(POST GAME) (MSG) Connecticut, Sun., Feb. 13, 12 Noon, FOX

[beast of the east]

 

 

[we are sju]

Bootsy 40 point game against Duke in OT loss was 50/50 split with fans 
Duke not close and we were good

 

[redmannorth]

When Billy Singleton graduated I figured his record of getting his shot blocked would never be broken. Then a few short years later Anthony Glover broke it. In fairness Glover played one more year. Thought that record was as safe as Cy Young’s most wins in a career. But in just under 2 seasons Wusu has broken the record. Much like Cy Young the record for most shots getting blocked should be called the Wusu. If stays 4 years record will be untouchable 

I am not saying you are crapping on Wusu but he is the least of our problems. 
Once again he is a 300 plus recruit who is doing far more than he should be asked to because of injuries to two key players. 
He is not a pg but is doing admirably in the role he is asked to play. I wish we had six Dylan Wusu's on our team.  

 

[we are sju]

Just amazed how how little elevation he gets on his drives
Liked Glover and Singleton as well
They got blocked often

 

[monte]

Unless we have a top 25ish team,
we're not going to draw much more than opposing teams at MSG. Especially Nova and UCONN, since they  are in relatively close proximity and their fans travel well.  Leaving the crowd at somewhere around 50/50. All the marketing in the world wont
change that, only winning will.  

Bingo. I know we all remember being at games at a packed MSG, with the majority being our fans, and the atmosphere was electric. Sure, it was a long time ago. But as it's been discussed on here, having a winning team brings out the college basketball fans to the Garden who maybe aren't St. John's fans, but pull for us when we have a good team.

Yep. Our fan base alone has barely been enough to fill CA during the best of times. In order to fill MSG we need all New Yorkers, not just our fans. And there have always been, and continue to be, plenty of college basketball fans in NYC who would love to jump on the bandwagon of a successful Johnnie team. I know plenty of them(I've had season tickets with many of them over the years) and I'm sure that you do as well. We can call them "fair weather fans", but our program has always relied on those fans for support. And let me tell you, those fans are generally younger then our average fan, and make a hell of a ruckus at games.  I'm no marketing expert. The school can try promotions and gimmicks, that will work to some degree, but ultimately only winning works in any significant way. 

 

[GardenCity62]

What does the terrible attendance for the game indicate. Are even UCONN fed up with SJU?
 

 

[beast of the east]

Unless we have a top 25ish team,
we're not going to draw much more than opposing teams at MSG. Especially Nova and UCONN, since they  are in relatively close proximity and their fans travel well.  Leaving the crowd at somewhere around 50/50. All the marketing in the world wont
change that, only winning will.  

Our followers are essentially like Mets fans, who largely stay home unless the team is in a pennant race.   

What I find amusing re: the Mets is that although those people consider themselves diehard Mets fans missed coming out the last several seasons to see deGrom pitch at a level equal to the very best pitchers of all time.   In august and september his Cy Young seasons, I was able to buy stubhub tickets behind home plate for $25 - fees included.   On one such night, 9-11-18 I believe, there was not only a wonderful pre game ceremony honoring 9-11 first responders, with hundreds of them present ringing the perimeter of the field, buy deGrom pitched a gem that clinched the Cy Young award for him.   

New York is a tough place, and IMO, people attend games only when teams are very good, unlike primarily college towns.   

There was a guy on here who passed away, SN Muse, who sat next to me at MSG, and really understood the nuances of basketball.  While SJU was his adopted team and he had 4 season tickets, he enjoyed watching basketball, win or lose.  He had really good insights.   His family kept up the season tickets, and I commented to his son yesterday how much I enjoyed listening to his comments during the same.   Not surprisingly, his son's comments during the game are smart and contain insight also.  Smart basketball stuff.

To me, there is a game within a game, and outcomes are not everything to me, although they are very important.   For teams, the Vince Lombardi quotes about winning can be very important.    I don't think Lombardi would accept Lambeau field being half empty because he had a .500 team, and to my knowledge their fans show up win or lose.

