Old Guys Talking Hoops

1. Having anyone named DeBusschere involved with our program would be great, my all time favorite Knick, and a class act and gentleman, I'd love to see it happen if he is a high D-1 player.

2. Knicks and St. John's have shared lot over the years besides the original, the old and new Gardens. Joe Lapchick as coaches and a number go Johnny players played for the Knicks. The legendary Captain Willis Reed was an assistant coach to Lou for a while. Never forgetting the McGuire that was a really great early NBA player Dick. Frank McGuire apparently no Knick connection, but definitely multiple connections to SJU, as a player, as a coach for and against and many wins at the Garden.

3. Chaminade, per my daughter who went to Holy Cross in Worcester sent a decent number of kids to HC as did Regis HS in Manhattan.
 
fuchsia post=446901 said:
matt105 post=446894 said:
College doubleheaders are not uncommon at the Garden . They usually involve 4 local teams .Manhattan - Fordham games were often tied in with an SJU game . It would be great to have more of these in the near future since they would guarantee good MSG attendance . 
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Against my NYU Violet.  Long ago student bodies would assemble at four different subway stations and march in to the Garden on 49th and 8th.
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.. when James Madison was President
 
I watched LUHI vs Chaminade last night.  Debusschere held to 5 points.  While he is one of the best players on LI, do not see him as a D1 recruit.  Seems to be about 5'10 and could not handle LUHI's athleticism and length.  The 2 LUHI guards (Providence commit Jayden Pierre (18 points) and Jayden Reid (25 points, class of '23) are really good.

Chaminade is ranked #2 on LI and LUHI being #1.

LUHI 77 - Chaminade 45
Box Score:
https://scores.newsday.com/sports/highschool/game/basketball-boys/12276
 
fuchsia post=446901 said:
matt105 post=446894 said:
College doubleheaders are not uncommon at the Garden . They usually involve 4 local teams .Manhattan - Fordham games were often tied in with an SJU game . It would be great to have more of these in the near future since they would guarantee good MSG attendance . 
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Against my NYU Violet.  Long ago student bodies would assemble at four different subway stations and march in to the Garden on 49th and 8th.
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I was an Jasper undergrad in those days and the only game that mattered was the Fordham game  at the Garden.  Drinking started at noon and then storming the IRT #1 to Columbus Circle and a "parade" down 8th Avenue to the old Garden, ending in a Grand Entrance.  Remeber an article in the local papers the next day about it being an "real old fashioned" Game without the sugar because as the Manhattan students marched in to the Garden, the court was hit by a whiskey bottle, snowballs and an orange.    
 
Barry Kramer.  I think he went on to become a dentist.  Stan McKensie was also on that team.  He had a nine or ten year run in the NBA.  He became an attorney and died in his sleep earlier this year.

NYU had some outstanding Division I teams back in the day before they decided to turn off the lights.
 
newsman13 post=446951 said:
Barry Kramer.  I think he went on to become a dentist.  Stan McKensie was also on that team.  He had a nine or ten year run in the NBA.  He became an attorney and died in his sleep earlier this year.

NYU had some outstanding Division I teams back in the day before they decided to turn off the lights.
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Barry sat next to me in freshman chemistry which I attended once.  Stan McKenzie was a friend and fraternity brother (played 7 years in NBA).  His wife Vashtai (delivered the benediction at one of the Democrat convention nights) is the first female bishop in the AME Church and Stan is very active in church affairs.  I knew the late Happy Hairston as well.  Barry Kramer went to law school and eventually became a judge in upstate New York.  He and Pat Riley both went to Linton High in Schenectady, a few years apart.

Mal Graham, was a year behind McKenzie, and was the Celtics #1 draft choice in 1967, had his career cut short by illness, went to law school, and also became a judge.Robert Malcolm Graham (born February 23, 1945) is an American former professional basketball player. He played two seasons in the National Basketball Association (NBA).A 6'1" guard from New York University, Graham won two NBA championships as a member of the Boston Celtics from 1967 to 1969. He scored 327 points in his career. He is currently a judge on the Massachusetts Appeals Court.Graham's promising career was cut short by a medical condition just as the first era of Celtic domination of the NBA was coming to an end. He retired from basketball and became a prominent jurist. His playing days ended with those of Hall of Famer, Bill Russell.There was a possibility of Duke having senior Art Heyman, juniors Jeff Mullin and Barry Kramer, and sophomore Bill Bradley, on the same team at the same time.  Now that's recruiting.
 
fuchsia post=446959 said:
newsman13 post=446951 said:
Barry Kramer.  I think he went on to become a dentist.  Stan McKensie was also on that team.  He had a nine or ten year run in the NBA.  He became an attorney and died in his sleep earlier this year.

