(PRE-GAME) @Duke, Sat. Feb. 2, Noon, ESPN / 570AM
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[quote="Paultzman" post=318998]Not sure why, but strongly sense the series with Duke willl not be renewed.[/quote]
Let's get their rival north Carolina to play at the garden
would love to a new home and series with Kansas or Michigan state
Let's get their rival north Carolina to play at the garden
would love to a new home and series with Kansas or Michigan state
[quote="Marillac" post=318919]Go for the jugular.
If they can avoId foul trouble, they can win. I'd deliver a nice tomahawk chop to Tre Jones' right shoulder early.
Hopefully Zion wants to play on the perimeter.[/quote]
Is that before or after Zion trips and crashes in to Shamorie's lower back?
If they can avoId foul trouble, they can win. I'd deliver a nice tomahawk chop to Tre Jones' right shoulder early.
Hopefully Zion wants to play on the perimeter.[/quote]
Is that before or after Zion trips and crashes in to Shamorie's lower back?
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[quote="fuchsia" post=319012][quote="Marillac" post=318919]Go for the jugular.
If they can avoId foul trouble, they can win. I'd deliver a nice tomahawk chop to Tre Jones' right shoulder early.
Hopefully Zion wants to play on the perimeter.[/quote]
Is that before or after Zion trips and crashes in to Shamorie's lower back?[/quote]
That would be a Knick / ST John's fan's worst nightmare
If they can avoId foul trouble, they can win. I'd deliver a nice tomahawk chop to Tre Jones' right shoulder early.
Hopefully Zion wants to play on the perimeter.[/quote]
Is that before or after Zion trips and crashes in to Shamorie's lower back?[/quote]
That would be a Knick / ST John's fan's worst nightmare
[quote="Paultzman" post=318946]To Marillac’s “delight”
Justin Simon (migraine) said he'll be fine for Saturday[/quote]
A question about Simon, why doesn't he play to his strengths? They are leaving him open on the arc for a reason, why not when he catches that steps in for a higher percentage shot, or penetrate and dish? He doesn't have to shoot it because he's open. Would you say he has the green light to shoot it if open?
Justin Simon (migraine) said he'll be fine for Saturday[/quote]
A question about Simon, why doesn't he play to his strengths? They are leaving him open on the arc for a reason, why not when he catches that steps in for a higher percentage shot, or penetrate and dish? He doesn't have to shoot it because he's open. Would you say he has the green light to shoot it if open?
[quote="Paul Massell" post=319000][quote="MCNPA" post=318994]Nothing to lose in this game, but a LOT could be gained by winning. Hope the kids go out and play like we are capable. Push Duke out to the perimeter. Don’t let them score inside. Make them shoot themselves out of the game. A win could really boost our resume’ and make it more likely to be tourney bound for sure. Time for our guys to give their best.[/quote]
We are one of the few teams that could have an advantage against them on transition defense. The question is however, Who is going to take a charge from ZW and is it even worth it?[/quote]
Poor Trimble getting caught in our “Always switch D” guarding Zion;
https://twitter.com/rex_rexchapman/status/1090084836340043776?s=21
We are one of the few teams that could have an advantage against them on transition defense. The question is however, Who is going to take a charge from ZW and is it even worth it?[/quote]
Poor Trimble getting caught in our “Always switch D” guarding Zion;
https://twitter.com/rex_rexchapman/status/1090084836340043776?s=21
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[quote="Redman#13" post=319014][quote="Paultzman" post=318946]To Marillac’s “delight”
Justin Simon (migraine) said he'll be fine for Saturday[/quote]
A question about Simon, why doesn't he play to his strengths? They are leaving him open on the arc for a reason, why not when he catches that steps in for a higher percentage shot, or penetrate and dish? He doesn't have to shoot it because he's open. Would you say he has the green light to shoot it if open?[/quote]
He annoyed me against Gtown game and has the worst looking jumper of all time. Last year though he did make them. I noticed the difference seems to be last year he recognized he was wide open and he took his time. This year seems to be rushing the shot even though he is even wider open. Tough to say with his form but that seems to be the biggest difference. Probably confidence thing. He is one of our best 5 players and is going to play so he will have to take that shot, but needs to pick his spots a little better.
