(POST-GAME) Marquette, Tues. Jan. 1, 7pm, FS1 / 970AM

[quote="JackofVirginia" post=311419][quote="we are sju" post=311212]Only complaint is Williams has to get Dixon / Trimble mins.[/quote]


You took the words right out of my mouth. Each game Williams has shown he won't hurt us playing important minutes. To me he plays as if he has been around for a while. On defense he helps out and offensively he plays and scores with confidence. Deserves more playing time, not going to hurt you Chris.[/quote]

Agree on Trinble as I think he has maxed out his ability. However, Dixon has excellent athleticism and can score. I this the staff can work with him on his defense and he will eventually be quite a nice player.
 
[quote="Manhattan1" post=311425]My favorite part of the evening was being told by a fellow fan to sit down for giving them an ovation after a Marquette TO after back to back dunks.

Still have some miserable people (Fans) who show up at these games.[/quote]

Should have asked for his handle. I bet he posts here :)
 
The best part is the improvement in Mullin as a coach. For the team , he motivates before the game, inspires during the game and changes momentum with timely timeouts and substitutions.
 
[quote="thetux1" post=311429]I’m starting to think Marvin Clark has a future as an NBA small forward.[/quote]

His best shot will be overseas. He would be huge defensive liability and would not be able to drive to the basket. Will be a solid college player that can have a very long and profitable career overseas. He is undersized to play the stretch 4 or 5 in the NBA.
 
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[quote="stjohnnie75" post=311420][quote="we are sju" post=311401][quote="IDRAFT" post=311397]Most everything was said so just a couple of quick notes.

- The defense on Powell and Howard was nothing short of fantastic.

- Overall, Simon has raised his level of play a lot since Conference play has began. Forget Precious (O.K. don't FORGET him) Simon is our most important recruit for next year.

- I don't care if it was Mullin or St. Jean, or Ron Linfonte, whoever was in charge of the bench last night, the coaching was outstanding. Excellent plays out of timeouts, and SJU took timeouts at the exact right time every time Marquette made a move. Great use of nine guys, and the staff got Keita just enough minutes to be a help without pushing a lineup that would be more out of sync at this point.

- Anyone who said this freshman class was a washout might want to rethink their position. The only thing holding Williams back is that we are loaded with guard talent ahead of him.[/quote]

Trimble plays D and plays hard. Mostly he was playing to counteract the terrible D that Dixon was playing.
Now with Keita back and Dixon not really playing, I would have Williams get all of the Trimble / Dixon minutes[/quote]

Not this year. On switches, Trimble often defends the other team’s PF or C. He might not grab a ton of rebounds but he does find a body to box out. I think giving Trimble around 10 mins a game to replace Simon/Heron is using him perfectly. He also doesn’t turn the ball over or force shots. Next year is a different story where I can see Williams getting a lot more burn.[/quote]

I get Trimble value but now that we have Keita back his role not as necessary. Plus more of the fact I really like Williams than any anti Trimble sentiment.
 
[quote="Rob" post=311430]I'm not giving up on Dixon contributing this year in the BE portion of the schedule. There will be games and matchups where his offense is a big boost off the bench. And if he continues working on D and playmaking there is no reason he cannot be a solid bench contributor now and starter down the road.[/quote]

His role has RIGHTFULLY been diminished
 
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[quote="we are sju" post=311444][quote="Rob" post=311430]I'm not giving up on Dixon contributing this year in the BE portion of the schedule. There will be games and matchups where his offense is a big boost off the bench. And if he continues working on D and playmaking there is no reason he cannot be a solid bench contributor now and starter down the road.[/quote]

His role has RIGHTFULLY been diminished[/quote]

Not giving up on Dixon just yet, but now that we're in league play he does look to be one of those kids who may be just a notch below a Big East level player. Hopefully it's an adjustment period and he can still give us 5-10 minutes of solid play moving forward.
 
[quote="Moose" post=311435][quote="Manhattan1" post=311425]My favorite part of the evening was being told by a fellow fan to sit down for giving them an ovation after a Marquette TO after back to back dunks.

Still have some miserable people (Fans) who show up at these games.[/quote]

Should have asked for his handle. I bet he posts here :)[/quote]

Yeah I'd venture a guess that it's one of the dicks who posts here
 
[quote="Monte" post=311450][quote="we are sju" post=311444][quote="Rob" post=311430]I'm not giving up on Dixon contributing this year in the BE portion of the schedule. There will be games and matchups where his offense is a big boost off the bench. And if he continues working on D and playmaking there is no reason he cannot be a solid bench contributor now and starter down the road.[/quote]

His role has RIGHTFULLY been diminished[/quote]

Not giving up on Dixon just yet, but now that we're in league play he does look to be one of those kids who may be just a notch below a Big East level player. Hopefully it's an adjustment period and he can still give us 5-10 minutes of solid play moving forward.[/quote]

Athletically, physically and defensively not a BE player
Spot up shooter would be his best use but we have enough guys that can knock down threes.
 
