Official 2014-2015 Schedule Thread

[Avon Barksdale]

oh gosh I am sorry for my realistic outlook on our schedule guys!

Perhaps you will give me a "mulligan" and allow me to change my point of view regarding our schedule so I can appease all of the redmen.com posters living in the Land of Make Believe happy today.

I am very excited that we are playig in the pre-season NIT with potential matchups in MSG against perrenial powerhouses Minnesota & Gonzaga.

Gonzaga should win the WCC again next year and be top 25 all year. They are well coached and always seem to be a pest for SJU.

If we play Minnesota, hopefully it will be different from the last time we played them, the Masacre in 1997 when they beat us 77-38. That Minnesota team went to the Final 4 though. I do not think the Minnesota team we have a potential matchup with will achieve that kind of success next year, even with young Pitino at the helm. It will definitely be a highlight game on our schedule!

Additionally, we will play Syracuse in the Carrier Dome. I think it'll be close, but Syracuse might have more fans in the Dome for that game than they did when they played us in MSG in December!

We are still waiting back to see if Yeshiva, Nassau Community College, CW Post and Christ the King HS have open games to fit us onto their schedules.

We will really be rolling if we get home games agaist these guys to fluff up our record! All we will need to happen next is Mike Francesa declare that St Johns is a dangerous team after seeing we are 14-2 entering Big East play and tell us how good"the kid" is that "scores a lot of points"....we will really be on our way then.

So the best case scenario I see would be if we do not lose any more transfers and Lavin can somehow fill the roster with serviceable players, if we do not embarrass ourselves in the Not-So-Big East next season (11-7 or better), and we lose 2 OOC games total, we will be on the right side of the bubble come selection sunday - but a lot would have to break in our favor for that to happen.

 

[Avon Barksdale]

very underwhelming OOC schedule again.
it would be nice to play a better OOC schedule to compensate for our soft league schedule.
Come Feb & March it wont really be fun sitting on the bubble having one "quality win" like this year because we feasted on the little sisters of the poor all year.
It would be nice to add a game vs a PAC 12 team and why not add UConn ? They woud love to play in MSG....or at least another quality NCAA Tourney caliber team?
This is not the Big East of past years and we are not going to build a tournament resume playing butler and depaul.

"very underwhelming OOC schedule again".
Again? Did I miss the 2014-15 schedule? Can you list the entire OOC schedule for us? Do you think the SOS of Villanova, Georgetown, Xavier, etc. will have ANY impact on our SOS? I would like to see a MSG game against Kentucky!
Any chance the Maven can arrange it?

Since we dont play Duke any more it would be ideal to play a home and home with a Kentucky every year.

Its good to see you starting to wake up and smell the toast.

 

[thakid]

Is the schedule announced or set in stone yet? We had OOC games against 2 top 3 seeds this year. Unfortunately our Barclays Classic had cupcakes for big conference teams in it (one of whom we lost to). We had a decent SOS this past year. If we have Cuse, Minnesota, and Gonzaga, then I think one more top 25 caliber team would be a very very solid OOC. Sure not the toughest possible, but it'd be very solid. I think adding a Pac 12 team would be a great idea. As for Avon's suggestion, of UConn, I think that's a terrible idea. Uconn and Syracuse turn out more fans than we do at MSG...we should be making these true HOME games against marquee programs, so I say target top programs who won't dilute the St. John's/NY rooting contingent for our side...adding say Louisville and Oregon or something like that would be ideal, IMO. Obviously part of the goal is filling MSG too so I'm fine with one of UConn and Syracuse, but adding both is almost like adding 2 tough road games...home and home games with those schools, until we become a consistent winner (unless?), are really all games where we our guys feel like there's no support for them in the stands. Sad but true.

 

[Avon Barksdale]

Is the schedule announced or set in stone yet? We had OOC games against 2 top 3 seeds this year. Unfortunately our Barclays Classic had cupcakes for big conference teams in it (one of whom we lost to). We had a decent SOS this past year. If we have Cuse, Minnesota, and Gonzaga, then I think one more top 25 caliber team would be a very very solid OOC. Sure not the toughest possible, but it'd be very solid. I think adding a Pac 12 team would be a great idea. As for Avon's suggestion, of UConn, I think that's a terrible idea. Uconn and Syracuse turn out more fans than we do at MSG...we should be making these true HOME games against marquee programs, so I say target top programs who won't dilute the St. John's/NY rooting contingent for our side...adding say Louisville and Oregon or something like that would be ideal, IMO. Obviously part of the goal is filling MSG too so I'm fine with one of UConn and Syracuse, but adding both is almost like adding 2 tough road games...home and home games with those schools, until we become a consistent winner (unless?), are really all games where we our guys feel like there's no support for them in the stands. Sad but true.