This isn't a debate, but it kind of sucks that we are in New York, and by and large can only draw when we win big.   Other schools don't have the same problem, and that puts us at a competitive disadvantage. 












 

 

[monte]

Unless we have a top 25ish team,
we're not going to draw much more than opposing teams at MSG. Especially Nova and UCONN, since they  are in relatively close proximity and their fans travel well.  Leaving the crowd at somewhere around 50/50. All the marketing in the world wont
change that, only winning will.  

Our followers are essentially like Mets fans, who largely stay home unless the team is in a pennant race.   

What I find amusing re: the Mets is that although those people consider themselves diehard Mets fans missed coming out the last several seasons to see deGrom pitch at a level equal to the very best pitchers of all time.   In august and september his Cy Young seasons, I was able to buy stubhub tickets behind home plate for $25 - fees included.   On one such night, 9-11-18 I believe, there was not only a wonderful pre game ceremony honoring 9-11 first responders, with hundreds of them present ringing the perimeter of the field, buy deGrom pitched a gem that clinched the Cy Young award for him.

New York is a tough place, and IMO, people attend games only when teams are very good, much higher % than other college towns.   

There was a guy on here who passed away, SN Muse, who sat next to me at MSG, and really understood the nuances of basketball.  While SJU was his adopted team and he had 4 season tickets, he enjoyed watching basketball, win or lose.  He had really good insights.   His family kept up the season tickets, and I commented to his son yesterday how much I enjoyed listening to his comments during the same.   Not surprisingly, his son's comments during the game are smart and contain insight also.  Smart basketball stuff.

To me, there is a game within a game, and outcomes are not everything to me, although they are very important.   For teams, the Vince Lombardi quotes about winning can be very important.    I don't think Lombardi would accept Lambeau field being half empty because he had a .500 team, and to my knowledge their fans show up win or lose.

This isn't a debate, but it kind of sucks that we are in New York, and by and large can only draw when we win big.   Other schools don't have the same problem, and that puts us at a competitive disadvantage. 

 

We don't have to win "big", but we do have win. We had moments under Lavin and Mullin. Not nearly enough moments, but moments. I grew up attending Yankee games in an empty Yankee stadium in the early 70s. It's all the same. New Yorkers have lots of options. They'll come out in droves and overpay for a good Broadway show. You can't get them to a bad show for free. Not sure it's as different elsewhere, except maybe in small towns where they have limited options. I have no clue what attendance was like at, say, Duke, before K arrived. My guess is that during lean years at most schools in decent sized cities, attendance drops off significantly. Human nature. 

 

[Section9]

I really believe that we lose many close games because, when the chips are down, we do not collectively as a team have a very high basketball IQ and make a lot of unforced errors and/or use poor judgment.

Agree 100%. And we don’t have guys who are particularly good at putting the ball in the basket. Who on this teams best skill is going to get their own shot? No one. Well it might be Smiths best skill but he hasn’t been able to do it at this level.

Smith is not close to a one on one player especially at this level (lacks quickness).

I guess he pulled the wool over the staff's eyes when he lit it up against us when he was at Vermont.  

Anderson brought in Smith and Coburn to remedy our outside shooting woes, except for Smith at Indiana, neither one has measured up to expectations.  You can throw Soriano into the mixer and say that none of the mid majors Anderson brought in have done much.
 

 

[QueensBoy]

It amazes me the hate that Wusu receives.  Has he had bad games? Sure. Has he made some poor decisions? Sure   But to keep pointing him out as a reason for losing is NUTS. 

Let's look at some per game stats:
3rd in minutes, 4th in points (he's taken the 4th most shots this season) 2nd in assists (Posh is first), 4th in rebounds, 3rd in steals, 2nd in turnovers (Posh is first), 1st in 3PT shooting with Wheeler, better FG% than Mathis, Champ, Smith, Tareq...

