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Amazing that some posters are years later still obsessing over Coach Robert's.
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Its most often the posters who are obsessed with Lav that are the ones who bring up NR. Many of the same ones who are seizing on the opportunity to bash CM. As though somehow bashing NR and CM makes Lav anything more than the failure that he was here and at UCLA.
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In fairness to Otis I think he began to hate Lavin and was one of his biggest critics
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You mean to tell me that Otis doesn't like Lavin? I had no idea ;)
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Haa ok I might have misinterpreted your post. I'm in food coma right now from eating lunch at one of Emeril's restaurants
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I want to come back as you in my next life
 
Amazing that some posters are years later still obsessing over Coach Robert's.
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Its most often the posters who are obsessed with Lav that are the ones who bring up NR. Many of the same ones who are seizing on the opportunity to bash CM. As though somehow bashing NR and CM makes Lav anything more than the failure that he was here and at UCLA.
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In fairness to Otis I think he began to hate Lavin and was one of his biggest critics
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You mean to tell me that Otis doesn't like Lavin? I had no idea ;)
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Haa ok I might have misinterpreted your post. I'm in food coma right now from eating lunch at one of Emeril's restaurants
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I want to come back as you in my next life
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hopefully 10 pounds lighter
 
Haa ok I might have misinterpreted your post. I'm in food coma right now from eating lunch at one of Emeril's restaurants
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Emeril really knows how to run a restaurant! Years ago I had one of the best weekends of my life in Vegas (Delmonico) with my wife. Food was awesome but the service was practically supernatural. It was like they were mind readers... Forever linking Emeril, Celine Dion, and Redmannorth together as GOATs.
 
Haa ok I might have misinterpreted your post. I'm in food coma right now from eating lunch at one of Emeril's restaurants
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Emeril really knows how to run a restaurant! Years ago I had one of the best weekends of my life in Vegas (Delmonico) with my wife. Food was awesome but the service was practically supernatural. It was like they were mind readers... Forever linking Emeril, Celine Dion, and Redmannorth together as GOATs.
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agreed in reference to the staff. I ate at the bar but from the bartender to the waiters and waitresses that interacted with her and each other they were fantastic. And the food recommendations for all 3 courses by the bartender couldn't be more spot on
 
"That f'n Monte" !!

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Steve Lavin to wife Mary:
"Hi honey, hope all is well at the Yoga studio. I hear my old friend Bucknasty is working on getting Chris Mullin fired. Should I try to stage a comeback at St. John's? I hate this bungalow we are living in and would like to put in a low ball bid on Mullin's Port Washington house. What do you think?"
Mary to Steve:
" Great idea honey! I miss working with the team. I think all these Steve Lavin kids need is a little Yoga and meditation. Go for it!"
Steve to Mary:
"OK babe! Do you think if I buy all the existing inventory of the Weasles that Fun will support me on redmen.com and on Johnny Jungle or do you think he will just say F.O.A.D.?"
Mary to Steve:
"I know honey. He will be a tough nut to crack but we're only talking 20 or 30 8 tracks in his basement so it is worth a try. I'm more worried about OTIS. He's a mod and may delete all of Bucknasty's FIRE MULLIN posts. Then what?"
Steve to Mary:
"Then I would arrange a sit down with The Maven, OTIS, Slice and Tom Pecora at Rao's. I will broker peace with the four families. If they don't accept, at the end of the dinner I want you to come out of the ladies room with the gun I hid in the Tampex dispenser. Shoot the Maven, OTIS and Slice between the eyes. Leave Pecora alone. He's going to be my associate head coach.....right after he drives up to Albany and delivers some cannoli to that Fun guy. I'm also looking into the immigration status of that Pinoy president. I need him to get deported before I take the job of re resurrecting St. John's. BTW, where did you put my hammer and rock?"
 
"That f'n Monte" !!

