(POST-GAME) Butler, Tues. Feb. 12, 8:30pm, CBS SN / 970AM
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[quote="docbutler" post=322770]What really irked me during the playing and aftermath of the Butler game, was this constant broadcast coverage that voiced incredulity that we could play so poorly on Saturday against Providence,...and then be the same team that was tasking Butler. This was being said while Heron was running wild on the court and practically winning the game single handedly. I mean...they can't really be that stupid, right? To his credit, the only person on the game broadcast to point that out as significant, was Lappas. The post game idiots said nothing at all. It was the same story with Providence when Ponds didn't play. Not a soul is pointing out that 4 of our losses were somewhat tough breaks. Two games against league bottom dwellers with major players unavailable...and the Seton Hall and Villanova debacles.[/quote]
On Inside College Basketball last Saturday, Jerry Palm said that he is basically not counting our losses to Depaul or Providence when filling out his bracket, because the injured players came back strong (Heron hadn't yet, but said he would, if Heron did - he passed that test on Tuesday). Hence, why his bracket has been much higher on us then most others'. We'll see how the committee sees it, come Selection Sunday.
On Inside College Basketball last Saturday, Jerry Palm said that he is basically not counting our losses to Depaul or Providence when filling out his bracket, because the injured players came back strong (Heron hadn't yet, but said he would, if Heron did - he passed that test on Tuesday). Hence, why his bracket has been much higher on us then most others'. We'll see how the committee sees it, come Selection Sunday.
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[quote="SJU61982" post=322772][quote="docbutler" post=322770]What really irked me during the playing and aftermath of the Butler game, was this constant broadcast coverage that voiced incredulity that we could play so poorly on Saturday against Providence,...and then be the same team that was tasking Butler. This was being said while Heron was running wild on the court and practically winning the game single handedly. I mean...they can't really be that stupid, right? To his credit, the only person on the game broadcast to point that out as significant, was Lappas. The post game idiots said nothing at all. It was the same story with Providence when Ponds didn't play. Not a soul is pointing out that 4 of our losses were somewhat tough breaks. Two games against league bottom dwellers with major players unavailable...and the Seton Hall and Villanova debacles.[/quote]
On Inside College Basketball last Saturday, Jerry Palm said that he is basically not counting our losses to Depaul or Providence when filling out his bracket, because the injured players came back strong (Heron hadn't yet, but said he would, if Heron did - he passed that test on Tuesday). Hence, why his bracket has been much higher on us then most others'. We'll see how the committee sees it, come Selection Sunday.[/quote]
They don't care...they aren't St. John's fans.
On Inside College Basketball last Saturday, Jerry Palm said that he is basically not counting our losses to Depaul or Providence when filling out his bracket, because the injured players came back strong (Heron hadn't yet, but said he would, if Heron did - he passed that test on Tuesday). Hence, why his bracket has been much higher on us then most others'. We'll see how the committee sees it, come Selection Sunday.[/quote]
They don't care...they aren't St. John's fans.
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=322787][quote="SJU61982" post=322772][quote="docbutler" post=322770]What really irked me during the playing and aftermath of the Butler game, was this constant broadcast coverage that voiced incredulity that we could play so poorly on Saturday against Providence,...and then be the same team that was tasking Butler. This was being said while Heron was running wild on the court and practically winning the game single handedly. I mean...they can't really be that stupid, right? To his credit, the only person on the game broadcast to point that out as significant, was Lappas. The post game idiots said nothing at all. It was the same story with Providence when Ponds didn't play. Not a soul is pointing out that 4 of our losses were somewhat tough breaks. Two games against league bottom dwellers with major players unavailable...and the Seton Hall and Villanova debacles.[/quote]
On Inside College Basketball last Saturday, Jerry Palm said that he is basically not counting our losses to Depaul or Providence when filling out his bracket, because the injured players came back strong (Heron hadn't yet, but said he would, if Heron did - he passed that test on Tuesday). Hence, why his bracket has been much higher on us then most others'. We'll see how the committee sees it, come Selection Sunday.[/quote]
They don't care...they aren't St. John's fans.[/quote]
My guess is that they will give us some consideration, but not full. In the end, they probably discount one loss from the combination of officiating error @ Seton Hall and injuries vs DePaul and Providence.
