(POST GAME) Xavier (MSG), Mon. Feb. 17, 6:30pm, FS-1 / 970AM
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[quote="Mean Gene" post=377680][quote="NCJohnnie" post=377672]This was toughest loss of the year for me, even worse than Gtown. We just played such exciting ball down the stretch and when Rutherford had that breakaway dunk I really thought we had it. LJ had just no business taking those last two shots, one was worse than the other.[/quote]
This is also not the first time Dunn missed FT’s in a big spot. He has to be more clutch but this loss is on Figueroa more than Dunn.[/quote]
LJ, please leave after this year, why do we want him here next year, just to throw up stupid shot, and chuck up 30ft 3s? He's like Ponds, just chucking. I want all of Mullin's players gone next year.
I know that 5* center watched tonights game, did he ever play against Posh and Wusu? If so then he knows how good they are. Just lookig for a reason that he'd want to come here.
This is also not the first time Dunn missed FT’s in a big spot. He has to be more clutch but this loss is on Figueroa more than Dunn.[/quote]
LJ, please leave after this year, why do we want him here next year, just to throw up stupid shot, and chuck up 30ft 3s? He's like Ponds, just chucking. I want all of Mullin's players gone next year.
I know that 5* center watched tonights game, did he ever play against Posh and Wusu? If so then he knows how good they are. Just lookig for a reason that he'd want to come here.
Ray Morgan
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The last 5 minutes of this game had nothing to do with a talent disparity. Awful shot selection (primarily by 1 guy) and poor execution when they got the ball back with a chance to win.
boo haarvey
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[quote="T & J" post=377685][quote="Mean Gene" post=377680][quote="NCJohnnie" post=377672]This was toughest loss of the year for me, even worse than Gtown. We just played such exciting ball down the stretch and when Rutherford had that breakaway dunk I really thought we had it. LJ had just no business taking those last two shots, one was worse than the other.[/quote]
This is also not the first time Dunn missed FT’s in a big spot. He has to be more clutch but this loss is on Figueroa more than Dunn.[/quote]
LJ, please leave after this year, why do we want him here next year, just to throw up stupid shot, and chuck up 30ft 3s? He's like Ponds, just chucking. I want all of Mullin's players gone next year.
I know that 5* center watched tonights game, did he ever play against Posh and Wusu? If so then he knows how good they are. Just lookig for a reason that he'd want to come here.[/quote]
Posts bashing LJ are ridiculous. I’d be thrilled if he came back next year!
This is also not the first time Dunn missed FT’s in a big spot. He has to be more clutch but this loss is on Figueroa more than Dunn.[/quote]
LJ, please leave after this year, why do we want him here next year, just to throw up stupid shot, and chuck up 30ft 3s? He's like Ponds, just chucking. I want all of Mullin's players gone next year.
I know that 5* center watched tonights game, did he ever play against Posh and Wusu? If so then he knows how good they are. Just lookig for a reason that he'd want to come here.[/quote]
Posts bashing LJ are ridiculous. I’d be thrilled if he came back next year!
[quote="SJU61982" post=377676]This team has lost so often, that they've gotten good at it. It's why I don't mind a mass exodus at the end of the year (within reason, obviously). Bringing the same crew bacj will just breed more losing, IMO.[/quote] I think we have a good core w Roberts,, Earlington, Champagne ,Dunn and Williams. All are improving and should be better next year. I would hate to see any of them leave.Tough loss .
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Lambsbball
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That Freeman kid came out of nowhere. Made that easy basket, then blocked an important shot. He really caused St John's fits during the final 5 minutes.
Excellent player for a Freshman. He's going to be a major problem for all the BE teams for the next 3 years.
Excellent player for a Freshman. He's going to be a major problem for all the BE teams for the next 3 years.
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[quote="Duke of Earlington" post=377675]Free theows!!!! Both dunn and earlington missed front ends of a one and one down the stretch. Hit those and the game is over.