Let's just talk about his play without stats:

He is their best Pick and roll player...there's a reason he has the ball in his hands late in the shot clock (with Posh in the game) - he's taller, stronger, can shoot off the dribble, and go to the basket with both hands (something that really hurts Posh).  

He regularly creates easy baskets for others in the PnR. He would have had 3 more assist yesterday if the big guys could catch.  

I think he's the smartest player on the court for SJU. He regularly is the only one that recognizes mismatches. Yesterday he noticed that he could post up whenever he had Cole on him...unfortunately his teammates never noticed...

He's able to defend 4-5 positions because of his strength, something that no one talks about.  Think about how many times he's switched onto the other teams center and holds his own!  Sometimes the best option is to have Wusu defend the big man (front when possible) and have Stanley or EN on the help side.   

Now there are absolutely things he needs to work on - he tries to make the "homerun" play way too often which contributes to his turnover rate.  He has to learn that driving into 7 footers won't work given his lack of jumping ability.  He needs to jump stop, pump fake and kick out or utilize a floater.  He looks to be a bit out of shape, always looking exhausted.  Free throws...

The turnovers while annoying are a part of the game.  He has the ball in his hands a lot, as does Posh. It only makes sense that they have the most turnovers.  I don't hear 10% of the turnover noise for Posh even though their assist to TO ratio is essentially the same (1.93 for Posh, 1.79 for DAW) 

I believe it's unfair to criticize the kid so much - the recency bias is clear. Everyone remembers the late game mistakes but forget all the great plays he made the first 35 minutes.  Or the late game heroics in other games... When you have the ball in your hands you will be the hero or Villian, and he's ok with that.  Has to be commended and all of these mistakes will only help him next year.  

If you want to blame people for the loss look at our "star" who's shooting 41% from the field and our coach who can't recognize when Soriano shouldn't be on the court (Not Joel's fault he's stuck defending a faster player.)  









 

 

[SLYFOXX1968]

With all the discussions about how poor our Attendance has been at the Garden and to a extent , CA .   The Athletic Department ought to assign Survey duty to the Tobin Business School for Students to pursue as a Case Study .    It would serve  2 purposes . Find out really why MSG and CA attendance is below Par and , create a real World Assignment for Business School students .                                        I have my own thoughts .  First , much of the previous fan base was made up of Seniors like myself , who experience nothing but , 20 Win Seasons and certain Tournament appearances .                 Many of us , were Season Ticket holders and serious fans .  We have aged , many of us have moved out of the Area in Retirement or , passed to the Biggest Tournament in the next Life .  So , that was a substantial loss of fandom .        The other is , if you were a Student or new fan , during the last great SJ Team of Artest , Barkley , etc , you are now 40 years old or more !   You haven’t seen a glimpse of great SJ bssketball in those 2 Decades .  Fan interest wanes when a Team , any team doesn’t Win for such a long time .        Lastly , are Sunday Noon time or late afternoon games at MSG , a good time to attend a NYC basketball event ? On SB Sunday no less ?      Especially when our team isn’t Winning .                  Lavin’s teams had highly ranked players mostly and they performed decently but , under achieved  . DLO was a very good scorer but , the ranked talent never made a serious run .   Mullin had Ponds for 3 years and he was  fun to watch and they did play in the NCAA 1 year .  Now that Ponds is gone , we might realize how good he was to single handedly carry our Team .                   And , how we could use a Player like him now .           Anyway , these are my opinions on the oft discussed weak attendance .   It’s much more than seat backs or , making CA emulate Dante’s Inferno .   Until the Team rises above bottom or mid tier BE level , nothing about Attendance will change . 

 

[ManhattAn1]

Another issue hurting attendance is ticket prices.  When I was younger I could show a High School Or College ID at MSG and get in for $10-20.  Now the cheapest ticket is $55.  

 

[ctstorm]

It amazes me the hate that Wusu receives.  Has he had bad games? Sure. Has he made some poor decisions? Sure   But to keep pointing him out as a reason for losing is NUTS. 

