Phil Greene
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stjohnschris
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+1 on Masiello...he messed up, got embarrassed, but don't throw his skill set under the bus. He's a NY guy, I'll bet he wants to stay local, and we could use someone to kick some ass and get what's left of our roster motivated. Hell let's find Matt Brust too and get this team in the weight room. Unmotivated, soft play comes from a soft coach.
westchesterjoe
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When student athletes are not attending classes regularly, especially in the Spring semester, it's not a good sign.
MBoutchatski
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would suck to see another player transfer. Always thought greene got a bad rep on this site. He's a useful player, and one of the only guys who can consistently hit threes when put in the right position. It's not his fault Lavin plays him at the point...
Class of 72
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Where did his wifie transfer to?
I said this on an earlier thread a few weeks ago. I feel that when Lavin came here he went out and recruited the highest rated players that he could. He did this without much though as to how these players and their games would mesh or compliment each other on the court. The players that he got were ranked high but they were not at that level where they were complete players. He was able to recruit guys at that next level lower who while ranked somewhat high each had some major deficiencies in their games. I think that Lavin just wanted to up the talent level as much as he could and then he would figure the rest out later. What you have is bunch of players who were rated high coming out of high School but their skill sets just do not compliment each other at all. In my opinion, at this point, I don't care who leaves. Blow the whole damn thing up and start over. Get players in here who's games compliment each other and will mesh on the court. I think Lavin realizes this and that's why he's talking about 2015 and 2016 recruiting. He's blowing this whole thing up. He knows he approached this all wrong. Just my opinion.
ct_redstorm
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James Madison, she is from the same town as me and is good friends with my sister. If Phil goes anywhere it would be a Chicago area school, highly doubt he leaves though.
Criticizing the 2011 class is complete BS. I think what he wanted was to be able to field a team of 5 and have a couple folks to come in and give them some rest. Was it the ideal recruiting strategy? No but given that he was on the job less than 7 months before the early signing period he did what he had to do. He signed 9 guys to that class with less than a year of being back in college basketball. He took chances because he had to and you're right, they didn't pay off, both with Amir, Jakarr and Norvel not qualifying and with issues of Nuri. Thrown in Polee's transfer, Stith's quitting and Lavin's cancer and the best laid plans, well you know the rest. I mean anyone who was around at that time was shocked he was able to accomplish what he did. That's the furthest from his missteps. You blow the who thing up now and you will get the exact same thing. He needs to mitigate the issues and have some sense of continuity going into next year.Still allows for a large class and new approach the following year. If he needs more than 4 available rides per year in the next two classes to reach his goals, well I don't even want to imagine that could be the case.
Respect your opinion and disagree, particularly that "he knows he approached this all wrong". I am not in the fire Lavin school but watching his teams going back to UCLA, there has always seemed to be a lack of complementarity between his players (team is less than the sum of its parts), particularly in half-court offense. This year we have also witnessed a consistent breakdown in team defense; i.e. cutters in to the lane or ball reversal have opened the baseline corners for any competent three point shooter from any opponent all year long. Rysheed at his best helped a lot with the team defense but we had too much athleticism and size to stay so bad for so long. I think you may be right in that he is going towards a more traditional structure of key star players and matching role players (Keady influence?) but I have never seen any evidence that he can coach this approach.
Agree with first part of your post. Early on he went out and got best available(per rankings) players in a hurry. He did so under adverse circumstances and did a great job IMO, although I thought he should have held on to Ron Roberts. However every successful coach knows that good complimentary players and continuity are always integral parts of a successful team and program. The fact that Lavin is just figuring that after being a coach for 10 years is mind boggling.