Justin Simon (migraine) said he'll be fine for Saturday[/quote]
A question about Simon, why doesn't he play to his strengths? They are leaving him open on the arc for a reason, why not when he catches that steps in for a higher percentage shot, or penetrate and dish? He doesn't have to shoot it because he's open. Would you say he has the green light to shoot it if open?[/quote]
He annoyed me against Gtown game and has the worst looking jumper of all time. Last year though he did make them. I noticed the difference seems to be last year he recognized he was wide open and he took his time. This year seems to be rushing the shot even though he is even wider open. Tough to say with his form but that seems to be the biggest difference. Probably confidence thing. He is one of our best 5 players and is going to play so he will have to take that shot, but needs to pick his spots a little better.
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[quote="Paultzman" post=318998]Not sure why, but strongly sense the series with Duke willl not be renewed.[/quote] You think w Cragg the series would continue. But one can argue they have a lot more to loose ,by loosing to us, then they gain by beating us, like Syracuse. Of course both teams have the advantage of having a true home court advantage and a big crowd at MSG.
[quote="Redman#13" post=319014][quote="Paultzman" post=318946]To Marillac’s “delight”
Justin Simon (migraine) said he'll be fine for Saturday[/quote]
A question about Simon, why doesn't he play to his strengths? They are leaving him open on the arc for a reason, why not when he catches that steps in for a higher percentage shot, or penetrate and dish? He doesn't have to shoot it because he's open. Would you say he has the green light to shoot it if open?[/quote]
Simon gets a lot of knocks he doesn't deserve but part of this is based upon the reality that he hits lower percentage shots at a better rate than the high percentage shots. I'd wager that his three point shooting is better than his shots from 5 ft and in. How as a coach do you tell a player not to take a 3 footer especially when that player is shooting around 50% ?
If it were me, my message would be: dunk the ball. Second option: dunk the ball. Screw the Shamorie Ponds finesse shots. Those are for Ponds, not you. Take those million dollar moves and freakish athletic ability that got you to the basket and make sure you finish. No better way than with a dunk. If you don't want to dunk - kick it out like Coach Redman#13 said.
Justin Simon (migraine) said he'll be fine for Saturday[/quote]
A question about Simon, why doesn't he play to his strengths? They are leaving him open on the arc for a reason, why not when he catches that steps in for a higher percentage shot, or penetrate and dish? He doesn't have to shoot it because he's open. Would you say he has the green light to shoot it if open?[/quote]
Simon gets a lot of knocks he doesn't deserve but part of this is based upon the reality that he hits lower percentage shots at a better rate than the high percentage shots. I'd wager that his three point shooting is better than his shots from 5 ft and in. How as a coach do you tell a player not to take a 3 footer especially when that player is shooting around 50% ?
If it were me, my message would be: dunk the ball. Second option: dunk the ball. Screw the Shamorie Ponds finesse shots. Those are for Ponds, not you. Take those million dollar moves and freakish athletic ability that got you to the basket and make sure you finish. No better way than with a dunk. If you don't want to dunk - kick it out like Coach Redman#13 said.
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Would hate to see the Duke series end as Paultzman suggests might happen. This type of game is what draws fan interest, national TV exposure and newspaper coverage very few if any other SJU game gets.
If SJU is looking to make a move up the college bb ladder they should play two opportents in this hierarchy every year, Duke at MSG, Kan away one year then reversed the next. You might suffer two defeats often but the benefits both financial and in recruiting offset that risk. With 13 OOC games yearly this type of game should be a must for SJU. Even suffering losses to this type of opponent has very little negative effect on post season bids.
If SJU is looking to make a move up the college bb ladder they should play two opportents in this hierarchy every year, Duke at MSG, Kan away one year then reversed the next. You might suffer two defeats often but the benefits both financial and in recruiting offset that risk. With 13 OOC games yearly this type of game should be a must for SJU. Even suffering losses to this type of opponent has very little negative effect on post season bids.
We are SJU wrote: He annoyed me against Gtown game and has the worst looking jumper of all time. Last year though he did make them. I noticed the difference seems to be last year he recognized he was wide open and he took his time. This year seems to be rushing the shot even though he is even wider open. Tough to say with his form but that seems to be the biggest difference. Probably confidence thing. He is one of our best 5 players and is going to play so he will have to take that shot, but needs to pick his spots a little better.