Let's look at some per game stats:
3rd in minutes, 4th in points (he's taken the 4th most shots this season) 2nd in assists (Posh is first), 4th in rebounds, 3rd in steals, 2nd in turnovers (Posh is first), 1st in 3PT shooting with Wheeler, better FG% than Mathis, Champ, Smith, Tareq...

Let's just talk about his play without stats:

He is their best Pick and roll player...there's a reason he has the ball in his hands late in the shot clock (with Posh in the game) - he's taller, stronger, can shoot off the dribble, and go to the basket with both hands (something that really hurts Posh).  

He regularly creates easy baskets for others in the PnR. He would have had 3 more assist yesterday if the big guys could catch.  

I think he's the smartest player on the court for SJU. He regularly is the only one that recognizes mismatches. Yesterday he noticed that he could post up whenever he had Cole on him...unfortunately his teammates never noticed...

He's able to defend 4-5 positions because of his strength, something that no one talks about.  Think about how many times he's switched onto the other teams center and holds his own!  Sometimes the best option is to have Wusu defend the big man (front when possible) and have Stanley or EN on the help side.   

Now there are absolutely things he needs to work on - he tries to make the "homerun" play way too often which contributes to his turnover rate.  He has to learn that driving into 7 footers won't work given his lack of jumping ability.  He needs to jump stop, pump fake and kick out or utilize a floater.  He looks to be a bit out of shape, always looking exhausted.  Free throws...

The turnovers while annoying are a part of the game.  He has the ball in his hands a lot, as does Posh. It only makes sense that they have the most turnovers.  I don't hear 10% of the turnover noise for Posh even though their assist to TO ratio is essentially the same (1.93 for Posh, 1.79 for DAW) 

I believe it's unfair to criticize the kid so much - the recency bias is clear. Everyone remembers the late game mistakes but forget all the great plays he made the first 35 minutes.  Or the late game heroics in other games... When you have the ball in your hands you will be the hero or Villian, and he's ok with that.  Has to be commended and all of these mistakes will only help him next year.  

If you want to blame people for the loss look at our "star" who's shooting 41% from the field and our coach who can't recognize when Soriano shouldn't be on the court (Not Joel's fault he's stuck defending a faster player.)  




 

Wonderful post! Imagine if Champ (who is a fine player) had Wusu's heart. 

 

[Amaseinyourface]

It amazes me the hate that Wusu receives.  Has he had bad games? Sure. Has he made some poor decisions? Sure   But to keep pointing him out as a reason for losing is NUTS. 

Let's look at some per game stats:
3rd in minutes, 4th in points (he's taken the 4th most shots this season) 2nd in assists (Posh is first), 4th in rebounds, 3rd in steals, 2nd in turnovers (Posh is first), 1st in 3PT shooting with Wheeler, better FG% than Mathis, Champ, Smith, Tareq...

Let's just talk about his play without stats:

He is their best Pick and roll player...there's a reason he has the ball in his hands late in the shot clock (with Posh in the game) - he's taller, stronger, can shoot off the dribble, and go to the basket with both hands (something that really hurts Posh).  

He regularly creates easy baskets for others in the PnR. He would have had 3 more assist yesterday if the big guys could catch.  

I think he's the smartest player on the court for SJU. He regularly is the only one that recognizes mismatches. Yesterday he noticed that he could post up whenever he had Cole on him...unfortunately his teammates never noticed...

He's able to defend 4-5 positions because of his strength, something that no one talks about.  Think about how many times he's switched onto the other teams center and holds his own!  Sometimes the best option is to have Wusu defend the big man (front when possible) and have Stanley or EN on the help side.   

Now there are absolutely things he needs to work on - he tries to make the "homerun" play way too often which contributes to his turnover rate.  He has to learn that driving into 7 footers won't work given his lack of jumping ability.  He needs to jump stop, pump fake and kick out or utilize a floater.  He looks to be a bit out of shape, always looking exhausted.  Free throws...

