(POST-GAME) @Providence, Wed. Feb.20, 8:30p, FS-1 / Sirius XM 971

Well , we have rehashed all the Season long comments from our Forum of Coaching gurus on last nights game . Of course. It’s all Mullins defensive schemes that lost the game , etc . How about chalking it up to horrible shooting for the whole game ? Figgy was 7-19 and missed a lot of his patented Floaters that rolled off . Ponds had 4 points , Clark 0. Earlingon had 10 . Late . We were still in the game when Clark got his 4 th but, quickly lost it , when he got his 5 th and 6 th . We never recovered. PC went to the line 37 times to our 18 . They made 27 points to our 10! While our team does foul often , never to the level this Game disintegrated into . These Refs enjoyed chatting with Cooley throughly during the game . Mullin not so much . The League should look into that kind of fraternizing during a game . It was a home game for the Friars , we get that but , the way this game was reffed was out of hand and the wide discrepancy in fouls called , while the game was still competitive , was a Sin ! Cooley should send a case of Wine to the 3 officials and maybe 1 to Stu Jackson . We lost our poise early in 2nd half , after the Clark blow up and the game was going out of hand then . Coach K , Red Auerbach or John Wooden would not have been able to turn the tide at that point . .
 
I don't understand the fans and beat writers being so shocked at Prov beating SJU. Teams 3 to 10 in the BE at very close in talent and it looks like no one will play greater than 500. You have to convert that home court edge to wins.
If any coach should be slammed it is Cooley for being 6 and 9 with his roster . The SJU talent is overrated having no size and no bench.
 
@NYPost_Brazille
Chris Mullin was a no-show on the Big East conference call today. Was "unavailable." #sjubb
12:25 PM - Feb 21, 2019

Come on. Be better than this.
 
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[quote="Chris7" post=324709]@NYPost_Brazille
Chris Mullin was a no-show on the Big East conference call today. Was "unavailable." #sjubb
12:25 PM - Feb 21, 2019

Come on. Be better than this.[/quote]

this team and staff sure is doing everything they possibly can to make sure the fans have the joy the Nova game brought us taken completely away
 
[quote="Chris7" post=324709]@NYPost_Brazille
Chris Mullin was a no-show on the Big East conference call today. Was "unavailable." #sjubb
12:25 PM - Feb 21, 2019

Come on. Be better than this.[/quote]

Probably is concerned about any fine he would get, if the topic of officiating came up. That would be my guess. But still, he should get on the call and just "no comment" everything.
 
He is the head of the program. The inconsistency falls on him. If the players have trouble getting up for games it falls on him because he ultimately chooses these players.

There has been some good and bad moments this year. Hopefully he can learn from them and realize we need more depth and size going forward.
 
[quote="SJU61982" post=324713][quote="Chris7" post=324709]@NYPost_Brazille
Chris Mullin was a no-show on the Big East conference call today. Was "unavailable." #sjubb
12:25 PM - Feb 21, 2019

Come on. Be better than this.[/quote]

Probably is concerned about any fine he would get, if the topic of officiating came up. That would be my guess. But still, he should get on the call and just "no comment" everything.[/quote]

We did not lose last night's game because of officiating. There is always an excuse with this team, but it is never on the coaching staff. Two things I notice: 1) we are not as good as we think we are & need to play hard from the get go for 40 minutes 2) during this season I see other BE teams improving while our performance and effort vary wildly game to game.
 
[quote="ron " post=324723][quote="SJU61982" post=324713][quote="Chris7" post=324709]@NYPost_Brazille
Chris Mullin was a no-show on the Big East conference call today. Was "unavailable." #sjubb
12:25 PM - Feb 21, 2019

Come on. Be better than this.[/quote]

Probably is concerned about any fine he would get, if the topic of officiating came up. That would be my guess. But still, he should get on the call and just "no comment" everything.[/quote]

We did not lose last night's game because of officiating. There is always an excuse with this team, but it is never on the coaching staff. Two things I notice: 1) we are not as good as we think we are & need to play hard from the get go for 40 minutes 2) during this season I see other BE teams improving while our performance and effort vary wildly game to game.[/quote] Never said the refs cost us the game last night. However, after 4 seasons of frustration with them, it looked like he reached his breaking point late in last night's game. Only thing that stopped him from getting a T was that he took it out on Stu Jackson, rather then the refs. Maybe he was still ticked off about it this morning.
 
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As a fan I probably always lean toward thinking we get screwed on calls but trying to be objective this year seems like the worst ever as far as calls against us and officiating in general. Didn’t cost us the game last night but damn it seems like a lot more go against us than for us this year
 
I totally agree. Therefore our team needs to consider what they can change about their actions that could hopefully lead to a change. If they continue to act (and react) the same way, the games will be called the same way. Sunday's game was horribly officiated for both teams. Those guys were awful.
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=324728]As a fan I probably always lean toward thinking we get screwed on calls but trying to be objective this year seems like the worst ever as far as calls against us and officiating in general. Didn’t cost us the game last night but damn it seems like a lot more go against us than for us this year[/quote]

Part of the problem is Mullin's constant ragging on the refs. The players also follow the coach's lead. Refs are human and even if they are not making calls against us on purpose, they may be reacting subconsciously to the abuse.
 
