NJIT, Sun. Dec. 20, Noon, FS1 & 970 AM

[Ray Morgan]

Unlike Incarnate where we were just awful, we should have won the game against NJIT. We committed less turnovers and out rebounded them. The difference was they hit a much larger percentage of their open 3's. We need to reign in some of these guys that can't shoot 3's at a reasonable percentage.

We are getting into the bad habit of not probing the defense and making the extra pass, and settling for the 3. A message to some of the guys that are wide open-There is a reason you are wide open. Johnson and Ellison under 30% from 3. Amar at 33%. Mvouika at 42%, yet has taken less 3s than Johnson. Mussini at 35%, but too many are forced. Ellison shooting under 30% in his 4 games. He needs, at this point, to focus on defense and ball movement.

I know Mullin's philosophy is to shoot the open 3, but we just don't have enough good shooters at this point.

 

[redmaninalbany]

I drove down from Albany for this game. After watching it and all the tv games, i am surprised for the enthisiasm about Ellison. He made some foul shots, but he couldnt defend either, missed open 2 and 3 pointers, and got a lot of playing time. Johnson makes me nuts but i dont see the upside here.

 

[Ray Morgan]

I drove down from Albany for this game. After watching it and all the tv games, i am surprised for the enthisiasm about Ellison. He made some foul shots, but he couldnt defend either, missed open 2 and 3 pointers, and got a lot of playing time. Johnson makes me nuts but i dont see the upside here.

I wouldn't be too hard on a freshman coming off injuries and only 4 games into his career. When Felix is healthy, I suspect Ellison will sit more and learn from practice and by watching from the bench.

 

[fun]

Mussini at 35%, but too many are forced. Ellison shooting under 30% in his 4 games. He needs, at this point, to focus on defense and ball movement.

That 35 percent is somewhat misleading. Mussini is 30 for 84 from three. Take away the three games he shot well (Wagner,Chaminade and Syracuse, 14 for 22 combined) and he's 16 for 62, 25 percent, in the remaining 9 games. So that means he's a 60 percent three point shooter 25 percent of the time and a 25 percent shooter 75 percent of the time.

 

[beast of the east]

Mussini at 35%, but too many are forced. Ellison shooting under 30% in his 4 games. He needs, at this point, to focus on defense and ball movement.

That 35 percent is somewhat misleading. Mussini is 30 for 84 from three. Take away the three games he shot well (Wagner,Chaminade and Syracuse, 14 for 22 combined) and he's 16 for 62, 25 percent, in the remaining 9 games. So that means he's a 60 percent three point shooter 25 percent of the time and a 25 percent shooter 75 percent of the time.

You can play with numbers all you want, but the reality is that Mussini is a great outside shooter when he is open, better than anyone we've had for years. Compare Mussini when he gets good look to someone like Harrison, and I'll take Mussini any day of the week. The difference between the two is that Mussini can't create his shot well, can't take it the hoop, is undersized and not very fast. His stats do not have the benefit of ahead of the field layups or even putbacks off offensive rebounds. It's almost all shots from the outside. He has to learn to take higher percentage shots, and not try to shoot off the dribble or when closely contested. When he does that, his shooting percentage will go way up, but his socring average will go down. Right now if you want to beat SJU easily, play a man, or at the very least make sure that Mussini is hounded by a box and one.

 

[we are sju]

Mussini at 35%, but too many are forced. Ellison shooting under 30% in his 4 games. He needs, at this point, to focus on defense and ball movement.

That 35 percent is somewhat misleading. Mussini is 30 for 84 from three. Take away the three games he shot well (Wagner,Chaminade and Syracuse, 14 for 22 combined) and he's 16 for 62, 25 percent, in the remaining 9 games. So that means he's a 60 percent three point shooter 25 percent of the time and a 25 percent shooter 75 percent of the time.

You can play with numbers all you want, but the reality is that Mussini is a great outside shooter when he is open, better than anyone we've had for years. Compare Mussini when he gets good look to someone like Harrison, and I'll take Mussini any day of the week. The difference between the two is that Mussini can't create his shot well, can't take it the hoop, is undersized and not very fast. His stats do not have the benefit of ahead of the field layups or even putbacks off offensive rebounds. It's almost all shots from the outside. He has to learn to take higher percentage shots, and not try to shoot off the dribble or when closely contested. When he does that, his shooting percentage will go way up, but his socring average will go down. Right now if you want to beat SJU easily, play a man, or at the very least make sure that Mussini is hounded by a box and one.

Shooting wide open jumpers and maybe a recommendation on where to get pasta. Otherwise I would take Harrison in every other aspect of life.

