's are they good enough[/quote]
Quite possibly not.[/quote]

Agreed. It's why you have to play the games.
 
[quote="Class of 72" post=316709][quote="Paultzman" post=316698]Big team with ever improving young guards v our undersized, talented squared. I’ll go with Johnnies at home.

If one stands back objectively & looks at SJU performances to date inconsistency is legitimate concern. I only recall three or four A game performances thus far & it seems time for another before the three challenging road games around the corner.[/quote]

This is absolutely a must win game to avoid what could be a season changing losing streak. I'm not sure getting just 4 or 5 points from the combination of Keita, Williams and Trimble off the bench will be enough to offset any possible bad games by any of the starters. We will need some creative coaching and key substitutions.[/quote]

Well its a must win because it's an important opportunity to sweep their first series. This will not be easy. I'd rather be playing them in CA.

The toughest one to swallow rn is getting whipped at home to depaul. That will hurt if we don't return the favor.
 
We have a very talented starting 5 that have been woefully inconsistent game to game and are a team with 1 big guy, coming off injury, and a very shallow bench beyond him—all of which has been exacerbated by Ponds’ bad back and 1 game stolen by the ref.
The way I see it, it’s time for some ‘good’ luck, ‘good’ calls, bounces, and better team cohesion to go our way the balance of the season.
Let’s go St. John’s.
 
[quote="fuchsia" post=316713]My unschooled sense is that our offense was at its best with Figgy slashing in and out of a high post position, posing a quick basket threat to opposing bigs and opening driving and passing lanes for Ponds to exploit as the maestro. Would appreciate feedback on whether this has any validity or is just misobservation by someone whose formal training was coaching football.[/quote]. Liked your post . I too, thought Figgy was in great position at the top of the key or inside the free throw line to turn and put up his ever so slick floater . He rarely misses a floater . He needs more touches on offense and playing him in the middle gets him that and closer to the basket than burying him on the Wing . He has to go too far from there to slash at his most effective level . Plus , he also is then in position for put backs . We need Figgy because he is effective going to the offensive glass. From the Wing , he doesn’t see the ball enough . Heron has been getting way more touches than Figgy and that hurts our scoring more . I also like Clark shooting from the middle for 3 pointers rather than from Side Court . It’s a better percentage shot from the middle .
 
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[quote="Chicago Days" post=316738]We have a very talented starting 5 that have been woefully inconsistent game to game and are a team with 1 big guy, coming off injury, and a very shallow bench beyond him—all of which has been exacerbated by Ponds’ bad back and 1 game stolen by the ref.
The way I see it, it’s time for some ‘good’ luck, ‘good’ calls, bounces, and better team cohesion to go our way the balance of the season.
Let’s go St. John’s.[/quote]

They need to run off 4-5 in a row at some point. This win a few, lose a few, win 1 and then lose 1 trend needs to be reversed. If this is going to be the type of team we all hoped it would be let alone had to sit thru 2 last place teams in the last 3 years then that run needs to start soon.
 
SJU season has been defined by team's ability to go on big runs. Against Marquette, Georgia Tech, Creighton and some others. the guys used their quick hands and athleticism to turn close games into blowouts or comfortable wins. Those runs often included a lot of fast breaks with alley opp dunks to get the crowd going. We need to apply defensive pressure and turn them over. I don't like us in back and forth wars of attrition. That leaves the game up to the refs and an unlucky bounce. Plus not even Ponds tearing it up from the foul line. Akinjo and Mcclung are talented but inexperienced and small. Make them defend all game. Get them in foul trouble. That means ISOs for Heron and Ponds and driving the ball.
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=316738]We have a very talented starting 5 that have been woefully inconsistent game to game and are a team with 1 big guy, coming off injury, and a very shallow bench beyond him—all of which has been exacerbated by Ponds’ bad back and 1 game stolen by the ref.
The way I see it, it’s time for some ‘good’ luck, ‘good’ calls, bounces, and better team cohesion to go our way the balance of the season.
Let’s go St. John’s.[/quote]. If they are very talented , shouldn’t they be more consistent ? I think some of the poorer games are the result that everyone deserves equal chances with the Ball and scoring . I’m not sure that’s workable for this group . To me , Ponds is more equal . Should Simon be getting 12-15 shots a game? Or , Clark ? I think Figgy needs to be more involved in the offense . He’s open a lot and often doesn’t get the Ball .
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=316727][quote="Class of 72" post=316709][quote="Paultzman" post=316698]Big team with ever improving young guards v our undersized, talented squared. I’ll go with Johnnies at home.

If one stands back objectively & looks at SJU performances to date inconsistency is legitimate concern. I only recall three or four A game performances thus far & it seems time for another before the three challenging road games around the corner.[/quote]

This is absolutely a must win game to avoid what could be a season changing losing streak. I'm not sure getting just 4 or 5 points from the combination of Keita, Williams and Trimble off the bench will be enough to offset any possible bad games by any of the starters. We will need some creative coaching and key substitutions.[/quote]

Well its a must win because it's an important opportunity to sweep their first series. This will not be easy. I'd rather be playing them in CA.