Very fun game to watch though. We are going to be a force in the big east soon. Its coming.[/quote]
Yeah, but as always.
Next year. Sick of the next year thing.
Very fun game to watch though. We are going to be a force in the big east soon. Its coming.[/quote]
Yeah, but as always.
Next year. Sick of the next year thing.
guinness77
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This one still hurts even 20 minutes later.
How Figueroa can look any of his teammates in the face after that game, I don’t know. You’re supposed to be a leader of this team and instead of deferring to the 3 or 4 guys who lead them to that point, he just starts selfishly chucking the ball from all spots of the court. It’s really inexcusable and it’s shocking. He’s regressed big time this season.
How Figueroa can look any of his teammates in the face after that game, I don’t know. You’re supposed to be a leader of this team and instead of deferring to the 3 or 4 guys who lead them to that point, he just starts selfishly chucking the ball from all spots of the court. It’s really inexcusable and it’s shocking. He’s regressed big time this season.
boo haarvey
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[quote="Vincent Shallow" post=377688]Interesting: at the hiring press conference, CMA had Fig & Heron on the dais with him; he was so desperate to keep the 2 best players.......Hmmmmmmmm!!!??? How did that work out?[/quote]
And the third kid at the dais never played a game for us.
And the third kid at the dais never played a game for us.
[quote="Ray Morgan" post=377686]The last 5 minutes of this game had nothing to do with a talent disparity. Awful shot selection (primarily by 1 guy) and poor execution when they got the ball back with a chance to win.[/quote]
Obviously a pet peeve of mine but we have no talent disparity. Defense and hustle are talents, we put up 70+ “talentless” points in 37 minutes and then a lack of talent takes over? I don’t buy it. Our “best player” shoots horrendously but then decides he is going to win the game on his own? We have talent, we just don’t know how to win.
Obviously a pet peeve of mine but we have no talent disparity. Defense and hustle are talents, we put up 70+ “talentless” points in 37 minutes and then a lack of talent takes over? I don’t buy it. Our “best player” shoots horrendously but then decides he is going to win the game on his own? We have talent, we just don’t know how to win.
[quote="Ray Morgan" post=377686]The last 5 minutes of this game had nothing to do with a talent disparity. Awful shot selection (primarily by 1 guy) and poor execution when they got the ball back with a chance to win.[/quote]
It wasn't just shot selection. it was also the fact they went one for 13 down the stretch. Missing many easy shots in the paint. Yes there were poor decision and poor shots but if they make one of those layups, they win. They make the front end of a one and one and they win. Very frustrating to watch
It wasn't just shot selection. it was also the fact they went one for 13 down the stretch. Missing many easy shots in the paint. Yes there were poor decision and poor shots but if they make one of those layups, they win. They make the front end of a one and one and they win. Very frustrating to watch
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[quote="Boo Harvey" post=377687][quote="T & J" post=377685][quote="Mean Gene" post=377680][quote="NCJohnnie" post=377672]This was toughest loss of the year for me, even worse than Gtown. We just played such exciting ball down the stretch and when Rutherford had that breakaway dunk I really thought we had it. LJ had just no business taking those last two shots, one was worse than the other.[/quote]
This is also not the first time Dunn missed FT’s in a big spot. He has to be more clutch but this loss is on Figueroa more than Dunn.[/quote]
LJ, please leave after this year, why do we want him here next year, just to throw up stupid shot, and chuck up 30ft 3s? He's like Ponds, just chucking. I want all of Mullin's players gone next year.
I know that 5* center watched tonights game, did he ever play against Posh and Wusu? If so then he knows how good they are. Just lookig for a reason that he'd want to come here.[/quote]
Posts bashing LJ are ridiculous. I’d be thrilled if he came back next year![/quote]
NO, it's not ridiculous. He's been chucking those dumb shots up all year long and i'm sick of it.