The turnovers while annoying are a part of the game.  He has the ball in his hands a lot, as does Posh. It only makes sense that they have the most turnovers.  I don't hear 10% of the turnover noise for Posh even though their assist to TO ratio is essentially the same (1.93 for Posh, 1.79 for DAW) 

I believe it's unfair to criticize the kid so much - the recency bias is clear. Everyone remembers the late game mistakes but forget all the great plays he made the first 35 minutes.  Or the late game heroics in other games... When you have the ball in your hands you will be the hero or Villian, and he's ok with that.  Has to be commended and all of these mistakes will only help him next year.  

If you want to blame people for the loss look at our "star" who's shooting 41% from the field and our coach who can't recognize when Soriano shouldn't be on the court (Not Joel's fault he's stuck defending a faster player.)  










 

I think I found my first podcast guest. Amen!!!

 

[monte]

Unless we have a top 25ish team,
we're not going to draw much more than opposing teams at MSG. Especially Nova and UCONN, since they  are in relatively close proximity and their fans travel well.  Leaving the crowd at somewhere around 50/50. All the marketing in the world wont
change that, only winning will.  

Our followers are essentially like Mets fans, who largely stay home unless the team is in a pennant race.   

What I find amusing re: the Mets is that although those people consider themselves diehard Mets fans missed coming out the last several seasons to see deGrom pitch at a level equal to the very best pitchers of all time.   In august and september his Cy Young seasons, I was able to buy stubhub tickets behind home plate for $25 - fees included.   On one such night, 9-11-18 I believe, there was not only a wonderful pre game ceremony honoring 9-11 first responders, with hundreds of them present ringing the perimeter of the field, buy deGrom pitched a gem that clinched the Cy Young award for him.   

New York is a tough place, and IMO, people attend games only when teams are very good, unlike primarily college towns.   

There was a guy on here who passed away, SN Muse, who sat next to me at MSG, and really understood the nuances of basketball.  While SJU was his adopted team and he had 4 season tickets, he enjoyed watching basketball, win or lose.  He had really good insights.   His family kept up the season tickets, and I commented to his son yesterday how much I enjoyed listening to his comments during the same.   Not surprisingly, his son's comments during the game are smart and contain insight also.  Smart basketball stuff.

To me, there is a game within a game, and outcomes are not everything to me, although they are very important.   For teams, the Vince Lombardi quotes about winning can be very important.    I don't think Lombardi would accept Lambeau field being half empty because he had a .500 team, and to my knowledge their fans show up win or lose.

This isn't a debate, but it kind of sucks that we are in New York, and by and large can only draw when we win big.   Other schools don't have the same problem, and that puts us at a competitive disadvantage. 


 

One last thought on your comment about SN Muse(RIP); there are those who attend games for the same reasons you and Muse attend/attended games; to discuss and analyze the game within the game. To use a theater analogy again, it's like those who attend theater (or visit a museum) for the artistic value. Then there are those who attend games and shows purely for the entertainment value. When the product on the court or on stage is not high quality, you loose those who are attending for the entertainment value. 

 

[IDRAFT]

This will be unpopular here, facts can be hard to swallow. As to attendance.

Of course, the better the team the higher it will go. Thank you everyone for that ongoing insight! But the program is where it is at this time. And also, it's not 1960, it's 2022 and things change. For many fans (and recent alumni) of SJU going to MSG is not a perk it is a hassle. So, they stay home, or lose interest in the program. And as far as recruiting, does anyone seriously think a current 18-year-old kid cares about playing at MSG? You know what facts fly in the face of that? SJUs actual recruiting. 

With the MSG part of the schedule now completed we can look at all the attendance figures. Some things to consider about these numbers:

1. - MSG is conveniently located - for the other teams fans. More so than any other venue in the Big East. That adds to MSG figures.
2. - The Kansas game at UBS was NOT part of the season ticket package. 

Now some facts.