Your point is well taken but is a game against Oregon where we will get 7,000 in MSG or a game against the defending champion UConn in a sold-out MSG more attractive to a prospective recruit?

 

[kranmars]

oh gosh I am sorry for my realistic outlook on our schedule guys!

Perhaps you will give me a "mulligan" and allow me to change my point of view regarding our schedule so I can appease all of the redmen.com posters living in the Land of Make Believe happy today.

I am very excited that we are playig in the pre-season NIT with potential matchups in MSG against perrenial powerhouses Minnesota & Gonzaga.

Gonzaga should win the WCC again next year and be top 25 all year. They are well coached and always seem to be a pest for SJU.

If we play Minnesota, hopefully it will be different from the last time we played them, the Masacre in 1997 when they beat us 77-38. That Minnesota team went to the Final 4 though. I do not think the Minnesota team we have a potential matchup with will achieve that kind of success next year, even with young Pitino at the helm. It will definitely be a highlight game on our schedule!

Additionally, we will play Syracuse in the Carrier Dome. I think it'll be close, but Syracuse might have more fans in the Dome for that game than they did when they played us in MSG in December!

We are still waiting back to see if Yeshiva, Nassau Community College, CW Post and Christ the King HS have open games to fit us onto their schedules.

We will really be rolling if we get home games agaist these guys to fluff up our record! All we will need to happen next is Mike Francesa declare that St Johns is a dangerous team after seeing we are 14-2 entering Big East play and tell us how good"the kid" is that "scores a lot of points"....we will really be on our way then.

So the best case scenario I see would be if we do not lose any more transfers and Lavin can somehow fill the roster with serviceable players, if we do not embarrass ourselves in the Not-So-Big East next season (11-7 or better), and we lose 2 OOC games total, we will be on the right side of the bubble come selection sunday - but a lot would have to break in our favor for that to happen.

That is a lot of precious internet space you used and you still missed (or avoided) the point. The schedule is not out yet, so why bash it?

 

[SJUalum98]

Is the schedule announced or set in stone yet? We had OOC games against 2 top 3 seeds this year. Unfortunately our Barclays Classic had cupcakes for big conference teams in it (one of whom we lost to). We had a decent SOS this past year. If we have Cuse, Minnesota, and Gonzaga, then I think one more top 25 caliber team would be a very very solid OOC. Sure not the toughest possible, but it'd be very solid. I think adding a Pac 12 team would be a great idea. As for Avon's suggestion, of UConn, I think that's a terrible idea. Uconn and Syracuse turn out more fans than we do at MSG...we should be making these true HOME games against marquee programs, so I say target top programs who won't dilute the St. John's/NY rooting contingent for our side...adding say Louisville and Oregon or something like that would be ideal, IMO. Obviously part of the goal is filling MSG too so I'm fine with one of UConn and Syracuse, but adding both is almost like adding 2 tough road games...home and home games with those schools, until we become a consistent winner (unless?), are really all games where we our guys feel like there's no support for them in the stands. Sad but true.

Your point is well taken but is a game against Oregon where we will get 7,000 in MSG or a game against the defending champion UConn in a sold-out MSG more attractive to a prospective recruit?

Sadly, it's more attractive for UConn's recruits.

 

[Avon Barksdale]

That is a lot of precious internet space you used and you still missed (or avoided) the point. The schedule is not out yet, so why bash it?

assuming that Minnesota, Gonzaga and the Cuse are the three major OOC games, what do you think of the schedule then?

 

[ccnobz]

I believe STJ would need to win a game or 2 to even gaurantee playing the Zags and or Minn

 

[thakid]

Is the schedule announced or set in stone yet? We had OOC games against 2 top 3 seeds this year. Unfortunately our Barclays Classic had cupcakes for big conference teams in it (one of whom we lost to). We had a decent SOS this past year. If we have Cuse, Minnesota, and Gonzaga, then I think one more top 25 caliber team would be a very very solid OOC. Sure not the toughest possible, but it'd be very solid. I think adding a Pac 12 team would be a great idea. As for Avon's suggestion, of UConn, I think that's a terrible idea. Uconn and Syracuse turn out more fans than we do at MSG...we should be making these true HOME games against marquee programs, so I say target top programs who won't dilute the St. John's/NY rooting contingent for our side...adding say Louisville and Oregon or something like that would be ideal, IMO. Obviously part of the goal is filling MSG too so I'm fine with one of UConn and Syracuse, but adding both is almost like adding 2 tough road games...home and home games with those schools, until we become a consistent winner (unless?), are really all games where we our guys feel like there's no support for them in the stands. Sad but true.

