NIL’s

He said as he was being interviewed after the tourny that Zuby and RJ aren't going anywhere. I'm sure RJ is going to test the NBA waters and they'll tell him he needs another year to develop.
 
KG44 said:
NIL has really helped St. John’s. In the 80’s, players generally stayed for 3 years. The 84-85 team had 4 eventual top 20 draft picks, and 2 others who were drafted. In the one and done or two and down era, St. John’s had trouble refilling its roster with top players every year, and then eventually had trouble even getting top players. Now, a team with a bunch of experienced players who are potential second round picks and overseas professional basketball type players (and maybe a potential first rounder) can do quite well. With Repole’s $, this is the sweet spot for the Johnnies.
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thakid said:
It’s hard to sell an 18-22 yr old kid with no money on a campus in queens by saying “the city is your playground” when they can’t afford to “play” in it.

NIL has allowed us to really sell these 18 yr olds on being able to take advantage of all the city has to offer.

My brother played D3 ball at NYU and a number of his teammates - especially those from outside the US - had low D1 offers in random locations but their families had money and they preferred play D3 at NYU and be in New York. If guys are willing to choose D3 New York experience over D1 schools when they have the funds to afford it, you can start to understand how much of an equalizer it is when it’s now selling a big east school that plays 10 games at MSG. With a legendary coach. Try recruiting against St. John’s when you can’t use “you’ll be stuck in Jamaica - it’s not like you’re going to be hanging out in the city all the time” as a reason to embrace an on campus experience in a random state elsewhere. There are advantages to those schools and experiences but NIL has put us on a much more even playing field again.
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Players on those teams in the 80’s and 90’s received stipends since St. John’s did not have dorms(allowed by the NCAA) Players that lived at home kept the whole thing, while those who didn’t, roomed with somebody where they split the rent which the school took out and paid while the rest went directly to the players. Even after the dorms were built, players were still eligible for stipends if they lived of campus due to the low percentage of available campus housing compared to students enrolled. The school elected to halt the stipends and had the players live on campus during the Jarvis (?) time or maybe earlier.
 
redmannorth said:
Let’s hope this is true and not just Coach speak.
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Not coach speak. Those Football schools will have to decide how to spread the wealth between football and basketball and some, that have other revenue producing sports (like baseball, softball and woman’s basketball) that are not revenue producing here, will be sending some (in smaller numbers than football and basketball of course) to those programs as well.

It is up to the schools to decide how they are going to split their share of the $22M with their programs. Our lion share will go to the only real revenue producing sport we have I would think.
 
SJU85 said:
Not coach speak. Those Football schools will have to decide how to spread the wealth between football and basketball and some, that have other revenue producing sports (like baseball, softball and woman’s basketball) that are not revenue producing here, will be sending some (in smaller numbers than football and basketball of course) to those programs as well.

It is up to the schools to decide how they are going to split their share of the $22M with their programs. Our lion share will go to the only real revenue producing sport we have I would think.
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Haven’t shed one tear for the football schools. And I chopped 5 onions.
 
Well the NCAA loses again and has to settle. From the Associated Press and Newsday.

“NASHVILLE, Tenn. — The NCAA will abandon a rule that stopped athletes from negotiating potentially lucrative name, image and likeness deals before enrolling in a specific college, Tennessee Attorney General Jonathan Skrmetti said Monday as he announced a settlement in a lawsuit over the policy.

Skrmetti and a handful of attorneys general had sued the NCAA over its name, image and likeness recruiting ban, arguing the rule violated antitrust laws. The proposed settlement still must be approved by a federal judge.

In a statement, Skrmetti said, “With a multi-billion-dollar entertainment industry rising from the foundation of college sports, the kids who make it all happen should not be the only people denied an opportunity to prosper.”

An NCAA spokesperson said the proposed settlement “underscores our support for student-athletes benefiting from their NIL and our commitment to provide increased benefits to student-athletes at every stage in their collegiate experience, creating a sustainable model for the future of college sports.”

The agreement, if approved by the court, will allow college athletes to negotiate compensation for name, image and likeness deals before enrolling in a specific school and will allow third parties to negotiate name, image and likeness deals during recruitment windows.

The NCAA also will have to publicize any proposed name, image and likeness changes for the next five years and meet with states before the proposals can take effect.

Attorneys general in New York, Virginia, Florida and the District of Columbia were part of the coalition that sued over the policy.

“Student-athletes should have the freedom to decide the course of their athletic careers without restrictions that rig the game against them,” New York Attorney General Letitita James said in a statement.

The judge handling the case previously had ordered the NCAA to temporarily halt the policy while the case played out.”

The fact that they have to publicize and meet with States (what states, the ones that brought the lawsuit, all, half and does the District of Columbia play a part in this as they are not a State but wee one of the original parties who filed the lawsuit) before making any NIL rule changes just ties their hands further.
 