You not me would be thrilled if he came back, I'd rather he just go.
This is also not the first time Dunn missed FT’s in a big spot. He has to be more clutch but this loss is on Figueroa more than Dunn.[/quote]
LJ, please leave after this year, why do we want him here next year, just to throw up stupid shot, and chuck up 30ft 3s? He's like Ponds, just chucking. I want all of Mullin's players gone next year.
I know that 5* center watched tonights game, did he ever play against Posh and Wusu? If so then he knows how good they are. Just lookig for a reason that he'd want to come here.[/quote]
Posts bashing LJ are ridiculous. I’d be thrilled if he came back next year![/quote]
NO, it's not ridiculous. He's been chucking those dumb shots up all year long and i'm sick of it.
You not me would be thrilled if he came back, I'd rather he just go.
[quote="Jack Williams" post=377681][quote="SJU61982" post=377676]This team has lost so often, that they've gotten good at it. It's why I don't mind a mass exodus at the end of the year (within reason, obviously). Bringing the same crew bacj will just breed more losing, IMO.[/quote]
Stop[/quote] Sorry, but knowing you're going to lose, despite being up by 5 with 90 seconds left, is indication of a problem. I wasen't just being pessimistic. I knew we were going to lose, in the same vain that I know it's going to be dark out at midnight. That's not just a personel issue (although that's part of it). It's a mentality and/or late game coaching issue, and it has to change. 1-6 in game decided by 5 points or less, this year, 0-5 in Big East games. That's a problem.
Stop[/quote] Sorry, but knowing you're going to lose, despite being up by 5 with 90 seconds left, is indication of a problem. I wasen't just being pessimistic. I knew we were going to lose, in the same vain that I know it's going to be dark out at midnight. That's not just a personel issue (although that's part of it). It's a mentality and/or late game coaching issue, and it has to change. 1-6 in game decided by 5 points or less, this year, 0-5 in Big East games. That's a problem.
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boo haarvey
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[quote="T & J" post=377699][quote="Boo Harvey" post=377687][quote="T & J" post=377685][quote="Mean Gene" post=377680][quote="NCJohnnie" post=377672]This was toughest loss of the year for me, even worse than Gtown. We just played such exciting ball down the stretch and when Rutherford had that breakaway dunk I really thought we had it. LJ had just no business taking those last two shots, one was worse than the other.[/quote]
This is also not the first time Dunn missed FT’s in a big spot. He has to be more clutch but this loss is on Figueroa more than Dunn.[/quote]
LJ, please leave after this year, why do we want him here next year, just to throw up stupid shot, and chuck up 30ft 3s? He's like Ponds, just chucking. I want all of Mullin's players gone next year.
I know that 5* center watched tonights game, did he ever play against Posh and Wusu? If so then he knows how good they are. Just lookig for a reason that he'd want to come here.[/quote]
Posts bashing LJ are ridiculous. I’d be thrilled if he came back next year![/quote]
NO, it's not ridiculous. He's been chucking those dumb shots up all year long and i'm sick of it.
You not me would be thrilled if he came back, I'd rather he just go.[/quote]
Team is offensively challenged. Figueroa would be a terrific third option.
This is also not the first time Dunn missed FT’s in a big spot. He has to be more clutch but this loss is on Figueroa more than Dunn.[/quote]
LJ, please leave after this year, why do we want him here next year, just to throw up stupid shot, and chuck up 30ft 3s? He's like Ponds, just chucking. I want all of Mullin's players gone next year.
I know that 5* center watched tonights game, did he ever play against Posh and Wusu? If so then he knows how good they are. Just lookig for a reason that he'd want to come here.[/quote]
Posts bashing LJ are ridiculous. I’d be thrilled if he came back next year![/quote]
NO, it's not ridiculous. He's been chucking those dumb shots up all year long and i'm sick of it.
You not me would be thrilled if he came back, I'd rather he just go.[/quote]
Team is offensively challenged. Figueroa would be a terrific third option.
