POST-GAME) St. Francis (Bklyn), Wed. Dec. 19, 6:30p, FS-1 / 570 WMCA

[quote="SJU61982" post=309025][quote="NCJohnnie" post=309024]Agree not much to complain about last night. The one thing that does continue to plague us is poor foul shooting. We are now below 70% as a team and 3 of our top 6 players are below 60%. That must drive Mullin & Richmond crazy; giving away free points and we are a good shooting team otherwise. The fact that Shamorie shoots the most free throws and hits them at 87% saves us from being even worse than 69%.[/quote]

I've been saying this for a year and a half now. If we are ahead late in a close game, then Simon can not be on the floor. His free throw shooting is horrible. It seems, with him, like the FT line is just a spot on the court where he does not see the basket well, because his form is all right.[/quote]

Simon wears contacts. Maybe they are accidentally reversed before the game. Need a grad assistant to double check.
 
Re: Heron. I think he's the most affected by Keita's injury (other than Keita himself). He is forced to play out of position, guard much taller opponents and battle under the boards. That has to pout him out of sorts, and out of sync. He is a much better player than what we've seen so far. But, he's battled and rebounded well. He has missed a number of short shots, some because he's forcing and some because he's probably tired having to play against bigger guys. That's also why he has accumulated some fouls as well. I am sure that he will show up big in BE competition.
 
SJU61982 wrote: I've been saying this for a year and a half now. If we are ahead late in a close game, then Simon can not be on the floor. His free throw shooting is horrible. It seems, with him, like the FT line is just a spot on the court where he does not see the basket well, because his form is all right.

Unfortunately, at this point in the season, Figgy & Dixon are even worse FT shooters than Simon so improvement is needed before we get in close BE games.
 
[quote="redmanwest" post=309032]Re: Heron. I think he's the most affected by Keita's injury (other than Keita himself). He is forced to play out of position, guard much taller opponents and battle under the boards. That has to pout him out of sorts, and out of sync. He is a much better player than what we've seen so far. But, he's battled and rebounded well. He has missed a number of short shots, some because he's forcing and some because he's probably tired having to play against bigger guys. That's also why he has accumulated some fouls as well. I am sure that he will show up big in BE competition.[/quote]

He wants to play in the NBA so he needs to get used to it. He'll be the smallest player on the floor some games.
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=309034]SJU61982 wrote: I've been saying this for a year and a half now. If we are ahead late in a close game, then Simon can not be on the floor. His free throw shooting is horrible. It seems, with him, like the FT line is just a spot on the court where he does not see the basket well, because his form is all right.

Unfortunately, at this point in the season, Figgy & Dixon are even worse FT shooters than Simon so improvement is needed before we get in close BE games.[/quote]

Dixon has only taken 14 FTs.

He shot 86% from the line on over 100 attempts his freshman season.
 
Marillac, I hear that, but at 6'5" he won't likely be the smallest player most times, and he will mostly be guarding guys at his own position. And, he has a pro body that will possibly make him tough to defend for smaller/weaker guards. I don't think he will get worn down like he is sometimes playing guys 6'8" and 6'9" like he is now.
 
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Marillac wrote: Dixon has only taken 14 FTs.

He shot 86% from the line on over 100 attempts his freshman season.

I agree Dixon should be a good foul shooter; so should Figueroa who shot 73% in JC; but they haven't been good in the first 11 games. In fact, with the exception of Shamorie, everyone's (Clark, Figueroa, Heron & Simon) percentages are down from last season. It's a part of the game that's become undervalued imho. If we shoot 69% all year, it'll likely cost us a couple of games.
 
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Nice to see Williams get some playing time. Let the game come to him, no panic and no rushed shots. Played with confidence which is a good sign since he hasn't seen much action.
Nice to see Dixon drive and finish at the basket.
Ponds has upped his NBA stock with his point guard play and assists.
 
Ponds made a move last night that would have been a charge for almost any other player in college basketball. He is driving and the defender positions himself for the charge. Ponds jumps straight, but his body somehow veers slightly right in mid-flight, avoiding the charge. Of course he made the layup, with his off hand no less. Watching him drive to the basket is a thing of beauty, especially on a fast break. He assess where everyone is when he approaches the top of key, and adjusts his direction accordingly, and attacks either right, left or center, all with equal chance of success. I don't know if he will make the NBA or not, but I believe he would be able to get to where he wants to be on offense. His defense may hold him back, but I would take a chance on him.
 