Agree it appears to be a confidence issue this year. Difference between shooting stats last year to this year, especially from 3 and foul line, is startling:
2017-2018 FG% - .473, 3PT FG% - .417, FT% - .661
2018-2019 FG% - .463, 3PT FG% - .259 FT% - .586
Seems like either Mitch or Chris needs to sit him down and give him a confidence boosting pep talk. His shooting will never be good, but it is better than it has been lately.
Agree it appears to be a confidence issue this year. Difference between shooting stats last year to this year, especially from 3 and foul line, is startling:
2017-2018 FG% - .473, 3PT FG% - .417, FT% - .661
2018-2019 FG% - .463, 3PT FG% - .259 FT% - .586
Seems like either Mitch or Chris needs to sit him down and give him a confidence boosting pep talk. His shooting will never be good, but it is better than it has been lately.
Foul trouble obviously key as Duke has 4 guys that really go at you off the bounce and make all sorts of plays through contact. In their building with the calls they get and our short rotation that could become a problem quickly. If our first 5 can stay on the court let's see what happens.
House money, fun game. Think we'll give it a good crack. That said, if things are going sideways in second half, need to be realistic and fast. 2 day turnaround for Marq to end 4 games in 10 days with the last 3 on the road. Don't want to compromise Marq game to chase a 10 point loss instead of 20. While it would be great not to get blown out, winning at Marq and getting blown out at Duke a better 2 game outcome than emptying tank to keep Duke marginally close and not being ableto bounce back for Marq.
While much more talented than Creighton, Marq is another team we match up well with in this insanely quirky conference this year. Concerned about adjustments they'll make as Wojo is borderline elite, but ability to contest Howard with Simon/Figgy and overwhlem the Hausers physically was fundamental to last win and positions us uniquely to play their best players. Sweeping McDermott who is definitely elite was a statement and injects some hope in our ability to win a second time playing to our strengths, on the road no less, not easy to do. Would be great to not be wiped and ready to go after Marq similarly.
House money, fun game. Think we'll give it a good crack. That said, if things are going sideways in second half, need to be realistic and fast. 2 day turnaround for Marq to end 4 games in 10 days with the last 3 on the road. Don't want to compromise Marq game to chase a 10 point loss instead of 20. While it would be great not to get blown out, winning at Marq and getting blown out at Duke a better 2 game outcome than emptying tank to keep Duke marginally close and not being ableto bounce back for Marq.
While much more talented than Creighton, Marq is another team we match up well with in this insanely quirky conference this year. Concerned about adjustments they'll make as Wojo is borderline elite, but ability to contest Howard with Simon/Figgy and overwhlem the Hausers physically was fundamental to last win and positions us uniquely to play their best players. Sweeping McDermott who is definitely elite was a statement and injects some hope in our ability to win a second time playing to our strengths, on the road no less, not easy to do. Would be great to not be wiped and ready to go after Marq similarly.
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How do you counteract big teams like Duke? You pass a lot, use your speed, and have active hands. I remember the UCF game last year and Tacko Fall had a field day with us. Well, we can't let Zion do that to us if we have a real shot of winning. We probably can't stop him once he gets the ball at the rim, but we can try shutting down the passing lanes so he can't receive it easily. Hands need to be very active. If we interrupt the passing lanes effectively and get lots of TO's because of it, Duke may get discouraged and try getting into a shooting match with us. That's how we can win this game. Shoot 45-50% from 3, shut down passing lanes to ZW, and hold Duke to poor shooting outside.
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[quote="SJU1512" post=319025]Foul trouble obviously key as Duke has 4 guys that really go at you off the bounce and make all sorts of plays through contact. In their building with the calls they get and our short rotation that could become a problem quickly. If our first 5 can stay on the court let's see what happens.
House money, fun game. Think we'll give it a good crack. That said, if things are going sideways in second half, need to be realistic and fast. 2 day turnaround for Marq to end 4 games in 10 days with the last 3 on the road. Don't want to compromise Marq game to chase a 10 point loss instead of 20. While it would be great not to get blown out, winning at Marq and getting blown out at Duke a better 2 game outcome than emptying tank to keep Duke marginally close and not being ableto bounce back for Marq.