STJ11Redmen
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[quote="SJU61982" post=377701][quote="Jack Williams" post=377681][quote="SJU61982" post=377676]This team has lost so often, that they've gotten good at it. It's why I don't mind a mass exodus at the end of the year (within reason, obviously). Bringing the same crew bacj will just breed more losing, IMO.[/quote]
Stop[/quote] Sorry, but knowing you're going to lose, despite being up by 5 with 90 seconds left, is indication of a problem. I wasen't just being pessimistic. I knew we were going to lose, in the same vain that I know it's going to be dark out at midnight. That's not just a personel issue (although that's part of it), it's a mentality and/or late game coaching, and it has to change. 1-6 in game decided by 5 points or less, this year, 0-5 in Big East games. That's a problem.[/quote]
We don’t have a guy at the end of games who can make shots with any reliability. It’s as simple as that. We miss Shamorie dearly. It’s a miracle we can even hang in these games. The kids are playing hard and are easy to root for. Would be a shame to lose any of these guys who played tonight.
Stop[/quote] Sorry, but knowing you're going to lose, despite being up by 5 with 90 seconds left, is indication of a problem. I wasen't just being pessimistic. I knew we were going to lose, in the same vain that I know it's going to be dark out at midnight. That's not just a personel issue (although that's part of it), it's a mentality and/or late game coaching, and it has to change. 1-6 in game decided by 5 points or less, this year, 0-5 in Big East games. That's a problem.[/quote]
We don’t have a guy at the end of games who can make shots with any reliability. It’s as simple as that. We miss Shamorie dearly. It’s a miracle we can even hang in these games. The kids are playing hard and are easy to root for. Would be a shame to lose any of these guys who played tonight.
[quote="SJU61982" post=377701][quote="Jack Williams" post=377681][quote="SJU61982" post=377676]This team has lost so often, that they've gotten good at it. It's why I don't mind a mass exodus at the end of the year (within reason, obviously). Bringing the same crew bacj will just breed more losing, IMO.[/quote]
Stop[/quote] Sorry, but knowing you're going to lose, despite being up by 5 with 90 seconds left, is indication of a problem. I wasen't just being pessimistic. I knew we were going to lose, in the same vain that I know it's going to be dark out at midnight. That's not just a personel issue (although that's part of it), it's a mentality and/or late game coaching, and it has to change. 1-6 in game decided by 5 points or less, this year, 0-5 in Big East games. That's a problem.[/quote]
absolutely ridiculous to say that “bringing the same crew back will just breed more losing”.
A lot of our players are young guys in their first year of playing high level D1 basketball. Roberts, Greg, and Earlington were used sparingly last year. Dunn comes from Cleveland st. Champ is a true frosh.
These guys are going to take their lumps and learn from it and get better. To say you don’t want them and basically call them losers who will never be winners is some reallll bullshit.
Don’t come around celebrating when this same core is a part of some great winning seasons in the near future...
Stop[/quote] Sorry, but knowing you're going to lose, despite being up by 5 with 90 seconds left, is indication of a problem. I wasen't just being pessimistic. I knew we were going to lose, in the same vain that I know it's going to be dark out at midnight. That's not just a personel issue (although that's part of it), it's a mentality and/or late game coaching, and it has to change. 1-6 in game decided by 5 points or less, this year, 0-5 in Big East games. That's a problem.[/quote]
absolutely ridiculous to say that “bringing the same crew back will just breed more losing”.
A lot of our players are young guys in their first year of playing high level D1 basketball. Roberts, Greg, and Earlington were used sparingly last year. Dunn comes from Cleveland st. Champ is a true frosh.
These guys are going to take their lumps and learn from it and get better. To say you don’t want them and basically call them losers who will never be winners is some reallll bullshit.
Don’t come around celebrating when this same core is a part of some great winning seasons in the near future...