[quote="we are sju" post=311452][quote="Monte" post=311450][quote="we are sju" post=311444][quote="Rob" post=311430]I'm not giving up on Dixon contributing this year in the BE portion of the schedule. There will be games and matchups where his offense is a big boost off the bench. And if he continues working on D and playmaking there is no reason he cannot be a solid bench contributor now and starter down the road.[/quote]

His role has RIGHTFULLY been diminished[/quote]

Not giving up on Dixon just yet, but now that we're in league play he does look to be one of those kids who may be just a notch below a Big East level player. Hopefully it's an adjustment period and he can still give us 5-10 minutes of solid play moving forward.[/quote]

Athletically, physically and defensively not a BE player
Spot up shooter would be his best use but we have enough guys that can knock down threes.[/quote]

Don't disagree, but similar things have been said about Trimble and he seems to have found a niche. Thankfully we don't need to rely on Dixon this year, so any contribution is a bonus.
 
[quote="Monte" post=311455][quote="we are sju" post=311452][quote="Monte" post=311450][quote="we are sju" post=311444][quote="Rob" post=311430]I'm not giving up on Dixon contributing this year in the BE portion of the schedule. There will be games and matchups where his offense is a big boost off the bench. And if he continues working on D and playmaking there is no reason he cannot be a solid bench contributor now and starter down the road.[/quote]

His role has RIGHTFULLY been diminished[/quote]

Not giving up on Dixon just yet, but now that we're in league play he does look to be one of those kids who may be just a notch below a Big East level player. Hopefully it's an adjustment period and he can still give us 5-10 minutes of solid play moving forward.[/quote]

Athletically, physically and defensively not a BE player
Spot up shooter would be his best use but we have enough guys that can knock down threes.[/quote]

Don't disagree, but similar things have been said about Trimble and he seems to have found a niche. Thankfully we don't need to rely on Dixon this year, so any contribution is a bonus.[/quote]

Body type much different.
I think Dixon's shortcomings and Keita injury led to Trimble getting minutes.
Really would like to see Williams get consistent 12-15 mins a game
 
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Marquette is a terrible matchup for Dixon. They have long guys that both shoot over defenders and post up down low. Getting shot over is Dixon's weakest area and he isn't going to be an interior defender against bigger guys. But there are other teams where he will be a better matchup and can do good things. You guys keep knocking Trimble but he plays solid. He came in and had an immediate defensive stop and plays within his role. If he sticks around for 4 years he could be a really mature player that we will need the next two seasons after losing A LOT even if we bring in a big recruiting class. Williams and Figueroa the next couple of seasons can provide a lot of excitement but still need role players and maturity.
 
I got the chance to catch up with highly-touted NY’ers Andre Curbelo and Zed Key, both were guests of St. John’s.

The Johnnies won that matchup and move to 13-1 on the season (1-1 in Big East).

Sold out crowd, plus the win over the ranked opponent, that left recruits impressed.

“Yes it was definitely an impressive game to watch. St. John’s has a great staff and an extremely talented mix of players that makes them one of the top teams in the country,” Zed Key said.

As for Andre Curbelo, he’s a top-100 prospect. He was left really impressed by the win.

“I really like the passion that the coaching staff shows towards their players, especially Coach Greg (St. Jean) with Shamorie Ponds. Big wins over teams like Marquette shows this team is definitely on the rise and the program is headed in the right direction,” Curbelo said.

Chris Mullin also had top-70 senior Lester Quinones in attendance, as well as 2021 five-star Jonathan Kuminga.

https://stockrisers.com/2019/01/02/...sed-after-st-johns-win-over-ranked-marquette/
 
[quote="Paul Massell" post=311458]Marquette is a terrible matchup for Dixon. They have long guys that both shoot over defenders and post up down low. Getting shot over is Dixon's weakest area and he isn't going to be an interior defender against bigger guys. But there are other teams where he will be a better matchup and can do good things. You guys keep knocking Trimble but he plays solid. He came in and had an immediate defensive stop and plays within his role. If he sticks around for 4 years he could be a really mature player that we will need the next two seasons after losing A LOT even if we bring in a big recruiting class. Williams and Figueroa the next couple of seasons can provide a lot of excitement but still need role players and maturity.[/quote]

I never knocked Trimble. Been saying for the longest time that I thought he could be a very solid role player for (hopefully) 4 years. Still feel that way. And agree that while Dixon seems overmatched against certain opponents, he'll have some good moments for us moving forward this year, and hopefully that will carry over to next year. Of the 3, I do think that Williams is the most Big East-ready athletically, but the other 2 have better all around skill sets at this point. I expect all three will contribute situationily as the season progresses. Keeping in mind that foul trouble and injuries can also factor in to the equation.
 