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Steve Lavin to wife Mary:
"Hi honey, hope all is well at the Yoga studio. I hear my old friend Bucknasty is working on getting Chris Mullin fired. Should I try to stage a comeback at St. John's? I hate this bungalow we are living in and would like to put in a low ball bid on Mullin's Port Washington house. What do you think?"
Mary to Steve:
" Great idea honey! I miss working with the team. I think all these Steve Lavin kids need is a little Yoga and meditation. Go for it!"
Steve to Mary:
"OK babe! Do you think if I buy all the existing inventory of the Weasles that Fun will support me on redmen.com and on Johnny Jungle or do you think he will just say F.O.A.D.?"
Mary to Steve:
"I know honey. He will be a tough nut to crack but we're only talking 20 or 30 8 tracks in his basement so it is worth a try. I'm more worried about OTIS. He's a mod and may delete all of Bucknasty's FIRE MULLIN posts. Then what?"
Steve to Mary:
"Then I would arrange a sit down with The Maven, OTIS, Slice and Tom Pecora at Rao's. I will broker peace with the four families. If they don't accept, at the end of the dinner I want you to come out of the ladies room with the gun I hid in the Tampex dispenser. Shoot the Maven, OTIS and Slice between the eyes. Leave Pecora alone. He's going to be my associate head coach.....right after he drives up to Albany and delivers some cannoli to that Fun guy. I'm also looking into the immigration status of that Pinoy president. I need him to get deported before I take the job of re resurrecting St. John's. BTW, where did you put my hammer and rock?"
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The only problem with this post is I don't think he will be emailing Mary about this stuff
 
But the FACT is those kids had never won when the schedule got harder in conference play so just because you think magically they were going to win because they were seniors doesn't mean it's so
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Here's a FACT: if you write the word fact in capital letters it doesn't make what you said truer.

I don't believe in magic. I believe in incremental progress, because I've seen it over and over. Sure, sometimes there's magic, like when David Cain as a senior is amazing despite having barely played before. Mostly though what happens is that a player or a team put it all together because suddenly they're all grown up. Like what happened to Dom Pointer - a senior. Or Donald Emanuel - a senior. Or like how Lavin made the tournament twice, both times with a bunch of seniors. Louie made the hall of fame playing seniors - because except in rare instances they were bigger and smarter and more mature than their younger team mates. I would think that self-evident: that four years in a course of university study engenders improvement in the student. It seems self evident to me that senior math majors are better at math than freshmen. That senior art majors are better painters than freshmen. That seems to be the entire basis of pedagogy.

You're free to believe that because Lavin once nodded to you in the hallway or whatever he's a great coach who praise god laid hands upon DJ Kennedy and a miracle occurred. The evidence though is that he's a charlatan and that the divine relic you're worshiping is a fugazi.
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I dont believe Lavin was a great coach and I killed him plenty his final year and also at games which tons of posters can verify because I sit with them, I just don't believe he was as bad as some say and I don't think he is nearly as bad a person as some say

I believe in incremental progress like you also BUT this is FACT

Norms last 3 teams went 5-13 6-12 and 6-12 in conference play where competition increases outside of cupcakes

Fact there was no incremental progress between the 2nd and 3rd year for those kids. They went 6-12 each year. That is an indisputable fact.

What is also fact is cbssportsline rated Norm;s last season strength of schedule a 72 and Lavins a 21. So they are saying Lavins first year SOS ranking was over 200% higher ranked actually almost 250% higher than the year before and Lavin with the same players got 100% better conference results turning 6-12 to 12-6. This isn't me speculating. This is FACT
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Norm's last season those kids were 0-7 vs ranked teams and 6-12 in conference. The next year the same kids were 6-7 against ranked teams and 12-6 in conference. That's not just getting a year older. That's on the new staff that Lavin put together. Side note, in 09/10 BE was #3 in conference RPI, in 10/11 they were #1 so he did it against a stronger conference too. I think, however, that STJ only get a season and a bit out of Lavin and like many have said he was relatively useless (or even more useless depending on who you are) after the cancer.

And I was critical of the Mullin hiring from day one but you got to give him more than 38 games before you start solidifying your opinions. Especially since he was so inexperienced coming in, you have to hope he's still in the learning curve phase and better days are coming. If we're still saying that after 4 years this thread would be appropriate.
 
I love how Lavin detractors use the argument that the supporters were given a nod, wink, smile or were spoken to as the reason for their support. What utter nonsense.
 
But the FACT is those kids had never won when the schedule got harder in conference play so just because you think magically they were going to win because they were seniors doesn't mean it's so
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Here's a FACT: if you write the word fact in capital letters it doesn't make what you said truer.