SJU85 said:
Not coach speak. Those Football schools will have to decide how to spread the wealth between football and basketball and some, that have other revenue producing sports (like baseball, softball and woman’s basketball) that are not revenue producing here, will be sending some (in smaller numbers than football and basketball of course) to those programs as well.

It is up to the schools to decide how they are going to split their share of the $22M with their programs. Our lion share will go to the only real revenue producing sport we have I would think.
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The fencing team is about to get paid!
 
SJU85 said:
Well the NCAA loses again and has to settle. From the Associated Press and Newsday.

“NASHVILLE, Tenn. — The NCAA will abandon a rule that stopped athletes from negotiating potentially lucrative name, image and likeness deals before enrolling in a specific college, Tennessee Attorney General Jonathan Skrmetti said Monday as he announced a settlement in a lawsuit over the policy.

Skrmetti and a handful of attorneys general had sued the NCAA over its name, image and likeness recruiting ban, arguing the rule violated antitrust laws. The proposed settlement still must be approved by a federal judge.

In a statement, Skrmetti said, “With a multi-billion-dollar entertainment industry rising from the foundation of college sports, the kids who make it all happen should not be the only people denied an opportunity to prosper.”

An NCAA spokesperson said the proposed settlement “underscores our support for student-athletes benefiting from their NIL and our commitment to provide increased benefits to student-athletes at every stage in their collegiate experience, creating a sustainable model for the future of college sports.”

The agreement, if approved by the court, will allow college athletes to negotiate compensation for name, image and likeness deals before enrolling in a specific school and will allow third parties to negotiate name, image and likeness deals during recruitment windows.

The NCAA also will have to publicize any proposed name, image and likeness changes for the next five years and meet with states before the proposals can take effect.

Attorneys general in New York, Virginia, Florida and the District of Columbia were part of the coalition that sued over the policy.

“Student-athletes should have the freedom to decide the course of their athletic careers without restrictions that rig the game against them,” New York Attorney General Letitita James said in a statement.

The judge handling the case previously had ordered the NCAA to temporarily halt the policy while the case played out.”

The fact that they have to publicize and meet with States (what states, the ones that brought the lawsuit, all, half and does the District of Columbia play a part in this as they are not a State but wee one of the original parties who filed the lawsuit) before making any NIL rule changes just ties their hands further.
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I think this could be very beneficial to SJU. If the university maintains this level of seriousness and continues investing in the program to ensure its success, then there will be good opportunities for recruits to make money outside revenue sharing in NYC.

I am drooling (and not just because I am old and it comes naturally) at the prospects of revenue sharing to pair with Wall Street and Madison Avenue opening doors to future SJU players.

Top it off with the fact that SJU does not have to concern itself with securing millions for a four or five star QB.
 
SJU85 said:
Well the NCAA loses again and has to settle. From the Associated Press and Newsday.

“NASHVILLE, Tenn. — The NCAA will abandon a rule that stopped athletes from negotiating potentially lucrative name, image and likeness deals before enrolling in a specific college, Tennessee Attorney General Jonathan Skrmetti said Monday as he announced a settlement in a lawsuit over the policy.

Skrmetti and a handful of attorneys general had sued the NCAA over its name, image and likeness recruiting ban, arguing the rule violated antitrust laws. The proposed settlement still must be approved by a federal judge.

In a statement, Skrmetti said, “With a multi-billion-dollar entertainment industry rising from the foundation of college sports, the kids who make it all happen should not be the only people denied an opportunity to prosper.”

An NCAA spokesperson said the proposed settlement “underscores our support for student-athletes benefiting from their NIL and our commitment to provide increased benefits to student-athletes at every stage in their collegiate experience, creating a sustainable model for the future of college sports.”

The agreement, if approved by the court, will allow college athletes to negotiate compensation for name, image and likeness deals before enrolling in a specific school and will allow third parties to negotiate name, image and likeness deals during recruitment windows.

The NCAA also will have to publicize any proposed name, image and likeness changes for the next five years and meet with states before the proposals can take effect.

Attorneys general in New York, Virginia, Florida and the District of Columbia were part of the coalition that sued over the policy.

“Student-athletes should have the freedom to decide the course of their athletic careers without restrictions that rig the game against them,” New York Attorney General Letitita James said in a statement.

The judge handling the case previously had ordered the NCAA to temporarily halt the policy while the case played out.”

The fact that they have to publicize and meet with States (what states, the ones that brought the lawsuit, all, half and does the District of Columbia play a part in this as they are not a State but wee one of the original parties who filed the lawsuit) before making any NIL rule changes just ties their hands further.
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NCAA wins as often as Washington Generals.
 
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