12/3 - Kansas - UBS - 9,769
12/18 - Pitt - MSG - 5,177
12/22 - Seton Hall - MSG - 6,692
1/16 - Georgetown - MSG - 5,161
2/8 - Villanova  - MSG - 9,712
2/13 - UCONN - MSG - 6,567

Hmm. The game with the highest attendance wasn't even included in the season ticket package, which is a VERY significant piece of the MSG numbers. Same non-25 team for all of these games so let's stop with that already.

SJU needs to move on and stop clinging to the past. The people pining for MSG mostly live in Florida and like the fact that the games there conjure up old memories for them as they watch on TV. The actual fans of the program primarily live in parts of the Metropolitan area where a game at MSG is just an added hassle. Why make it harder for them to attend when there is a better option for the fans and the University?

And I know that is a harsh statement for any fan who happens to live in certain parts of the area and MSG happens to be a much better choice for them. I get that. But the University has to look at the overall picture and shouldn't be scheduling games for the minority of fans. I'm sure there are graduates of Seton Hall who live in Nassau County now. For them Seton Hall usually plays a game at MSG every December. They play the rest in New Jersey except for the game we give them at MSG. 

If SJU is going to play any games at MSG they need to upgrade the OOC and play some of those games at MSG and see what happens. It will certainly be easier to get a home and home with a high-level program using MSG. Get the Big East games out of there as there are better options and they have to play wherever SJU schedules them. The school needs new fans, the ones they had dwindle every year.

Those new fans went to UBS - and the data is right above to see.


 

 

[IDRAFT]

It amazes me the hate that Wusu receives.  Has he had bad games? Sure. Has he made some poor decisions? Sure   But to keep pointing him out as a reason for losing is NUTS. 

Let's look at some per game stats:
3rd in minutes, 4th in points (he's taken the 4th most shots this season) 2nd in assists (Posh is first), 4th in rebounds, 3rd in steals, 2nd in turnovers (Posh is first), 1st in 3PT shooting with Wheeler, better FG% than Mathis, Champ, Smith, Tareq...

Let's just talk about his play without stats:

He is their best Pick and roll player...there's a reason he has the ball in his hands late in the shot clock (with Posh in the game) - he's taller, stronger, can shoot off the dribble, and go to the basket with both hands (something that really hurts Posh).  

He regularly creates easy baskets for others in the PnR. He would have had 3 more assist yesterday if the big guys could catch.  

I think he's the smartest player on the court for SJU. He regularly is the only one that recognizes mismatches. Yesterday he noticed that he could post up whenever he had Cole on him...unfortunately his teammates never noticed...

He's able to defend 4-5 positions because of his strength, something that no one talks about.  Think about how many times he's switched onto the other teams center and holds his own!  Sometimes the best option is to have Wusu defend the big man (front when possible) and have Stanley or EN on the help side.   

Now there are absolutely things he needs to work on - he tries to make the "homerun" play way too often which contributes to his turnover rate.  He has to learn that driving into 7 footers won't work given his lack of jumping ability.  He needs to jump stop, pump fake and kick out or utilize a floater.  He looks to be a bit out of shape, always looking exhausted.  Free throws...

The turnovers while annoying are a part of the game.  He has the ball in his hands a lot, as does Posh. It only makes sense that they have the most turnovers.  I don't hear 10% of the turnover noise for Posh even though their assist to TO ratio is essentially the same (1.93 for Posh, 1.79 for DAW) 

I believe it's unfair to criticize the kid so much - the recency bias is clear. Everyone remembers the late game mistakes but forget all the great plays he made the first 35 minutes.  Or the late game heroics in other games... When you have the ball in your hands you will be the hero or Villian, and he's ok with that.  Has to be commended and all of these mistakes will only help him next year.  

If you want to blame people for the loss look at our "star" who's shooting 41% from the field and our coach who can't recognize when Soriano shouldn't be on the court (Not Joel's fault he's stuck defending a faster player.)  

1,000 percent on Soriano. Putting him in at the 7:56 mark was painful, and so head scratching. By the time he got him back out it was an 11-0 run and game over.