I don't believe in magic. I believe in incremental progress, because I've seen it over and over. Sure, sometimes there's magic, like when David Cain as a senior is amazing despite having barely played before. Mostly though what happens is that a player or a team put it all together because suddenly they're all grown up. Like what happened to Dom Pointer - a senior. Or Donald Emanuel - a senior. Or like how Lavin made the tournament twice, both times with a bunch of seniors. Louie made the hall of fame playing seniors - because except in rare instances they were bigger and smarter and more mature than their younger team mates. I would think that self-evident: that four years in a course of university study engenders improvement in the student. It seems self evident to me that senior math majors are better at math than freshmen. That senior art majors are better painters than freshmen. That seems to be the entire basis of pedagogy.

You're free to believe that because Lavin once nodded to you in the hallway or whatever he's a great coach who praise god laid hands upon DJ Kennedy and a miracle occurred. The evidence though is that he's a charlatan and that the divine relic you're worshiping is a fugazi.
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I dont believe Lavin was a great coach and I killed him plenty his final year and also at games which tons of posters can verify because I sit with them, I just don't believe he was as bad as some say and I don't think he is nearly as bad a person as some say

I believe in incremental progress like you also BUT this is FACT

Norms last 3 teams went 5-13 6-12 and 6-12 in conference play where competition increases outside of cupcakes

Fact there was no incremental progress between the 2nd and 3rd year for those kids. They went 6-12 each year. That is an indisputable fact.

What is also fact is cbssportsline rated Norm;s last season strength of schedule a 72 and Lavins a 21. So they are saying Lavins first year SOS ranking was over 200% higher ranked actually almost 250% higher than the year before and Lavin with the same players got 100% better conference results turning 6-12 to 12-6. This isn't me speculating. This is FACT
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Norm's last season those kids were 0-7 vs ranked teams and 6-12 in conference. The next year the same kids were 6-7 against ranked teams and 12-6 in conference. That's not just getting a year older. That's on the new staff that Lavin put together. Side note, in 09/10 BE was #3 in conference RPI, in 10/11 they were #1 so he did it against a stronger conference too. I think, however, that STJ only get a season and a bit out of Lavin and like many have said he was relatively useless (or even more useless depending on who you are) after the cancer.

And I was critical of the Mullin hiring from day one but you got to give him more than 38 games before you start solidifying your opinions. Especially since he was so inexperienced coming in, you have to hope he's still in the learning curve phase and better days are coming. If we're still saying that after 4 years this thread would be appropriate.
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great post
 
"That f'n Monte" !!

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Steve Lavin to wife Mary:
"Hi honey, hope all is well at the Yoga studio. I hear my old friend Bucknasty is working on getting Chris Mullin fired. Should I try to stage a comeback at St. John's? I hate this bungalow we are living in and would like to put in a low ball bid on Mullin's Port Washington house. What do you think?"
Mary to Steve:
" Great idea honey! I miss working with the team. I think all these Steve Lavin kids need is a little Yoga and meditation. Go for it!"
Steve to Mary:
"OK babe! Do you think if I buy all the existing inventory of the Weasles that Fun will support me on redmen.com and on Johnny Jungle or do you think he will just say F.O.A.D.?"
Mary to Steve:
"I know honey. He will be a tough nut to crack but we're only talking 20 or 30 8 tracks in his basement so it is worth a try. I'm more worried about OTIS. He's a mod and may delete all of Bucknasty's FIRE MULLIN posts. Then what?"
Steve to Mary:
"Then I would arrange a sit down with The Maven, OTIS, Slice and Tom Pecora at Rao's. I will broker peace with the four families. If they don't accept, at the end of the dinner I want you to come out of the ladies room with the gun I hid in the Tampex dispenser. Shoot the Maven, OTIS and Slice between the eyes. Leave Pecora alone. He's going to be my associate head coach.....right after he drives up to Albany and delivers some cannoli to that Fun guy. I'm also looking into the immigration status of that Pinoy president. I need him to get deported before I take the job of re resurrecting St. John's. BTW, where did you put my hammer and rock?"
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The only problem with this post is I don't think he will be emailing Mary about this stuff
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Yeah he always seemed more like an Anthony Weiner texter.
 
But the FACT is those kids had never won when the schedule got harder in conference play so just because you think magically they were going to win because they were seniors doesn't mean it's so
Click to expand...

Here's a FACT: if you write the word fact in capital letters it doesn't make what you said truer.