The toughest one to swallow rn is getting whipped at home to depaul. That will hurt if we don't return the favor.[/quote]

It's a must win because of the following 3 games.
If they go 2-2 that would be good.
1-3 and they'll be on life support.
0-4 dead
 
I'm expecting a nice crowd. Go and root like hell and avoid my Bronx Pale Ale line
 
I'm also expecting Clark to point to section 114 after he nails his 4th 3 of the game
 
[quote="SLYFOXX1968" post=316745][quote="Chicago Days" post=316738]We have a very talented starting 5 that have been woefully inconsistent game to game and are a team with 1 big guy, coming off injury, and a very shallow bench beyond him—all of which has been exacerbated by Ponds’ bad back and 1 game stolen by the ref.
The way I see it, it’s time for some ‘good’ luck, ‘good’ calls, bounces, and better team cohesion to go our way the balance of the season.
Let’s go St. John’s.[/quote]. If they are very talented , shouldn’t they be more consistent ? I think some of the poorer games are the result that everyone deserves equal chances with the Ball and scoring . I’m not sure that’s workable for this group . To me , Ponds is more equal . Should Simon be getting 12-15 shots a game? Or , Clark ? I think Figgy needs to be more involved in the offense . He’s open a lot and often doesn’t get the Ball .[/quote]

Good points, but I don't think it's necessarily contradictory to be 'very talented' and also 'woefully inconsistent' when 3 of the Top 6 are new additions in live game action (1 still healing from a knee injury), the bench is very thin, and they're learning each other's tendencies.
I'm hoping that a healthy Ponds, improved teamwork, and some 'good' luck can revive the team for this 11 game 'drive'.
 
You hit the nail on the head inconsistency along with unable yo contain a quality big man. Hope they are on their game
 
[quote="fuchsia" post=316713]My unschooled sense is that our offense was at its best with Figgy slashing in and out of a high post position, posing a quick basket threat to opposing bigs and opening driving and passing lanes for Ponds to exploit as the maestro. Would appreciate feedback on whether this has any validity or is just misobservation by someone whose formal training was coaching football.[/quote]



Figueroa is deadly inside the foul line with his easy push shot, probably the best finisher we have.
 
[quote="oldschool Redmen" post=316747][quote="Beast of the East" post=316727][quote="Class of 72" post=316709][quote="Paultzman" post=316698]Big team with ever improving young guards v our undersized, talented squared. I’ll go with Johnnies at home.

If one stands back objectively & looks at SJU performances to date inconsistency is legitimate concern. I only recall three or four A game performances thus far & it seems time for another before the three challenging road games around the corner.[/quote]

This is absolutely a must win game to avoid what could be a season changing losing streak. I'm not sure getting just 4 or 5 points from the combination of Keita, Williams and Trimble off the bench will be enough to offset any possible bad games by any of the starters. We will need some creative coaching and key substitutions.[/quote]

Well its a must win because it's an important opportunity to sweep their first series. This will not be easy. I'd rather be playing them in CA.

The toughest one to swallow rn is getting whipped at home to depaul. That will hurt if we don't return the favor.[/quote]

It's a must win because of the following 3 games.
If they go 2-2 that would be good.
1-3 and they'll be on life support.
0-4 dead[/quote]

I look at the season as 9 home and homes. Right now we have 3 opportunities to sweep, 4 to be swept. The real pressure games are beating seton hall at home, villanova at home and butler at home. Logic dictates we win two of those 3. The away games at marquette and Creighton are chances to steal a series. The real must win at this point is beating dePaul away, since a sweep by them hurts us immensely.
 
Have to win all home games. The balance of the league makes a decent win streak unlikely and the size of DePaul and Xavier, perceived as the bottom teams make them a bad match up for SJU.
 
Since Ponds and Figgy are our best finishers and smartest players. Arguably our two best players. Realizing Georgetown’s size, what about starting Keita instead of Simon. Have Keita in there for size, defense and rebounding. On offense have Keita in the post, have Clark and Heron outside to shoot threes but put the ball in Ponds hands and Figgy’s hands and let them drive the lane and make decisions on going to rim or kicking it out to Clark or Heron. Just put the ball in Ponds and Figgy’s hands and tell them to go to work since they are our best decision makers.
 
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[quote="Jack Williams" post=316694][quote="Mike Zaun" post=316479]Mully will have em ready, will never be in doubt. Johnnies by 1000 easy W![/quote]

Zaun, I gotta ask. Clearly this is sarcasm because you are upset the board does not like your negative posts. But do you really believe this board has an agenda against being negative, or are people just against posters being over the top negative?