 

[JackofVirginia]

Unlike Incarnate where we were just awful, we should have won the game against NJIT. We committed less turnovers and out rebounded them. The difference was they hit a much larger percentage of their open 3's. We need to reign in some of these guys that can't shoot 3's at a reasonable percentage.

We are getting into the bad habit of not probing the defense and making the extra pass, and settling for the 3. A message to some of the guys that are wide open-There is a reason you are wide open. Johnson and Ellison under 30% from 3. Amar at 33%. Mvouika at 42%, yet has taken less 3s than Johnson. Mussini at 35%, but too many are forced. Ellison shooting under 30% in his 4 games. He needs, at this point, to focus on defense and ball movement.

I know Mullin's philosophy is to shoot the open 3, but we just don't have enough good shooters at this point.

We finally have a center that can score in close and we don't feed him. I can swear that he only touched the ball twice in the first half and in the second half once he got the ball they doubled teamed him. He has to look for the
open man in this case.
Our defense against the three point shot is equally as bad as Lavin's defense was. Do we have any defensive coach on our staff?

 

[Muse]

Is there any point to this?

 

[JackofVirginia]

Unlike Incarnate where we were just awful, we should have won the game against NJIT. We committed less turnovers and out rebounded them. The difference was they hit a much larger percentage of their open 3's. We need to reign in some of these guys that can't shoot 3's at a reasonable percentage.

How about our lousy foul shooting?

 

[Andrew]

Unlike Incarnate where we were just awful, we should have won the game against NJIT. We committed less turnovers and out rebounded them. The difference was they hit a much larger percentage of their open 3's. We need to reign in some of these guys that can't shoot 3's at a reasonable percentage.

How about our lousy foul shooting?

Yawke and Sima where 0-6 and they are lousy foul shooters.

 

[JackofVirginia]

When one player or team has a career game against you, you chalk it up to bad luck. When it happens again the next game, you chalk it up to bad defense. Team has no doubt regressed after the Syracuse win. Energy level was low. They needed an energy booster like Felix. Can't blame it all on lack of athleticism. Lavin's teams had an abundance of that, and his teams often had trouble defending the 3. They may have figured it out by the time they were seniors, but not before then.
Recognize the shooters, close out, hands up.

Agreed. When guarding an excellent three point shooter like Lynn you have to be in his jock strap, instead Mvouika was looking to help out by closing in the middle.

 

[fun]

Mussini at 35%, but too many are forced. Ellison shooting under 30% in his 4 games. He needs, at this point, to focus on defense and ball movement.

That 35 percent is somewhat misleading. Mussini is 30 for 84 from three. Take away the three games he shot well (Wagner,Chaminade and Syracuse, 14 for 22 combined) and he's 16 for 62, 25 percent, in the remaining 9 games. So that means he's a 60 percent three point shooter 25 percent of the time and a 25 percent shooter 75 percent of the time.

You can play with numbers all you want, but the reality is that Mussini is a great outside shooter when he is open, better than anyone we've had for years. Compare Mussini when he gets good look to someone like Harrison, and I'll take Mussini any day of the week. The difference between the two is that Mussini can't create his shot well, can't take it the hoop, is undersized and not very fast. His stats do not have the benefit of ahead of the field layups or even putbacks off offensive rebounds. It's almost all shots from the outside. He has to learn to take higher percentage shots, and not try to shoot off the dribble or when closely contested. When he does that, his shooting percentage will go way up, but his socring average will go down. Right now if you want to beat SJU easily, play a man, or at the very least make sure that Mussini is hounded by a box and one.

Shooting wide open jumpers and maybe a recommendation on where to get pasta. Otherwise I would take Harrison in every other aspect of life.

Clearly you have not factored in his thuggish tattoos and complicated handshakes, as have certain other posters.

 

[we are sju]

Mussini at 35%, but too many are forced. Ellison shooting under 30% in his 4 games. He needs, at this point, to focus on defense and ball movement.

That 35 percent is somewhat misleading. Mussini is 30 for 84 from three. Take away the three games he shot well (Wagner,Chaminade and Syracuse, 14 for 22 combined) and he's 16 for 62, 25 percent, in the remaining 9 games. So that means he's a 60 percent three point shooter 25 percent of the time and a 25 percent shooter 75 percent of the time.