Your point is well taken but is a game against Oregon where we will get 7,000 in MSG or a game against the defending champion UConn in a sold-out MSG more attractive to a prospective recruit?

Agreed the latter is, but only if we win. I'm obviously biased here but would rather play Duke again if we are adding back another program who fills MSG. we actually have shown success against them at MSG even though they turn out the fans too, plus I think NY gets behind rooting against Duke and for St Johns, whereas Uconn and Cuse the average new yorker probably prefers to st johns right now, unfortunately.

 

[Avon Barksdale]

Is the schedule announced or set in stone yet? We had OOC games against 2 top 3 seeds this year. Unfortunately our Barclays Classic had cupcakes for big conference teams in it (one of whom we lost to). We had a decent SOS this past year. If we have Cuse, Minnesota, and Gonzaga, then I think one more top 25 caliber team would be a very very solid OOC. Sure not the toughest possible, but it'd be very solid. I think adding a Pac 12 team would be a great idea. As for Avon's suggestion, of UConn, I think that's a terrible idea. Uconn and Syracuse turn out more fans than we do at MSG...we should be making these true HOME games against marquee programs, so I say target top programs who won't dilute the St. John's/NY rooting contingent for our side...adding say Louisville and Oregon or something like that would be ideal, IMO. Obviously part of the goal is filling MSG too so I'm fine with one of UConn and Syracuse, but adding both is almost like adding 2 tough road games...home and home games with those schools, until we become a consistent winner (unless?), are really all games where we our guys feel like there's no support for them in the stands. Sad but true.

Your point is well taken but is a game against Oregon where we will get 7,000 in MSG or a game against the defending champion UConn in a sold-out MSG more attractive to a prospective recruit?

Agreed the latter is, but only if we win. I'm obviously biased here but would rather play Duke again if we are adding back another program who fills MSG. we actually have shown success against them at MSG even though they turn out the fans too, plus I think NY gets behind rooting against Duke and for St Johns, whereas Uconn and Cuse the average new yorker probably prefers to st johns right now, unfortunately.

Duke wont schedule us any more because they can play in MSG other ways than scheduling SJU.

 

[austour]

That is a lot of precious internet space you used and you still missed (or avoided) the point. The schedule is not out yet, so why bash it?

assuming that Minnesota, Gonzaga and the Cuse are the three major OOC games, what do you think of the schedule then?

So now you missed the point that you missed the point? Just because those are the only 3 games announced, you don't know what the other 9-10 OOC games will bring. All that's known is there will likely be 3 cupcakes in the NIT preliminary rounds of which STJ will play 2. That still leaves 7-8 games TBA of which there could well be 2 quality opponents, time will tell. The thread is premature and all the opinions stated, not just yours, are speculation from a bored fanbase. Welcome to the off season.

 

[kranmars]

That is a lot of precious internet space you used and you still missed (or avoided) the point. The schedule is not out yet, so why bash it?

assuming that Minnesota, Gonzaga and the Cuse are the three major OOC games, what do you think of the schedule then?

I have no idea. But that is the point, no one does. When it comes out, fire away for all I care.

 

[indyredmen97]

Jeez Avon, I just recently got over that 1997 loss to Minnesota (between that embarrassment, 1998's losses to UConn, 1999 and 2000 losses to Ohio State I may have aged 30 years). Otherwise I agree with the majority and will withhold comment on the schedule until it comes out and then I'll proceed to dump on it for being to difficult/easy/Lavin-y/or whatever else it will reek of. Now please let me know where the cooking meth channel is so I can watch that until then.

Oh and I hope we do schedule Kentucky, so you can witness what truly insane/unrealistic/sowhatifmykidsdon'teatwearegoingtothegame is.