[quote="Paul Massell" post=311458]Marquette is a terrible matchup for Dixon. They have long guys that both shoot over defenders and post up down low. Getting shot over is Dixon's weakest area and he isn't going to be an interior defender against bigger guys. But there are other teams where he will be a better matchup and can do good things. You guys keep knocking Trimble but he plays solid. He came in and had an immediate defensive stop and plays within his role. If he sticks around for 4 years he could be a really mature player that we will need the next two seasons after losing A LOT even if we bring in a big recruiting class. Williams and Figueroa the next couple of seasons can provide a lot of excitement but still need role players and maturity.[/quote]

The starting 5 are going to play around 32 minutes each. Not to toot his own horn but WE ARE NOSTRADAMUS pretty much predicted this in pre season.
Figure health and foul trouble permitting Keita gets -12-15 mins going forward
That only leaves about 15-17 mins a game for Williams, Trimble and Dixon
Would like Williams to get majority of those(12-15) with matchups dictating Trimble / Dixon leftover minutes.
 
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[quote="we are sju" post=311444][quote="Rob" post=311430]I'm not giving up on Dixon contributing this year in the BE portion of the schedule. There will be games and matchups where his offense is a big boost off the bench. And if he continues working on D and playmaking there is no reason he cannot be a solid bench contributor now and starter down the road.[/quote]

His role has RIGHTFULLY been diminished[/quote]

In a couple of weeks we should be at full strength with the best starting 5 in the conference. The team will legitimately be able to go 8 deep with Keita, Williams and Dixon off the bench. Trimble will be a valuable 8th or 9th man depending on the opponent. Neither Dixon nor Trimble defend as hard as Williams but they are better shooters at the moment. Mullin may finally have a bench. We are one precious recruit away from restocking rather than rebuilding.
 
[quote="austour" post=311427][quote="IDRAFT" post=311404]Feel compelled to add one more item. Having the team ready to roll and play focused so soon after the crazy Seton Hall game is easier said than done. And for 18-23 year old kids much easier said than done. Think about how hard it was for US to let it all go.

Impressive.[/quote]

Interesting point. I think that one key advantage of this team, despite the fact that there are many new parts, is that the top players, besides LJ who is wise beyond his experience anyway, are all of upperclassman age and in their third to fifth year in an NCAA program. Ponds/3, Heron/3, Simon/4, Clark/5. Even Keita/3 and Dixon/3 have some experience. Of course relying on transfers greatly abets this situation but still it's good to have experience.[/quote]

All excellent points.

On LJ, the seamless transition he's had to this level is incredible and I think sometimes we tend to take it for granted when it goes as well as it has for him.

You take a look at his game log and it's not just the upside production (which is clear) but the consistency that is frankly staggering. Been in double digits in 12 of 14 games, never below 8, has grabbed 7 or more boards in 8 of 14 and is leading the team by over a full RPG, and is shooting 54/40 which is insane.

There isn't a single game he hasn't shown up, the closest thing to an off game is probably GT and his numbers in that game are pretty similar to what SJU held Powell to on Saturday.

Add to all this he's a plus plus defender (shutdown on ball as well as team concept), plays with seemingly relentless energy, and does a lot of extra things almost every game.

None of this is easy to do and he has made it look easy. Outstanding player and we are lucky to have him at SJU.
 
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[quote="SJU1512" post=311472][quote="austour" post=311427][quote="IDRAFT" post=311404]Feel compelled to add one more item. Having the team ready to roll and play focused so soon after the crazy Seton Hall game is easier said than done. And for 18-23 year old kids much easier said than done. Think about how hard it was for US to let it all go.

Impressive.[/quote]

Interesting point. I think that one key advantage of this team, despite the fact that there are many new parts, is that the top players, besides LJ who is wise beyond his experience anyway, are all of upperclassman age and in their third to fifth year in an NCAA program. Ponds/3, Heron/3, Simon/4, Clark/5. Even Keita/3 and Dixon/3 have some experience. Of course relying on transfers greatly abets this situation but still it's good to have experience.[/quote]

All excellent points.

On LJ, the seamless transition he's had to this level is incredible and I think sometimes we tend to take it for granted when it goes as well as it has for him.

You take a look at his game log and it's not just the upside production (which is clear) but the consistency that is frankly staggering. Been in double digits in 12 of 14 games, never below 8, has grabbed 7 or more boards in 8 of 14 and is leading the team by over a full RPG, and is shooting 54/40 which is insane.

There isn't a single game he hasn't shown up, the closest thing to an off game is probably GT and his numbers in that game are pretty similar to what SJU held Powell to on Saturday.

Add to all this he's a bigtime defender and plays with seemingly relentless energy.

None of this is easy to do and he has made it look easy. Outstanding player and we are lucky to have him at SJU.[/quote]

Next year this is LJ's team and he could easily average 20 ppg for us.
 
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