On Inside College Basketball last Saturday, Jerry Palm said that he is basically not counting our losses to Depaul or Providence when filling out his bracket, because the injured players came back strong (Heron hadn't yet, but said he would, if Heron did - he passed that test on Tuesday). Hence, why his bracket has been much higher on us then most others'. We'll see how the committee sees it, come Selection Sunday.[/quote]
They don't care...they aren't St. John's fans.[/quote]
My guess is that they will give us some consideration, but not full. In the end, they probably discount one loss from the combination of officiating error @ Seton Hall and injuries vs DePaul and Providence.
SJU14
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[quote="weathermannyc" post=322789][quote="Mike Zaun" post=322787][quote="SJU61982" post=322772][quote="docbutler" post=322770]What really irked me during the playing and aftermath of the Butler game, was this constant broadcast coverage that voiced incredulity that we could play so poorly on Saturday against Providence,...and then be the same team that was tasking Butler. This was being said while Heron was running wild on the court and practically winning the game single handedly. I mean...they can't really be that stupid, right? To his credit, the only person on the game broadcast to point that out as significant, was Lappas. The post game idiots said nothing at all. It was the same story with Providence when Ponds didn't play. Not a soul is pointing out that 4 of our losses were somewhat tough breaks. Two games against league bottom dwellers with major players unavailable...and the Seton Hall and Villanova debacles.[/quote]
On Inside College Basketball last Saturday, Jerry Palm said that he is basically not counting our losses to Depaul or Providence when filling out his bracket, because the injured players came back strong (Heron hadn't yet, but said he would, if Heron did - he passed that test on Tuesday). Hence, why his bracket has been much higher on us then most others'. We'll see how the committee sees it, come Selection Sunday.[/quote]
They don't care...they aren't St. John's fans.[/quote]
My guess is that they will give us some consideration, but not full. In the end, they probably discount one loss from the combination of officiating error @ Seton Hall and injuries vs DePaul and Providence.[/quote]
Realistically, they don’t take any of this into account because every team has a game or two just like this so it’s a wash.
On Inside College Basketball last Saturday, Jerry Palm said that he is basically not counting our losses to Depaul or Providence when filling out his bracket, because the injured players came back strong (Heron hadn't yet, but said he would, if Heron did - he passed that test on Tuesday). Hence, why his bracket has been much higher on us then most others'. We'll see how the committee sees it, come Selection Sunday.[/quote]
They don't care...they aren't St. John's fans.[/quote]
My guess is that they will give us some consideration, but not full. In the end, they probably discount one loss from the combination of officiating error @ Seton Hall and injuries vs DePaul and Providence.[/quote]
Realistically, they don’t take any of this into account because every team has a game or two just like this so it’s a wash.
[quote="SJU14" post=322793][quote="weathermannyc" post=322789][quote="Mike Zaun" post=322787][quote="SJU61982" post=322772][quote="docbutler" post=322770]What really irked me during the playing and aftermath of the Butler game, was this constant broadcast coverage that voiced incredulity that we could play so poorly on Saturday against Providence,...and then be the same team that was tasking Butler. This was being said while Heron was running wild on the court and practically winning the game single handedly. I mean...they can't really be that stupid, right? To his credit, the only person on the game broadcast to point that out as significant, was Lappas. The post game idiots said nothing at all. It was the same story with Providence when Ponds didn't play. Not a soul is pointing out that 4 of our losses were somewhat tough breaks. Two games against league bottom dwellers with major players unavailable...and the Seton Hall and Villanova debacles.[/quote]
On Inside College Basketball last Saturday, Jerry Palm said that he is basically not counting our losses to Depaul or Providence when filling out his bracket, because the injured players came back strong (Heron hadn't yet, but said he would, if Heron did - he passed that test on Tuesday). Hence, why his bracket has been much higher on us then most others'. We'll see how the committee sees it, come Selection Sunday.[/quote]
They don't care...they aren't St. John's fans.[/quote]
My guess is that they will give us some consideration, but not full. In the end, they probably discount one loss from the combination of officiating error @ Seton Hall and injuries vs DePaul and Providence.[/quote]
Realistically, they don’t take any of this into account because every team has a game or two just like this so it’s a wash.[/quote]
I thought that I remember hearing or reading that each conference is allowed to submit items like this for consideration.
