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Monte post=446979 said:
SJUFAN2 post=446933 said:
AlBovino post=446926Talk about unsubstantiated and unscientific fear mongering!!!
Let's not turn this into a discussion about Fox "News" again...


 
CNN no better, just the other end of the spectrum. 

 
I don't watch either of them so we probably are closer to agreeing than disagreeing on that comment, still there are major differences.  If you want "unsubstantiated and unscientific fear mongering" Fox is the place to go.   They are without peer in that regard.   

And while I should confess that I will watch Chris Wallace on CNN now (at least occasionally) I'll say this for them...they may suck and you might not like their view of the world, but they at least have some ethics.  When their top personalities get caught abusing their position to help family and friends they fire them.  Not so much on the other end of the spectrum.

 
 
SJUFAN2 post=446987 said:
Monte post=446979 said:
SJUFAN2 post=446933 said:
AlBovino post=446926Talk about unsubstantiated and unscientific fear mongering!!!
Let's not turn this into a discussion about Fox "News" again...





 
CNN no better, just the other end of the spectrum. 




 
I don't watch either of them so we probably are closer to agreeing than disagreeing on that comment, still there are major differences.  If you want "unsubstantiated and unscientific fear mongering" Fox is the place to go.   They are without peer in that regard.   

And while I should confess that I will watch Chris Wallace on CNN now (at least occasionally) I'll say this for them...they may suck and you might not like their view of the world, but they at least have some ethics.  When their top personalities get caught abusing their position to help family and friends they fire them.  Not so much on the other end of the spectrum.


 
NM
 
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SJUFAN2 post=446987 said:
Monte post=446979 said:
SJUFAN2 post=446933 said:
AlBovino post=446926Talk about unsubstantiated and unscientific fear mongering!!!
Let's not turn this into a discussion about Fox "News" again...



 
CNN no better, just the other end of the spectrum. 


 
I don't watch either of them so we probably are closer to agreeing than disagreeing on that comment, still there are major differences.  If you want "unsubstantiated and unscientific fear mongering" Fox is the place to go.   They are without peer in that regard.   

And while I should confess that I will watch Chris Wallace on CNN now (at least occasionally) I'll say this for them...they may suck and you might not like their view of the world, but they at least have some ethics.  When their top personalities get caught abusing their position to help family and friends they fire them.  Not so much on the other end of the spectrum.


 
Agree with much of what you're saying, but I would not ever use  "ethics" and "CNN" in the same sentence. I'll really miss Chris Wallace on Fox Sunday, the only news program that I make it my business to watch every week. IMO he is one of the few ethical and unbiased media people out there. 
 
Monte post=446991 said:
SJUFAN2 post=446987 said:
Monte post=446979 said:
SJUFAN2 post=446933 said:
AlBovino post=446926Talk about unsubstantiated and unscientific fear mongering!!!
Let's not turn this into a discussion about Fox "News" again...




 
CNN no better, just the other end of the spectrum. 



 
I don't watch either of them so we probably are closer to agreeing than disagreeing on that comment, still there are major differences.  If you want "unsubstantiated and unscientific fear mongering" Fox is the place to go.   They are without peer in that regard.   

And while I should confess that I will watch Chris Wallace on CNN now (at least occasionally) I'll say this for them...they may suck and you might not like their view of the world, but they at least have some ethics.  When their top personalities get caught abusing their position to help family and friends they fire them.  Not so much on the other end of the spectrum.



 
Agree with much of what you're saying, but I would not ever use  "ethics" and "CNN" in the same sentence. I'll really miss Chris Wallace on Fox Sunday, the only news program that I make it my business to watch every week. IMO he is one of the few ethical and unbiased media people out there. 
Emphasis on the “period” at the end of the sentence.
 
I don't think discussing the networks is productive.    Not everyone agrees with shots at any networks, so better to keep it off of here.

 For the record, Wallace is not unbiased, but he is more of an old school journalist who is fair to both sides for the most part.   
 
Beast of the East post=446994 said:
I don't think discussing the networks is productive.    Not everyone agrees with shots at any networks, so better to keep it off of here.