[quote="Ray Morgan" post=309077]Ponds made a move last night that would have been a charge for almost any other player in college basketball. He is driving and the defender positions himself for the charge. Ponds jumps straight, but his body somehow veers slightly right in mid-flight, avoiding the charge. Of course he made the layup, with his off hand no less. Watching him drive to the basket is a thing of beauty, especially on a fast break. He assess where everyone is when he approaches the top of key, and adjusts his direction accordingly, and attacks either right, left or center, all with equal chance of success. I don't know if he will make the NBA or not, but I believe he would be able to get to where he wants to be on offense. His defense may hold him back, but I would take a chance on him.[/quote]

The thing about Ponds is, he looks like he's playing in a different speed than everyone else on the court. He's always so calm and smooth, and everything just appears so graceful and easy to him. Special kid.
 
[quote="Ray Morgan" post=309077]Ponds made a move last night that would have been a charge for almost any other player in college basketball. He is driving and the defender positions himself for the charge. Ponds jumps straight, but his body somehow veers slightly right in mid-flight, avoiding the charge. Of course he made the layup, with his off hand no less. Watching him drive to the basket is a thing of beauty, especially on a fast break. He assess where everyone is when he approaches the top of key, and adjusts his direction accordingly, and attacks either right, left or center, all with equal chance of success. I don't know if he will make the NBA or not, but I believe he would be able to get to where he wants to be on offense. His defense may hold him back, but I would take a chance on him.[/quote]

Great instincts which can’t be taught. True magician
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=309039]Marillac wrote: Dixon has only taken 14 FTs.

He shot 86% from the line on over 100 attempts his freshman season.

I agree Dixon should be a good foul shooter; so should Figueroa who shot 73% in JC; but they haven't been good in the first 11 games. In fact, with the exception of Shamorie, everyone's (Clark, Figueroa, Heron & Simon) percentages are down from last season. It's a part of the game that's become undervalued imho. If we shoot 69% all year, it'll likely cost us a couple of games.[/quote]

Weird phenomenon when guy steps up in talent level sometimes free throw shooting suffers. Not sure why? Nerves? You see it a bunch in NBA where an 80% shooter in college will struggle his first couple years in pros.
Of top of my head Mark Jackson shot over 80 his senior year then I think he shot under 70 in one of 1st 2 years foR Knicks.
 
we are sju wrote:Weird phenomenon when guy steps up in talent level sometimes free throw shooting suffers. Not sure why? Nerves? You see it a bunch in NBA where an 80% shooter in college will struggle his first couple years in pros.
Of top of my head Mark Jackson shot over 80 his senior year then I think he shot under 70 in one of 1st 2 years foR Knicks.

Jalen Brunson is a good example of that this year. Shot over 80% his last two years at Nova, shooting just under 65% as a rookie, admittedly with small sample size (22-34).
 
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=309110]we are sju wrote:Weird phenomenon when guy steps up in talent level sometimes free throw shooting suffers. Not sure why? Nerves? You see it a bunch in NBA where an 80% shooter in college will struggle his first couple years in pros.
Of top of my head Mark Jackson shot over 80 his senior year then I think he shot under 70 in one of 1st 2 years foR Knicks.

Jalen Brunson is a good example of that this year. Shot over 80% his last two years at Nova, shooting just under 65% as a rookie, admittedly with small sample size (22-34).[/quote]

I was once in the gym at Alumni Hall right after lifting weights. I started shooting around and my shot was embarrassingly off. Ron Rutledge comes over and starts making fun of me. I kind of mumbled that I had just been lifting weights and he continued to heckle me as I bricked a really ugly shot off the backboard. Good times...

The point being that the NBA is way more physically demanding that college just like Div I basketball is more demanding than high school or juco. There are physical adjustments to be made just like mental ones. Free throws are mental but also muscle memory. If your training has changed dramatically your muscles have too so the memory is off...
 
[quote="Paul Massell" post=309112][quote="NCJohnnie" post=309110]we are sju wrote:Weird phenomenon when guy steps up in talent level sometimes free throw shooting suffers. Not sure why? Nerves? You see it a bunch in NBA where an 80% shooter in college will struggle his first couple years in pros.
Of top of my head Mark Jackson shot over 80 his senior year then I think he shot under 70 in one of 1st 2 years foR Knicks.

Jalen Brunson is a good example of that this year. Shot over 80% his last two years at Nova, shooting just under 65% as a rookie, admittedly with small sample size (22-34).[/quote]

I was once in the gym at Alumni Hall right after lifting weights. I started shooting around and my shot was embarrassingly off. Ron Rutledge comes over and starts making fun of me. I kind of mumbled that I had just been lifting weights and he continued to heckle me as I bricked a really ugly shot off the backboard. Good times...

The point being that the NBA is way more physically demanding that college just like Div I basketball is more demanding than high school or juco. There are physical adjustments to be made just like mental ones. Free throws are mental but also muscle memory. If your training has changed dramatically your muscles have too so the memory is off...[/quote]

Get used to reality Paul. You're white and you sucked, just like 98% of us white guys.
 
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Get used to reality Paul. You're white and you sucked, just like 98% of us white guys.[/quote]

It's all part of the plan.
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