On Inside College Basketball last Saturday, Jerry Palm said that he is basically not counting our losses to Depaul or Providence when filling out his bracket, because the injured players came back strong (Heron hadn't yet, but said he would, if Heron did - he passed that test on Tuesday). Hence, why his bracket has been much higher on us then most others'. We'll see how the committee sees it, come Selection Sunday.[/quote]
They don't care...they aren't St. John's fans.[/quote]
My guess is that they will give us some consideration, but not full. In the end, they probably discount one loss from the combination of officiating error @ Seton Hall and injuries vs DePaul and Providence.[/quote]
Realistically, they don’t take any of this into account because every team has a game or two just like this so it’s a wash.[/quote]
I thought that I remember hearing or reading that each conference is allowed to submit items like this for consideration.
[quote="ron " post=322788][quote="bamafan" post=322771]Just like we don't mention after beating teams that were missing players.[/quote]
Like Villanova last year.[/quote]
We were missing #2 player for that game as well. Doesn’t diminish fact we beat them on their home court.
Like Villanova last year.[/quote]
We were missing #2 player for that game as well. Doesn’t diminish fact we beat them on their home court.
[quote="stjohnnie75" post=322756][quote="Paultzman" post=322551]It was significant that Heron shot 10 free throws v average of four last night. It seems he seldom got calls on bumps in lane in previous games & would be nice to see him get benefit of doubt more often. Of course each game differs, but his FTs really impacted game.[/quote]
He probably would be averaging 4 more points per game if half of the bumps on him per game were called.[/quote]. Neither Ponds or Heron get even a fair amount of foul calls when they go to the hoop . It’s a disgrace upon BE Officialdom . But, Howard on Marquette gets calls when he is 30 feet from the hoop , plus Howard gets away with bumping guys as they blow by him on Defense . Ponds gets fouled on every drive to the hoop and of late , he is barely getting to the foul line . It’s a critical factor in close games . No wonder Mullin is out of his mind with these Officials . Bad officiating started with the Seton Hall game that was stolen.by a horrible call. Let’s see how many more foul calls Villanova gets this weekend .
He probably would be averaging 4 more points per game if half of the bumps on him per game were called.[/quote]. Neither Ponds or Heron get even a fair amount of foul calls when they go to the hoop . It’s a disgrace upon BE Officialdom . But, Howard on Marquette gets calls when he is 30 feet from the hoop , plus Howard gets away with bumping guys as they blow by him on Defense . Ponds gets fouled on every drive to the hoop and of late , he is barely getting to the foul line . It’s a critical factor in close games . No wonder Mullin is out of his mind with these Officials . Bad officiating started with the Seton Hall game that was stolen.by a horrible call. Let’s see how many more foul calls Villanova gets this weekend .
[quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=322801]The other side of the coin is we are 3-0 in OT, if Im not mistaken. Each of those games could have easily gone the other way.[/quote]
3-0 in OT, 6-1 in games decided by 3 points or less and/OT (though Cal hit a shot at the buzzer to make 3 the final margin). Of course, we all know what the one outlier game was....
3-0 in OT, 6-1 in games decided by 3 points or less and/OT (though Cal hit a shot at the buzzer to make 3 the final margin). Of course, we all know what the one outlier game was....
we are sju
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[quote="SJU61982" post=322815][quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=322801]The other side of the coin is we are 3-0 in OT, if Im not mistaken. Each of those games could have easily gone the other way.[/quote]
3-0 in OT, 6-1 in games decided by 3 points or less and/OT (though Cal hit a shot at the buzzer to make 3 the final margin). Of course, we all know what the one outlier game was....[/quote]
Wow sign of a good coach
3-0 in OT, 6-1 in games decided by 3 points or less and/OT (though Cal hit a shot at the buzzer to make 3 the final margin). Of course, we all know what the one outlier game was....[/quote]
Wow sign of a good coach
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[quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=322882]Clark had a great offensive game, but he only had 2 rebounds in 41 minutes. Everyone is harping about Keita, but he had 2 rebounds in 4 minutes. Clark has to do better.[/quote]. Agree completely Richard. I am sure Izzo told Marvin that a few years ago too. If he doesn’t rebound , he has to give us more than a 3-12 shooting game and 5 fouls . He is very capable of doing more but, must bring it against Nova .