Cause I've seen your work on holyland. It is not exactly well received over there either... is that site biased against negativity too? I am not even denying that maybe you have not always gotten a fair shake on here, but you do realize a lot of it has to do with the nature of your posts, right?

You have to see that. And listen I am not saying there is anything wrong with being a little over the top sometimes, being a fan is an emotional thing and you come on here to vent and that is fine by me. You can be over the top and emotional all you want, but just be self aware of it, and don't just come at the entire culture of this great forum just because your posts are not always well received.

When you got banned or demoted or whatever, mostly everyone questioned why, we wanted you back on here. If there was a really agenda against negative posters no one would have rallied around you getting brought back. I am just trying to give some perspective.[/quote]
Once again, Jack, where did you come from. Since high school you have been posting well thought out and extremely well written posts. Writing is something most don’t develop at an early age. You seem to have been born with it. Color me impressed.

Mike Z. . . This is more a comment on the quality of Jack’s posts although I think his basic premise is true. By the way, you also write very well, although could be more concise (LOL). That said, I know you are a great, albeit frustrated fan.
 
[quote="Section3" post=316785][quote="Jack Williams" post=316694][quote="Mike Zaun" post=316479]Mully will have em ready, will never be in doubt. Johnnies by 1000 easy W![/quote]

Zaun, I gotta ask. Clearly this is sarcasm because you are upset the board does not like your negative posts. But do you really believe this board has an agenda against being negative, or are people just against posters being over the top negative?

Cause I've seen your work on holyland. It is not exactly well received over there either... is that site biased against negativity too? I am not even denying that maybe you have not always gotten a fair shake on here, but you do realize a lot of it has to do with the nature of your posts, right?

You have to see that. And listen I am not saying there is anything wrong with being a little over the top sometimes, being a fan is an emotional thing and you come on here to vent and that is fine by me. You can be over the top and emotional all you want, but just be self aware of it, and don't just come at the entire culture of this great forum just because your posts are not always well received.

When you got banned or demoted or whatever, mostly everyone questioned why, we wanted you back on here. If there was a really agenda against negative posters no one would have rallied around you getting brought back. I am just trying to give some perspective.[/quote]
Once again, Jack, where did you come from. Since high school you have been posting well thought out and extremely well written posts. Writing is something most don’t develop at an early age. You seem to have been born with it. Color me impressed.

Mike Z. . . This is more a comment on the quality of Jack’s posts although I think his basic premise is true. By the way, you also write very well, although could be more concise (LOL). That said, I know you are a great, albeit frustrated fan.[/quote]

Frustrated fan describes me best. Of course I still care a lot and I still want to see our guys breakthrough and make the tourney under Mullin. I wouldn't have scouted out 3 or 4 sports bars near the Garden with my friend on a random Sunday and pay out of our own pockets to have the meetup before the Nova game if I didn't!
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=316775][quote="oldschool Redmen" post=316747][quote="Beast of the East" post=316727][quote="Class of 72" post=316709][quote="Paultzman" post=316698]Big team with ever improving young guards v our undersized, talented squared. I’ll go with Johnnies at home.

If one stands back objectively & looks at SJU performances to date inconsistency is legitimate concern. I only recall three or four A game performances thus far & it seems time for another before the three challenging road games around the corner.[/quote]

This is absolutely a must win game to avoid what could be a season changing losing streak. I'm not sure getting just 4 or 5 points from the combination of Keita, Williams and Trimble off the bench will be enough to offset any possible bad games by any of the starters. We will need some creative coaching and key substitutions.[/quote]

Well its a must win because it's an important opportunity to sweep their first series. This will not be easy. I'd rather be playing them in CA.

The toughest one to swallow rn is getting whipped at home to depaul. That will hurt if we don't return the favor.[/quote]

It's a must win because of the following 3 games.
If they go 2-2 that would be good.
1-3 and they'll be on life support.
0-4 dead[/quote]

I look at the season as 9 home and homes. Right now we have 3 opportunities to sweep, 4 to be swept. The real pressure games are beating seton hall at home, villanova at home and butler at home. Logic dictates we win two of those 3. The away games at marquette and Creighton are chances to steal a series. The real must win at this point is beating dePaul away, since a sweep by them hurts us immensely.[/quote]

We're losing at Duke, we'll probaby go 1-1 at Creighton and Marquetter.
That's 4-5 15-7.
So you don't think G-Town is a must win? You're kidding yourself then.
4-6 is a big hole to get out of.
 
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[quote="fuchsia" post=316713]My unschooled sense is that our offense was at its best with Figgy slashing in and out of a high post position, posing a quick basket threat to opposing bigs and opening driving and passing lanes for Ponds to exploit as the maestro. Would appreciate feedback on whether this has any validity or is just misobservation by someone whose formal training was coaching football.[/quote]
Figgy definitely needs to be more involved. They forget about him
 
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