[quote="ron " post=324730][quote="mjmaherjr" post=324728]As a fan I probably always lean toward thinking we get screwed on calls but trying to be objective this year seems like the worst ever as far as calls against us and officiating in general. Didn’t cost us the game last night but damn it seems like a lot more go against us than for us this year[/quote]

Part of the problem is Mullin's constant ragging on the refs. The players also follow the coach's lead. Refs are human and even if they are not making calls against us on purpose, they may be reacting subconsciously to the abuse.[/quote]

When Mullin was not "yelling "at the refs enough earlier in the season, fans here complained he needed to "complain" more or we would continue getting screwed. Now people have flipped.
It all comes down to wins and losses. Win, Mullin is great, lose, and no matter what he does it's wrong.
 
I’ve had similar thoughts as Paultz re: constant complaining not giving us the benefit of a whiste. But as noted Jay Wright does this as much as anyone, usually for the whole game unless his team is up by 20. And yet Nova gets a good whistle more often than not, though part of that is because of how intelligently they play.

I don’t mind Mullin doing it. But the players should tone it down a bit.
 
[quote="SJU1512" post=324669][quote="MJDinkins" post=324575]Jarvis’ team did its best work on defense. The Red Storm opened in a straight man. They pressed full-court man. They pressed full-court zone. They pressed three-quarters court. They dropped back into a zone.

https://nypost.com/1999/01/21/jarvis-plays-big-from-bench-coachs-game-plan-frazzles-friars/

A quote from our January 1999 win at Providence during the 1998-1999 season. You find other ways to defeat your opponent. Instead, we played the same game that got our ass beat a week and a half ago. The "poor matchup" versus Providence is bulllshit.

If this staff can't adjust, then they won't have any long-term success. I'm not sold on this staff, and games like tonight just reaffirms my feelings.[/quote]

Agree, MJD. I happen to think Prov is bad match-up for SJU this year. Lot of bigger guards to run at Ponds, they don't rely on wings offensively for a majority of their offense that LJ/Simon can take away, and the discrepancy on the interior perhaps most of all.

That said, to your point, that's no excuse to not adjust effectively. Teams face bad matchups all the time and don't just waive the white flag. It was mind-boggling that the team seemed unprepared in the first half last night offensively to see an extended 1-2-2 zone, given that they had just gotten eaten up by the same thing less than 2 weeks ago. Why wouldn't Cooley go right at them with it again?

After that game I certainly thought the staff would have seen enough attempts at ball screening the top of that zone 25 feet from the basket to last them the rest of their careers, and might consider getting LJ or even Ponds to the foul line since soft spot of that zone is in the middle. I was unfortunately wrong :)[/quote]

I guess Providence would be a bad matchup if continue to trot out the same gameplan by exclusively playing man-to-man D, switching on defense and allowing the Friars to run their stuff. We're playing to their strengths and, per se', playing into their hands.

If we were to switch up defenses with multiple zones and utilize more traps and ball pressure, then we may be able to take away what Providence wants to do and try to force 'em to play our liking. Is that to say to we'd win? By no means am I saying we'd win. But I do think we could possibly see a different game. Otherwise, if we face the Friars in the Big East Tournament, then we may as well concede the game if we use the same game plan that has gotten us hammered twice.

Good post, 1512.
 
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[quote="MJDinkins" post=324734][quote="SJU1512" post=324669][quote="MJDinkins" post=324575]Jarvis’ team did its best work on defense. The Red Storm opened in a straight man. They pressed full-court man. They pressed full-court zone. They pressed three-quarters court. They dropped back into a zone.

https://nypost.com/1999/01/21/jarvis-plays-big-from-bench-coachs-game-plan-frazzles-friars/

A quote from our January 1999 win at Providence during the 1998-1999 season. You find other ways to defeat your opponent. Instead, we played the same game that got our ass beat a week and a half ago. The "poor matchup" versus Providence is bulllshit.

If this staff can't adjust, then they won't have any long-term success. I'm not sold on this staff, and games like tonight just reaffirms my feelings.[/quote]

Agree, MJD. I happen to think Prov is bad match-up for SJU this year. Lot of bigger guards to run at Ponds, they don't rely on wings offensively for a majority of their offense that LJ/Simon can take away, and the discrepancy on the interior perhaps most of all.