NYU had some outstanding Division I teams back in the day before they decided to turn off the lights.
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Barry sat next to me in freshman chemistry which I attended once.  Stan McKenzie was a friend and fraternity brother (played 7 years in NBA).  His wife Vashtai (delivered the benediction at one of the Democrat convention nights) is the first female bishop in the AME Church and Stan is very active in church affairs.  I knew the late Happy Hairston as well.  Barry Kramer went to law school and eventually became a judge in upstate New York.  He and Pat Riley both went to Linton High in Schenectady, a few years apart.

Mal Graham, was a year behind McKenzie, and was the Celtics #1 draft choice in 1967, had his career cut short by illness, went to law school, and also became a judge.Robert Malcolm Graham (born February 23, 1945) is an American former professional basketball player. He played two seasons in the National Basketball Association (NBA).A 6'1" guard from New York University, Graham won two NBA championships as a member of the Boston Celtics from 1967 to 1969. He scored 327 points in his career. He is currently a judge on the Massachusetts Appeals Court.Graham's promising career was cut short by a medical condition just as the first era of Celtic domination of the NBA was coming to an end. He retired from basketball and became a prominent jurist. His playing days ended with those of Hall of Famer, Bill Russell.There was a possibility of Duke having senior Art Heyman, juniors Jeff Mullin and Barry Kramer, and sophomore Bill Bradley, on the same team at the same time.  Now that's recruiting.
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The 1969-73 Knick teams are described as one of the smartest teams ever. Your post calls to mind that the Lakers, with Hairston (NYU) Jim McMillian (Columbia), and Chamberlain (Kansas and self proclaimed genius) were pretty smart too.
 
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Oh gee I thought this was a thread about tomorrow's game but when I clicked to go to the last page of the thread it must have sent me to the wrong place.  /media/kunena/emoticons/unsure.png
 
The DeBusschere thread and the wildly off-topic posts on the Pitt Game thread have been merged here.  Feel free to continue the discussion about the good old days on this thread.
 
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NYU did away with all intercollegiate sports in the early 70s when the school went bankrupt and nearly folded.

They came back as D3 in the 80s and have remained there ever since. 

In the 90s, the men’s hoops went to the D3 Final Four.
And the women won the 1997 D3 championship on a last-second layup while trailing all game long.

I was there and it was awesome:
[URL][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v[/URL]=qJEWHqJf4Ug[/url]
 
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nycfan post=446947 said:
I watched LUHI vs Chaminade last night.  Debusschere held to 5 points.  While he is one of the best players on LI, do not see him as a D1 recruit.  Seems to be about 5'10 and could not handle LUHI's athleticism and length.  The 2 LUHI guards (Providence commit Jayden Pierre (18 points) and Jayden Reid (25 points, class of '23) are really good.

Chaminade is ranked #2 on LI and LUHI being #1.

LUHI 77 - Chaminade 45
Box Score:
https://scores.newsday.com/sports/highschool/game/basketball-boys/12276
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The Jayden(s) are both very good.
 
MainMan post=446981 said:
NYU did away with all intercollegiate sports in the early 70s when the school went bankrupt and nearly folded.

They came back as D3 in the 80s and have remained there ever since. 

In the 90s, the men’s hoops went to the D3 Final Four.
And the women won the 1997 D3 championship on a last-second layup while trailing all game long.

I was there and it was awesome:
[URL][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v[/URL]=qJEWHqJf4Ug[/url]
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Marsha Harris, the player that hit the winning shot, went to the same high school,  August Martin, that I did.  Beginning n the early 80's  they have a nice run as one of the top girls programs for the PSAL.  Harris was heavily recruited and could have gone D1, but wasn't thinking about playing basketball in college but planning on studying pre-med in a top program and selected NYU.  She wound up playing basketball there, wins a National Championship and is a doctor (surgeon I think).
 
Beast of the East post=446995 said:
Was August Martin formerly Andrew Jackson?

We don't usually think of Bob Cousy as a NYC guy, but he went to Jackson, before I was born.

Andrew Jackson became Campus Magnet High School after it closed which is just a bunch of smaller schools that share the same building and usually the same athletic teams. Boo Harvey was Andrew Jackson's all time leading scorer.
 
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Trip down memory lane with all of the early days of prominence for NYU BB. What's next, CCNY and Nat Holman and LIU and Clair Bee? 

I think the whole Mecca  slogan for the Garden came about because of the college basketball powerhouses that was NYC mens college BB, and had nothing to do with the Knicks. Perhaps Boxing made it a Mecca too!

All of the best teams in the country wanted to play at the Garden and of course the NIT, until it fell into solid second place behind the NCAAs.

 
 
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