 For the record, Wallace is not unbiased, but he is more of an old school journalist who is fair to both sides for the most part.   
Unbiased=fair to both sides. /media/kunena/emoticons/wink.png/media/kunena/emoticons/grin.png
 
It's not important what news you watch, it's important what news you understand, and understanding what is actually news.
 
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Beast of the East post=446994 said:
I don't think discussing the networks is productive.    Not everyone agrees with shots at any networks, so better to keep it off of here.

 For the record, Wallace is not unbiased, but he is more of an old school journalist who is fair to both sides for the most part.   
For the record, no human being is "unbiased".  We all see the world through the filter of our life experiences, good and/or bad as they may have been.  

But there's a difference between being "fair and balanced" despite your personal biases, and being a hack or hypocrite who creates the "news" an audience wants to hear instead of reporting it factually. 

 https://gfile.thedispatch.com/p/donald-trumps-megaphone
 
mjmaherjr post=446878 said:
Seeing the numbers today in Suffolk count we hit 9% infection rate while nyc is lower nmwho knows what’s going to happen by January but it’s definitely very concerning . I know a bunch of people who have recently gotten Covid 
I just became one of them. This sucks!
 
gregbodkin post=447006 said:
mjmaherjr post=446878 said:
Seeing the numbers today in Suffolk count we hit 9% infection rate while nyc is lower nmwho knows what’s going to happen by January but it’s definitely very concerning . I know a bunch of people who have recently gotten Covid 
I just became one of them. This sucks!
Get well soon Greg.
 
Seems to me that the easy fix would be that teams with 100% vaccination that get breakthrough infections and forfeit a game due to lack of players, shouldn't have that loss count against them.

Teams that aren't fully vaxxed and have to forfeit pay the penalty for not being a good business partner and it does count against them and for the declared winner.   
 
gregbodkin post=447006 said:
mjmaherjr post=446878 said:
Seeing the numbers today in Suffolk count we hit 9% infection rate while nyc is lower nmwho knows what’s going to happen by January but it’s definitely very concerning . I know a bunch of people who have recently gotten Covid 
I just became one of them. This sucks!
speedy recovery Greg
 
Rob post=447013 said:
We should push to reschedule and I don't believe for a second that Hall doesn't have 7 kids who can play.  I think Willard probably doesn't like the 7 they have eligible to play.
Probably right…with that said, I don’t want a forfeit and am not buying into what some have projected as a double digit underdog and loss. We haven’t played to our potential and justifiably warrant some doubt but SH is not UCLA circa 1966-69.
 
plandome4 post=447022 said:
With the Number of Covid cases increasing exponentially I wouldn’t be surprised the season is canceled by the end of January. The NBA  and the NHL is having the same issues. The Covid protocol will prevent them from fielding teams…and that would sux!
Wasn’t cancelled last year. Not going to be cancelled this year
 
We've had a 31% spike in reported covid case and 21% spike in deaths.   Getting the omicron variant of covid is not about vaccination status.   That narrative is false.  Masking, frequent handwashing,  refrain from body contact all may help with social distancing and isolation the most reliable.
 
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Not sure how this turned into a vaccination vs no vaccination thing already. There's no data to suggest that teams with unvaccinated players have a higher risk of positive tests than fully vaccinated teams. Many of the teams that have had to cancel games over the past week or so are part of schools with vaccination requirements to be enrolled. A few schools with vaccination requirements to be enrolled have cancelled in-person classes due to the positive tests, the most notable of which being Cornell.

Vaccination issue aside, I'm not sure how this current process is going to be sustainable. Teams are going to be cancelling games left or right as long as testing measures remain in place, mainly the testing of asymptomatic players. It's likely that every team is going to have their own covid issues at some point during the season and it's almost better to get them out of the way now than to get them in March during the conference or NCAA tournaments.
 
Can’t wait for the Super Bowl to roll around and 2 days before we learn an asymptomatic Brady, Rodgers or Mahomes has to sit out.

At that point maybe we can reassess how this is handled. 
 
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