You can play with numbers all you want, but the reality is that Mussini is a great outside shooter when he is open, better than anyone we've had for years. Compare Mussini when he gets good look to someone like Harrison, and I'll take Mussini any day of the week. The difference between the two is that Mussini can't create his shot well, can't take it the hoop, is undersized and not very fast. His stats do not have the benefit of ahead of the field layups or even putbacks off offensive rebounds. It's almost all shots from the outside. He has to learn to take higher percentage shots, and not try to shoot off the dribble or when closely contested. When he does that, his shooting percentage will go way up, but his socring average will go down. Right now if you want to beat SJU easily, play a man, or at the very least make sure that Mussini is hounded by a box and one.

Shooting wide open jumpers and maybe a recommendation on where to get pasta. Otherwise I would take Harrison in every other aspect of life.

Clearly you have not factored in his thuggish tattoos and complicated handshakes, as have certain other posters.

Full disclosure I am not a fan of the frohawk. Purely for aesthetic purposes, but not a fan. I never let it affect my judgement in appreciating his play though. Was happy he ditched it his senior year

 

[we are sju]

See if you are going to do something fully commit. Go full Mohawk or go home! You are hedging your bet with frohawk

 

[fuchsia]

Least talented team may have been 62/63 squad with Donnie Burks after Ken McIntyre was injured and sat out the year. Lapchick coached them to the max of their ability and Burks was a fine point guard which hid some of the lack of talent. Part of this years problem is no team defense because no trust has yet developed that team mates will fulfill their roles. Helping out leaves three point shooters open.

 

[beast of the east]

Mussini at 35%, but too many are forced. Ellison shooting under 30% in his 4 games. He needs, at this point, to focus on defense and ball movement.

That 35 percent is somewhat misleading. Mussini is 30 for 84 from three. Take away the three games he shot well (Wagner,Chaminade and Syracuse, 14 for 22 combined) and he's 16 for 62, 25 percent, in the remaining 9 games. So that means he's a 60 percent three point shooter 25 percent of the time and a 25 percent shooter 75 percent of the time.

You can play with numbers all you want, but the reality is that Mussini is a great outside shooter when he is open, better than anyone we've had for years. Compare Mussini when he gets good look to someone like Harrison, and I'll take Mussini any day of the week. The difference between the two is that Mussini can't create his shot well, can't take it the hoop, is undersized and not very fast. His stats do not have the benefit of ahead of the field layups or even putbacks off offensive rebounds. It's almost all shots from the outside. He has to learn to take higher percentage shots, and not try to shoot off the dribble or when closely contested. When he does that, his shooting percentage will go way up, but his socring average will go down. Right now if you want to beat SJU easily, play a man, or at the very least make sure that Mussini is hounded by a box and one.

Shooting wide open jumpers and maybe a recommendation on where to get pasta. Otherwise I would take Harrison in every other aspect of life.

Only comparing shooting ability. Two completely different ballplayers and athletes. Harrison made a ton of threes and even thought he was a better shooter than Mullin, but Harrison was not money in the bank when open. Mussini makes shots when open better than anyone at SJU since Mullin. Agree there's no other comparison at this point to Harrison worth mentioning.

 

[usguard]

Mussini at 35%, but too many are forced. Ellison shooting under 30% in his 4 games. He needs, at this point, to focus on defense and ball movement.

That 35 percent is somewhat misleading. Mussini is 30 for 84 from three. Take away the three games he shot well (Wagner,Chaminade and Syracuse, 14 for 22 combined) and he's 16 for 62, 25 percent, in the remaining 9 games. So that means he's a 60 percent three point shooter 25 percent of the time and a 25 percent shooter 75 percent of the time.

You can play with numbers all you want, but the reality is that Mussini is a great outside shooter when he is open, better than anyone we've had for years. Compare Mussini when he gets good look to someone like Harrison, and I'll take Mussini any day of the week. The difference between the two is that Mussini can't create his shot well, can't take it the hoop, is undersized and not very fast. His stats do not have the benefit of ahead of the field layups or even putbacks off offensive rebounds. It's almost all shots from the outside. He has to learn to take higher percentage shots, and not try to shoot off the dribble or when closely contested. When he does that, his shooting percentage will go way up, but his socring average will go down. Right now if you want to beat SJU easily, play a man, or at the very least make sure that Mussini is hounded by a box and one.

Shooting wide open jumpers and maybe a recommendation on where to get pasta. Otherwise I would take Harrison in every other aspect of life.[/quot

Only comparing shooting ability. Two completely different ballplayers and athletes. Harrison made a ton of threes and even thought he was a better shooter than Mullin, but Harrison was not money in the bank when open. Mussini makes shots when open better than anyone at SJU since Mullin. Agree there's no other comparison at this point to Harrison worth mentioning.

