(POST GAME) (@MSG) Pittsburgh, Sat., Dec. 18, 12 Noon, FS-1

We needed someone to step up in Champys absence and no one did.  

Wheeler, Smith, Mathis, Pinzon all stunk it up.

We were 22-63 from the field yesterday. That is embarrassing for a bunch of D1 players vs a bad pitt team.

We just dont have the talent, its that simple.

And yes its nice we have storr coming but Julian will leave so its going to be a wash at best.

Until we have a recruiting class with multiple 4 star kids coming in, this is the best we can do.
 
 
Duke, you hit it on the head ,  we were sitting there waiting for someone - anyone to step up and no one did

Still  you win that game if you even hit 2 or 3 more free throws   that still has them shooting under 70 percent

Your not going to win many basketball games at any level
 
Phil G post=447648 said:
Duke, you hit it on the head ,  we were sitting there waiting for someone - anyone to step up and no one did

Still  you win that game if you even hit 2 or 3 more free throws   that still has them shooting under 70 percent

Your not going to win many basketball games at any level

They win the game if they play smart and value the basketball. They don't.  With alarming regularity.  Especially in the end game nursing a small lead.  Needing to find a good shot when tied or behind? Also not good.   The free throws were an embarrassment but hopefully not a trend.
 
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Sure we were awful from the foul line and Pitt was at the free throw stripe more than fans at the Concession stand but , they were beating us off the dribble at will .   So , we fouled .   They were longer and quicker at every position . Posh excluded .                                                               And , how about our Defense on the last play ?  You know, this Forum roasted Mullin and his Staff for nearly his entire tenure here .  I didn’t see a lot of Mike or his staff doing a lot of Coaching during the game and obviously not on that last play .  We let the Pitt kid go coast to coast without a challenge . Even to just take more time off the Clock .   Nope , CMA has to take heat for that defense .    Not complaining about his players being tough enough !   He picked them . 
 
couldn't believe that last play  eight seconds and was able to get off a good look

Defense has not been anything special through all 11 games
 
The absence of Champy exposed the lack of strategy in both offensive and defensive play.  That’s on the coach.
 
Were  any of coach’s team good defensively . Frankly,I scratch my head,on our lack of D plays,never take adv  of the give and go ,out of bounds plays ,plays off the jump ball ,basically  good old fashion Princeton Defense .Creighton recruits  and finds good shooters and good  foul shooters.Also ,they get good bigs who can do it all 
Can not see us doing well in confr and if we wind up near the bottom coach should be on the hot seat




 
 
Phil G post=447652 said:
coultdn't believe that last play  eight seconds and was able to get off a good look

Defense has not been anything special through all 11 games
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Too tired and bummed-out to have read all but a handful of post-game posts, but I just read yours, Phil, and definitely agree. I've never critized CMA on the board ever since he took the job, but why he didn't call for a full-court press on a turnover-prone opponent with just eight seconds left puzzled me and had me yelling at the TV (something I handn't done in a long time.) Thought it was just a horrible coaching decision. As for the players, I definitely think too many weaknesses have been exposed thus far for me to think we'll finish in the top half of the BE, let alone earn a trip to the the Big Dance.
 
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JohnnyFan post=447629 said:
Obviously a very bad loss with significant dance implications.  I will share two perspectives........"The Ugly Truth" and "Rose Colored Glasses"  

Th Ugly Truth
  • During the offseason, we lost more talent than we brought in.  
  • This loss means we have to win double-digit conference games with more than one upset win on the road
  • If we don't win this year, recruiting gets even harder  
  • We had more rebounds, more assists, more blocked shots, more steals, and less turnovers than our opponent and we STILL lost.  That's almost impossible.  But, we found a way by committing enough bonehead fouls and shooting just 50% from the free throw line.  
Rose Colored Glasses
  • While not at all sufficient, Soriano and Wheeler are trending in the right direction
  • Today's loss came without our best player and that will be considered by the dance committee.
  • Who knows, maybe Pitt has a decent season and ultimately minimizes the damage of this loss. 
  • We have Posh Alexander and Julian Champagnie
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Dear Santa. Please get Johnnyfan new glasses for christmas :)
 
dee post=447643 said:
You need to start wondering if this team will actually make the tournament.
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I haven't  started wondering, I've stopped wondering 
 
Redken. I hear ya.     I was there n couldn’t believe they were to get that shot off near the basket

expectations lowered to n i t 
 
I haven't watched every minute of every game, so maybe I missed something.  Why has Coburn been limited to 0 - 3 minutes for several games in a row?  I remember one "off" game he had several weeks ago, but otherwise he's not getting enough PT to play himself onto the bench.  Defensive liability?  Doesn't hustle in practice?  Late for bus call?  We have long stretches of offensive droughts game after game and the kid gets zero opportunities.  It's not coming up too often on the board, so I'm guessing I missed something.
 
stjohnschris post=447701 said:
I haven't watched every minute of every game, so maybe I missed something.  Why has Coburn been limited to 0 - 3 minutes for several games in a row?  I remember one "off" game he had several weeks ago, but otherwise he's not getting enough PT to play himself onto the bench.  Defensive liability?  Doesn't hustle in practice?  Late for bus call?  We have long stretches of offensive droughts game after game and the kid gets zero opportunities.  It's not coming up too often on the board, so I'm guessing I missed something.
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No doubt there's more to it than this, but shooting 25% on both FG and 3-point attempts and looking lost at times hasn't helped his seeing more PT, especially for someone who came here with a rep as a great outside shooter.
 
redken wrote:

No doubt there's more to it than this, but shooting 25% on both FG and 3-point attempts and looking lost at times hasn't helped his seeing more PT, especially for someone who came here with a rep as a great outside shooter.

Redken, in fact Coburn is shooting 36% from three, 80% from foul line which is pretty consistent with what he shot at Hofstra. He needs to play more period, a pet peeve of mine. Inexplicable.
 
NCJ - other than being in CMA's doghouse, the only other thing I can think of is that potentially he's not practicing or watching film with the team on a regular basis due to academics.

I do think its worth seeing him for 4-8 min a half  and see what he can do.

Right now the sample size is a head scratcher given that very few can shoot it well.
 
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RedStormNC post=447740 said:
NCJ - other than being in CMA's doghouse, the only other thing I can think of is that potentially he's not practicing or watching film with the team on a regular basis due to academics.

I do think its worth seeing him for 4-8 min a half  and see what he can do.

Right now the sample size is a head scratcher given that very few can shoot it well. 
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I'd agree that he was excused from some practices during finals. If true , hope he gets more run soon
 
NCJohnnie post=447738 said:
redken wrote:

No doubt there's more to it than this, but shooting 25% on both FG and 3-point attempts and looking lost at times hasn't helped his seeing more PT, especially for someone who came here with a rep as a great outside shooter.

Redken, in fact Coburn is shooting 36% from three, 80% from foul line which is pretty consistent with what he shot at Hofstra. He needs to play more period, a pet peeve of mine. Inexplicable.
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Thanks for the correction, NCJohnnie. Looks like the web source I cited was less than primo. But based on all the pre-season chatter we heard, I was hoping he'd start for us and assumed he'd satisfactorily fill a big need, but for whatever reason, that hasn't been the case to date.
 
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