 

 

[monte]

This will be unpopular here, facts can be hard to swallow. As to attendance.

Of course, the better the team the higher it will go. Thank you everyone for that ongoing insight! But the program is where it is at this time. And also, it's not 1960, it's 2022 and things change. For many fans (and recent alumni) of SJU going to MSG is not a perk it is a hassle. So, they stay home, or lose interest in the program. And as far as recruiting, does anyone seriously think a current 18-year-old kid cares about playing at MSG? You know what facts fly in the face of that? SJUs actual recruiting. 

With the MSG part of the schedule now completed we can look at all the attendance figures. Some things to consider about these numbers:

1. - MSG is conveniently located - for the other teams fans. More so than any other venue in the Big East. That adds to MSG figures.
2. - The Kansas game at UBS was NOT part of the season ticket package. 

Now some facts.

12/3 - Kansas - UBS - 9,769
12/18 - Pitt - MSG - 5,177
12/22 - Seton Hall - MSG - 6,692
1/16 - Georgetown - MSG - 5,161
2/8 - Villanova  - MSG - 9,712
2/13 - UCONN - MSG - 6,567

Hmm. The game with the highest attendance wasn't even included in the season ticket package, which is a VERY significant piece of the MSG numbers. Same non-25 team for all of these games so let's stop with that already.

SJU needs to move on and stop clinging to the past. The people pining for MSG mostly live in Florida and like the fact that the games there conjure up old memories for them as they watch on TV. The actual fans of the program primarily live in parts of the Metropolitan area where a game at MSG is just an added hassle. Why make it harder for them to attend when there is a better option for the fans and the University?

And I know that is a harsh statement for any fan who happens to live in certain parts of the area and MSG happens to be a much better choice for them. I get that. But the University has to look at the overall picture and shouldn't be scheduling games for the minority of fans. I'm sure there are graduates of Seton Hall who live in Nassau County now. For them Seton Hall usually plays a game at MSG every December. They play the rest in New Jersey except for the game we give them at MSG. 

If SJU is going to play any games at MSG they need to upgrade the OOC and play some of those games at MSG and see what happens. It will certainly be easier to get a home and home with a high-level program using MSG. Get the Big East games out of there as there are better options and they have to play wherever SJU schedules them. The school needs new fans, the ones they had dwindle every year.

Those new fans went to UBS - and the data is right above to see.

 

You make a valid case, but a few things:

-MSG attracts a much broad sector of fans, not just us old fans
-UBS will never have the cache that MSG has as a "home away from home" for us
-Using one game at UBS, and the first college game ever played there, is not nearly a large enough sample size to compare attendance to MSG. But we should schedule a few more games there next season instead of at CA, and see how we do
-I'm moving out of Manhattan in the next few months and will actually be closer to UBS then MSG, so I have no personal stake in whether or not we play games at MSG. 

I have no problem, as I mentioned, with us testing the waters a bit more at UBS, but I still think  MSG needs to be our primary home away from home. 

 

[Section3]

I know posters were very high on Wusu coming into the season, but imo this has not been a great year for him.  His stats from today's game look decent and many (including the TV announcers) have mentioned he had a strong first half.  Personally, I think we need an upgrade.  A guy of Wusu's ability should not be playing 30+ minutes, nor handling the ball with such frequency.   I hope he stays next year, but as more of a role player and less of a main cog.

As a side note, the Johnnies' 11-0 run came when Wusu went to the bench.

I think the intent was for him to be 6-7 man but Smith didn’t perform to initial expectations. Would agree that best spot for him is coming off bench. Still offers a lot.

 

[Knight]

As for me, Wusu can play on my team any day.  Champy has great heart and guts, but if you’re injured and playing on fumes, you will get up and down results.  The team needs a game plan that takes advantage of what the players skills and abilities are.  Too often this team, that was advertised as a defensive minded team, has looked lost.

I think Mike Cragg has figured out what needs to be done to put fannies in the seats, and I expect that to happen at the beginning of next season.