KID IS ONLY A FRESHMEN AND YOUR COMPARING HIM TO A SR. KID IS A MUCH BETTER SPOT UP SHOOTER. HE HAS BEEN PLAYING OUT OF POSITION WITH OTHER FRESHMEN WHO DO NOT EVEN SET GOOD PICKS FOR HIM TO SHOOT. HE IS DOING EVERYTHING BRINGING UP THE BALL PASSING SETTI NG UP PLAYERS ETC THE BALL IS IN HIS HAND 80% OF THE TIME AND HE IS AVERAGING 15-18PT PG HE IS PROBABLY THE BEST FOUL SHOOTER ON THE TEAM AND FOR NOW WHEN HE IS OUT THE GAME IS MORE ERRATIC HE DOES NOT GO TO THE BASKET ALL THAT BAD . AS I ALREADY SAID WHEN LOVETT COMES IN AND TAKES THE BALL OUT OF HIS HAND I FEEL HE WILL BE MUCH BETTER IF THE TEAM CAN SPREAD OUT AND PASS BETTER HE WILL BE OPENED MORE AND WILL A TRUE ZONE BREAKER CAN ONLY THINK HOW HE WILL BE AS A SR WITH MORE TALENT AROUND HIM

 

[we are sju]

Mussini at 35%, but too many are forced. Ellison shooting under 30% in his 4 games. He needs, at this point, to focus on defense and ball movement.

That 35 percent is somewhat misleading. Mussini is 30 for 84 from three. Take away the three games he shot well (Wagner,Chaminade and Syracuse, 14 for 22 combined) and he's 16 for 62, 25 percent, in the remaining 9 games. So that means he's a 60 percent three point shooter 25 percent of the time and a 25 percent shooter 75 percent of the time.

You can play with numbers all you want, but the reality is that Mussini is a great outside shooter when he is open, better than anyone we've had for years. Compare Mussini when he gets good look to someone like Harrison, and I'll take Mussini any day of the week. The difference between the two is that Mussini can't create his shot well, can't take it the hoop, is undersized and not very fast. His stats do not have the benefit of ahead of the field layups or even putbacks off offensive rebounds. It's almost all shots from the outside. He has to learn to take higher percentage shots, and not try to shoot off the dribble or when closely contested. When he does that, his shooting percentage will go way up, but his socring average will go down. Right now if you want to beat SJU easily, play a man, or at the very least make sure that Mussini is hounded by a box and one.

Shooting wide open jumpers and maybe a recommendation on where to get pasta. Otherwise I would take Harrison in every other aspect of life.[/quot

Only comparing shooting ability. Two completely different ballplayers and athletes. Harrison made a ton of threes and even thought he was a better shooter than Mullin, but Harrison was not money in the bank when open. Mussini makes shots when open better than anyone at SJU since Mullin. Agree there's no other comparison at this point to Harrison worth mentioning.

KID IS ONLY A FRESHMEN AND YOUR COMPARING HIM TO A SR. KID IS A MUCH BETTER SPOT UP SHOOTER. HE HAS BEEN PLAYING OUT OF POSITION WITH OTHER FRESHMEN WHO DO NOT EVEN SET GOOD PICKS FOR HIM TO SHOOT. HE IS DOING EVERYTHING BRINGING UP THE BALL PASSING SETTI NG UP PLAYERS ETC THE BALL IS IN HIS HAND 80% OF THE TIME AND HE IS AVERAGING 15-18PT PG HE IS PROBABLY THE BEST FOUL SHOOTER ON THE TEAM AND FOR NOW WHEN HE IS OUT THE GAME IS MORE ERRATIC HE DOES NOT GO TO THE BASKET ALL THAT BAD . AS I ALREADY SAID WHEN LOVETT COMES IN AND TAKES THE BALL OUT OF HIS HAND I FEEL HE WILL BE MUCH BETTER IF THE TEAM CAN SPREAD OUT AND PASS BETTER HE WILL BE OPENED MORE AND WILL A TRUE ZONE BREAKER CAN ONLY THINK HOW HE WILL BE AS A SR WITH MORE TALENT AROUND HIM

LOUD NOISES!!!

 

[Amaseinyourface]

NJIT thoughts:http://www.bigeastboards.com/

"Sima had 14 rebounds, most of those of his own misses"

Full disclosure, I love these recaps. However, the size of the hole you would rip in ones ass for making the above statement would resemble Gene Hackmans' head. I mean considering Sima missed all of one field goal.

 

[fun]

Sima missed all of one field goal.

Thank you for the fact check. I thought someone missed a bunch of chippies, it must have been [strike]Jakarr Sampson[/strike] Christian Jones.