While much more talented than Creighton, Marq is another team we match up well with in this insanely quirky conference this year. Concerned about adjustments they'll make as Wojo is borderline elite, but ability to contest Howard with Simon/Figgy and overwhlem the Hausers physically was fundamental to last win and positions us uniquely to play their best players. Sweeping McDermott who is definitely elite was a statement and injects some hope in our ability to win a second time playing to our strengths, on the road no less, not easy to do. Would be great to not be wiped and ready to go after Marq similarly.[/quote]
Just assume we are already in foul trouble going into Duke game. Will save you some agita.
House money, fun game. Think we'll give it a good crack. That said, if things are going sideways in second half, need to be realistic and fast. 2 day turnaround for Marq to end 4 games in 10 days with the last 3 on the road. Don't want to compromise Marq game to chase a 10 point loss instead of 20. While it would be great not to get blown out, winning at Marq and getting blown out at Duke a better 2 game outcome than emptying tank to keep Duke marginally close and not being ableto bounce back for Marq.
While much more talented than Creighton, Marq is another team we match up well with in this insanely quirky conference this year. Concerned about adjustments they'll make as Wojo is borderline elite, but ability to contest Howard with Simon/Figgy and overwhlem the Hausers physically was fundamental to last win and positions us uniquely to play their best players. Sweeping McDermott who is definitely elite was a statement and injects some hope in our ability to win a second time playing to our strengths, on the road no less, not easy to do. Would be great to not be wiped and ready to go after Marq similarly.[/quote]
Just assume we are already in foul trouble going into Duke game. Will save you some agita.
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[quote="Mike Zaun" post=319026]How do you counteract big teams like Duke? You pass a lot, use your speed, and have active hands. I remember the UCF game last year and Tacko Fall had a field day with us. Well, we can't let Zion do that to us if we have a real shot of winning. We probably can't stop him once he gets the ball at the rim, but we can try shutting down the passing lanes so he can't receive it easily. Hands need to be very active. If we interrupt the passing lanes effectively and get lots of TO's because of it, Duke may get discouraged and try getting into a shooting match with us. That's how we can win this game. Shoot 45-50% from 3, shut down passing lanes to ZW, and hold Duke to poor shooting outside.[/quote]
I agree Mullin should tell the team to shoot 50% from three. Hopefully Simon listens to him.
Sorry Mike but sometimes you make it easy......
I agree Mullin should tell the team to shoot 50% from three. Hopefully Simon listens to him.
Sorry Mike but sometimes you make it easy......
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=319026]How do you counteract big teams like Duke? You pass a lot, use your speed, and have active hands. I remember the UCF game last year and Tacko Fall had a field day with us. Well, we can't let Zion do that to us if we have a real shot of winning. We probably can't stop him once he gets the ball at the rim, but we can try shutting down the passing lanes so he can't receive it easily. Hands need to be very active. If we interrupt the passing lanes effectively and get lots of TO's because of it, Duke may get discouraged and try getting into a shooting match with us. That's how we can win this game. Shoot 45-50% from 3, shut down passing lanes to ZW, and hold Duke to poor shooting outside.[/quote]
Tacko has 8 points, 3 FGs and fouled out in 18 minutes
Tacko has 8 points, 3 FGs and fouled out in 18 minutes
[quote="espken" post=319032][quote="Mike Zaun" post=319026]How do you counteract big teams like Duke? You pass a lot, use your speed, and have active hands. I remember the UCF game last year and Tacko Fall had a field day with us. Well, we can't let Zion do that to us if we have a real shot of winning. We probably can't stop him once he gets the ball at the rim, but we can try shutting down the passing lanes so he can't receive it easily. Hands need to be very active. If we interrupt the passing lanes effectively and get lots of TO's because of it, Duke may get discouraged and try getting into a shooting match with us. That's how we can win this game. Shoot 45-50% from 3, shut down passing lanes to ZW, and hold Duke to poor shooting outside.[/quote]
Tacko has 8 points, 3 FGs and fouled out in 18 minutes[/quote]
Didn't he get his shot blocked by Justin Simon at one point in that game?
Tacko has 8 points, 3 FGs and fouled out in 18 minutes[/quote]
Didn't he get his shot blocked by Justin Simon at one point in that game?
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