I don't believe in magic. I believe in incremental progress, because I've seen it over and over. Sure, sometimes there's magic, like when David Cain as a senior is amazing despite having barely played before. Mostly though what happens is that a player or a team put it all together because suddenly they're all grown up. Like what happened to Dom Pointer - a senior. Or Donald Emanuel - a senior. Or like how Lavin made the tournament twice, both times with a bunch of seniors. Louie made the hall of fame playing seniors - because except in rare instances they were bigger and smarter and more mature than their younger team mates. I would think that self-evident: that four years in a course of university study engenders improvement in the student. It seems self evident to me that senior math majors are better at math than freshmen. That senior art majors are better painters than freshmen. That seems to be the entire basis of pedagogy.

You're free to believe that because Lavin once nodded to you in the hallway or whatever he's a great coach who praise god laid hands upon DJ Kennedy and a miracle occurred. The evidence though is that he's a charlatan and that the divine relic you're worshiping is a fugazi.
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I dont believe Lavin was a great coach and I killed him plenty his final year and also at games which tons of posters can verify because I sit with them, I just don't believe he was as bad as some say and I don't think he is nearly as bad a person as some say

I believe in incremental progress like you also BUT this is FACT

Norms last 3 teams went 5-13 6-12 and 6-12 in conference play where competition increases outside of cupcakes

Fact there was no incremental progress between the 2nd and 3rd year for those kids. They went 6-12 each year. That is an indisputable fact.

What is also fact is cbssportsline rated Norm;s last season strength of schedule a 72 and Lavins a 21. So they are saying Lavins first year SOS ranking was over 200% higher ranked actually almost 250% higher than the year before and Lavin with the same players got 100% better conference results turning 6-12 to 12-6. This isn't me speculating. This is FACT
Click to expand...

Norm's last season those kids were 0-7 vs ranked teams and 6-12 in conference. The next year the same kids were 6-7 against ranked teams and 12-6 in conference. That's not just getting a year older. That's on the new staff that Lavin put together. Side note, in 09/10 BE was #3 in conference RPI, in 10/11 they were #1 so he did it against a stronger conference too. I think, however, that STJ only get a season and a bit out of Lavin and like many have said he was relatively useless (or even more useless depending on who you are) after the cancer.

And I was critical of the Mullin hiring from day one but you got to give him more than 38 games before you start solidifying your opinions. Especially since he was so inexperienced coming in, you have to hope he's still in the learning curve phase and better days are coming. If we're still saying that after 4 years this thread would be appropriate.
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I think we can all agree that Norm sucked, and most agree that Lav sucked just a little less than Norm. Neither was the answer. Thankfully both shipped have long sailed.
 
"That f'n Monte" !!

[attachment]image-41.jpeg[/attachment]
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Steve Lavin to wife Mary:
"Hi honey, hope all is well at the Yoga studio. I hear my old friend Bucknasty is working on getting Chris Mullin fired. Should I try to stage a comeback at St. John's? I hate this bungalow we are living in and would like to put in a low ball bid on Mullin's Port Washington house. What do you think?"
Mary to Steve:
" Great idea honey! I miss working with the team. I think all these Steve Lavin kids need is a little Yoga and meditation. Go for it!"
Steve to Mary:
"OK babe! Do you think if I buy all the existing inventory of the Weasles that Fun will support me on redmen.com and on Johnny Jungle or do you think he will just say F.O.A.D.?"
Mary to Steve:
"I know honey. He will be a tough nut to crack but we're only talking 20 or 30 8 tracks in his basement so it is worth a try. I'm more worried about OTIS. He's a mod and may delete all of Bucknasty's FIRE MULLIN posts. Then what?"
Steve to Mary:
"Then I would arrange a sit down with The Maven, OTIS, Slice and Tom Pecora at Rao's. I will broker peace with the four families. If they don't accept, at the end of the dinner I want you to come out of the ladies room with the gun I hid in the Tampex dispenser. Shoot the Maven, OTIS and Slice between the eyes. Leave Pecora alone. He's going to be my associate head coach.....right after he drives up to Albany and delivers some cannoli to that Fun guy. I'm also looking into the immigration status of that Pinoy president. I need him to get deported before I take the job of re resurrecting St. John's. BTW, where did you put my hammer and rock?"
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The only problem with this post is I don't think he will be emailing Mary about this stuff
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Yeah he always seemed more like an Anthony Weiner texter.
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Or Anthony weiner texter
 
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