That said, to your point, that's no excuse to not adjust effectively. Teams face bad matchups all the time and don't just waive the white flag. It was mind-boggling that the team seemed unprepared in the first half last night offensively to see an extended 1-2-2 zone, given that they had just gotten eaten up by the same thing less than 2 weeks ago. Why wouldn't Cooley go right at them with it again?

After that game I certainly thought the staff would have seen enough attempts at ball screening the top of that zone 25 feet from the basket to last them the rest of their careers, and might consider getting LJ or even Ponds to the foul line since soft spot of that zone is in the middle. I was unfortunately wrong :)[/quote]

I guess Providence would be a bad matchup if continue to trot out the same gameplan by exclusively playing man-to-man D, switching on defense and allowing the Friars to run their stuff. We're playing to their strengths and, per se', playing into their hands.

If we were to switch up defenses with multiple zones and utilize more traps and ball pressure, then we may be able to take away what Providence wants to do and try to force 'em to play our liking. Is that to say to we'd win? By no means am I saying we'd win. But I do think we could possibly see a different game. Otherwise, if we face the Friars in the Big East Tournament, then we may as well concede the game if we use the same game plan that has gotten us hammered twice.

Good post, 1512.[/quote]

Exactly, you cannot come into every game with the same game plan. PC wants to play slow and methodical. We needed to create frenzied play. We needed to press and then fall into a zone then pick up full court man to man and keep switching causing them to feel rushed. Make them use the shot clock by pressing them giving them less time to ease the ball down low. Make their big man guard Clark out on the perimeter and make him chase him all over the place. We need to tire out their big on defense. That does not get done by standing in one place on a possession waiting to jack a 3. Hopefully we can use this as a learning tool.
 
[quote="JackofVirginia" post=324686][quote="Paultzman" post=324608]Obviously Keita is recovering from an injury, but let’s be honest, he is not blessed with decent hands, instincts and rebounding ability. Small sample perhaps, but he plays robotically in the post even when he manages to secure a pass. At this level and with quick pace SJU wants to play, that is a problem. Finishing shots after quick interior passes is a must. Not ripping him, just being candid and realistic. Btw, Manuel is a project also & as they develop Roberts along with a more skilled Steere, hard to envision Keita being an interior mainstay next season. Just my opinion.[/quote]

What did we see in this kid at South Carolina? Certainly not a good rebounder, along with poor hands and unprepared to shoot inside. I agree he shouldn't be a prime player next year.[/quote]

I'm not convinced any Big man Matt recruits has the offensive skillsets to make a difference in our front line. Maybe he just doesn't have the eye for that type of player. It would have been nice if someone else on the staff did but except for Precious and one or two other players they simply don't have the work ethic of what it takes to go hard after players.
It's inexcusable for Ponds and Clark to play with such little basketball IQ when you're being trained by two HOF players.
It's in the locker room before the game that coaches get their players motivated mentally. It's in the practices before the game that you prepare for a specific opponent to exploit their weaknesses. If that is happening why oh why do we hear the same excuses from the players about not being ready or not being on the same page?
Could it be that 4 transfers from 4 different prior programs are feeble recruiting attempts by Matt and Mullin to fill out a roster that really wasn't meant to play together in the first place? Are we seeing the same negative traits in these players we only watched a few times at their previous destination come go fruition at St. John's and why they didn't get the minutes by their previous coaches? We may have 5 decent players but do their individual skills blend well with their teammates?
How do we know Caraher, Wright, Steere, Manuel, Keita and God only knows what other late transfer addition we bring in will mesh under this very marginal coaching staff and system.
 
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[quote="SJU61982" post=324548][quote="Jack Williams" post=324544]It’s a bad matchup. We got swept. It’s over. But the worst part is that the Xavier team we haven’t played yet is also an equally awful matchup. And so is DePaul on the road. Saturday is shaping up to be a complete must win for this team[/quote]

The two teams we match up with best, are the two best teams in the league (well, maybe Creighton too, because the big guys they have are nothing special).[/quote]

Seriously, if the top 5 are that talented, which I think they are, and well coached, which . . . I'll keep my mouth shut, then you make them match up with you.
 
[quote="mjmaherjr" post=324638][quote="JohnnyFan" post=324502]St. John's should do the right thing and reimburse Mike for his ticket.[/quote] luckily my friend got those $300 courtside seats for free. Oh man up at 3:45am on the road at 4:45am got to work at 9:25am. That was a rough not pleasant drive. Memo to self stay at marriot courtyard next time. The air in my room at the Omni made Carnesseca upper deck feel like winter[/quote]

Hope you caught one of the ferries rather than driving all the way around.
 
[quote="espken" post=324699][quote="sjc88" post=324689]Most of last night's game was a bunch of guys standing around the perimeter launching three's or forcing ill advised shots.[/quote]

It’s been that way for 27 games, its in the playbook. You win some and you lose some[/quote]

But it works great when they shoot 45% from 3 . . . .
 
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