 

[GardenCity62]

I feel we should schedule Conn at MSG on the years the SYR game is away because attendance has gotten so bad there are only a handful of teams that will draw a crowd of 15,000 in a single game format.
Next season only Vill and Geo will probably sell 10,000 tickets and the remaining five Big East games at MSG will be played before 7,000 lonely people unless a good second game is scheduled.

 

[austour]

I feel we should schedule Conn at MSG on the years the SYR game is away because attendance has gotten so bad there are only a handful of teams that will draw a crowd of 15,000 in a single game format.
Next season only Vill and Geo will probably sell 10,000 tickets and the remaining five Big East games at MSG will be played before 7,000 lonely people unless a good second game is scheduled.

Agree with those that say F UConn. Would rather see high profile national programs like UNC, UCLA, Arizona, Indiana, Florida and of course Duke or others come in once per year than reward the old BE Football schools. Just because UConn got screwed too the way it all shook out doesn't make me feel better about them.

 

[Andrew]

Is the schedule announced or set in stone yet? We had OOC games against 2 top 3 seeds this year. Unfortunately our Barclays Classic had cupcakes for big conference teams in it (one of whom we lost to). We had a decent SOS this past year. If we have Cuse, Minnesota, and Gonzaga, then I think one more top 25 caliber team would be a very very solid OOC. Sure not the toughest possible, but it'd be very solid. I think adding a Pac 12 team would be a great idea. As for Avon's suggestion, of UConn, I think that's a terrible idea. Uconn and Syracuse turn out more fans than we do at MSG...we should be making these true HOME games against marquee programs, so I say target top programs who won't dilute the St. John's/NY rooting contingent for our side...adding say Louisville and Oregon or something like that would be ideal, IMO. Obviously part of the goal is filling MSG too so I'm fine with one of UConn and Syracuse, but adding both is almost like adding 2 tough road games...home and home games with those schools, until we become a consistent winner (unless?), are really all games where we our guys feel like there's no support for them in the stands. Sad but true.

Your point is well taken but is a game against Oregon where we will get 7,000 in MSG or a game against the defending champion UConn in a sold-out MSG more attractive to a prospective recruit?

I know which one will make more money for MSG and St. John's.

 

[Class of 72]

very underwhelming OOC schedule again.
it would be nice to play a better OOC schedule to compensate for our soft league schedule.
Come Feb & March it wont really be fun sitting on the bubble having one "quality win" like this year because we feasted on the little sisters of the poor all year.
It would be nice to add a game vs a PAC 12 team and why not add UConn ? They woud love to play in MSG....or at least another quality NCAA Tourney caliber team?
This is not the Big East of past years and we are not going to build a tournament resume playing butler and depaul.

"very underwhelming OOC schedule again".
Again? Did I miss the 2014-15 schedule? Can you list the entire OOC schedule for us? Do you think the SOS of Villanova, Georgetown, Xavier, etc. will have ANY impact on our SOS? I would like to see a MSG game against Kentucky!
Any chance the Maven can arrange it?

Since we dont play Duke any more it would be ideal to play a home and home with a Kentucky every year.

Its good to see you starting to wake up and smell the toast.

So then tell the Maven to broker the deal unless Lavin and he are no longer breaking bread in Soho. We don't play Duke anymore because coach K never got over SJ firing your mentor Jarhead. Screw Duke, Syracuse and Uconn. They were responsible for the best basketball conference becoming, in your words, the not so big east.

 

[Class of 72]

That is a lot of precious internet space you used and you still missed (or avoided) the point. The schedule is not out yet, so why bash it?

assuming that Minnesota, Gonzaga and the Cuse are the three major OOC games, what do you think of the schedule then?

I like to compare ourselves to your pops favorite coach when it comes to schedule. This past season do the names Transylvania, Montevallo, Ashville, Northern Ky, Tx Arlington, East Mich, Belmont, and Boise ring a bell? That was UK's OOC prior to Christmas. They won all those games!!!
They also played Michigan State,Baylor and North Carolina prior to Christmas. They lost all those games. The school with 6 future NBA first rounders finished the season 24-10. Cal was feeling so much pressure his agent put feelers out with the Lakers. Our little wizard's agent put feelers out with another California club. So many similarities except the little big east in its first year with an underperforming SJU, Gtown and Marquette was rated higher than your big bad SEC. Any thoughts?

 

[Amaseinyourface]

Any chance we get a home game vs Wisconsin?

 

[austour]

Any chance we get a home game vs Wisconsin?

I think that was just a one off to open that new arena in South Dakota.