Avon, I respect your opinion, but there's a time and place for everything. And booing Lavin in front of his players on Senior Day at the Garden -- a meaningful day they're sharing with the coach who recruited them, who mentored them (especially DLO), and for whom they obviously have great affection -- wasn't it. It's like going to a friend's wedding and booing his father when he walks down the aisle because you don't like him: it gets attention, but it's in poor taste and, let's face it, aside from infuriating those who disapprove of such behavior, it's of zero consequence.
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Avon, I respect your opinion, but there's a time and place for everything. And booing Lavin in front of his players on Senior Day at the Garden -- a meaningful day they're sharing with the coach who recruited them, who mentored them (especially DLO), and for whom they obviously have great affection -- wasn't it. It's like going to a friend's wedding and booing his father when he walks down the aisle because you don't like him: it gets attention, but it's in poor taste and, let's face it, aside from infuriating those who disapprove of such behavior, it's of zero consequence.
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TBH, I didn't feel good about calling you out. I know you're a big fan.
Over the years, especially when I was younger, I've yelled a few things at games in the heat of a moment that I wasn't proud of. The difference between my transgressions and yours is that 1) I immediately knew they were dumb things, and 2) they were always directed at the opponent, not our own guys.
Since a few days have elapsed, and you don't see anything wrong with booing Lavin before the biggest game of the year, during a hot streak by the team, and on Senior day no less, then we aren't going to resolve anything here.
When I root for a team, they are ALL my guys. I hated NR as coach for the last few years but was even rooting for him to win until the very last moment of his tenure. When it was over, I was glad he was fired. If Lavin fails, he won't be renewed, and I'm in with that. Until then, I root for him, whether I like him or not.
If it makes you feel better, I think I stated I would feel like kicking you in the back, not the head. Considering where I grew up, your lucky I didn't suggest having you whacked.
We just got our 21 st win of the season, and a road win no less. As Louie used to say a Big East road win is like 2 at home. We will dance in 2015.
Can we please give this thread a rest for a few weeks , that is until our season is over ?
Is that too much to ask ?
Thank you.
Can we please give this thread a rest for a few weeks , that is until our season is over ?
Is that too much to ask ?
Thank you.
I stayed out this thread and somewhat away from this board due to the toxicity. Frankly, this thread is disrespectful to the staff and, more so, to this community. Some folks aren't even aware or don't care about the community, as long as they can spout and spew their madness. They feel it's their opinion, and they should be allowed to say or do whatever they want without any regard to the community. Like I've said before, pull that act in person and be ostracized and viewed as a jerk. Or, get your teeth knocked out depending on who you're dealing with.
There are folks who have stayed away (in some ways, myself included) due to the level of foolishness on here. If losing key members on the board is fine, then so be it. I don't call the shots here. What the eff ever....
Keep rollin', Johnnies!
Avon Barksdale
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I usually just ignore your posts because they're not even worth my time and I can feel my IQ dropping as I read them but I will break this down as simple as possible for you because you can't fathom this: my agenda is for SJU to be competitive every single year And for the coach to work hard recruiting and have us in position to be in the NCAAs every year. Being in another rebuild in year six is not acceptable. If you don't understand this I'll try to use pictures in all my future posts directed at you so you can follow easily. Ok? Do you understand?
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St. John's Red Storm (Big East Conference) (2010–present)
2010–11 St. John's 21–12 12–6 5th NCAA Second Round
2011–12 St. John's 2−2 - T-11th
2012–13 St. John's 17–16 8–10 11th NIT Second Round
2013–14 St. John's 20–13 10–8 T–3rd NIT First Round
2014–15 St. John's 21−9 10−7
St. John's: 81–52 (.609) 40–31 (.563)
Does anyone need to see the following again, except in comparison to the above?
2004–05 St. John's 9-18 3-13 13th
2005–06 St. John's 12-15 5-11 T-13th
2006–07 St. John's 16-15 7-9 11th
2007–08 St. John's 11-19 5-13 14th
2008–09 St. John's 16-18 6-12 13th CBI, First Round
2009–10 St. John's 17-16 6-12 13th NIT, First Round
St. John's: 81-101 32-70
Total: 105-185
2010–11 St. John's 21–12 12–6 5th NCAA Second Round
2011–12 St. John's 2−2 - T-11th
2012–13 St. John's 17–16 8–10 11th NIT Second Round
2013–14 St. John's 20–13 10–8 T–3rd NIT First Round
2014–15 St. John's 21−9 10−7
St. John's: 81–52 (.609) 40–31 (.563)
Does anyone need to see the following again, except in comparison to the above?
2004–05 St. John's 9-18 3-13 13th
2005–06 St. John's 12-15 5-11 T-13th
2006–07 St. John's 16-15 7-9 11th
2007–08 St. John's 11-19 5-13 14th
2008–09 St. John's 16-18 6-12 13th CBI, First Round
2009–10 St. John's 17-16 6-12 13th NIT, First Round
St. John's: 81-101 32-70
Total: 105-185
beast of the east
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The venerated Ed Cooley:
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Fairfield (Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference) (2006–2011)
2006–07 Fairfield 13–19 10–8 T–5th
2007–08 Fairfield 14–16 11–7 T–5th
2008–09 Fairfield 17–15 9–9 T–4th
2009–10 Fairfield 23–11 13–5 2nd CIT Second Round
2010–11 Fairfield 25–8 15–3 1st NIT Second Round
Fairfield: 92–69 (.571) 58–32 (.644)
Providence (Big East Conference) (2011–present)
2011–12 Providence 15–17 4–14 15th
2012–13 Providence 19–15 9–9 T–9th NIT Quarterfinals
2013–14 Providence 23–12 10–8 T–3rd NCAA Second Round
2014–15 Providence 17–6 7–3
Providence: 74–50 (.597) 30–34 (.469)
Total: 166–119 (.582)
Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason
Fairfield (Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference) (2006–2011)
2006–07 Fairfield 13–19 10–8 T–5th
2007–08 Fairfield 14–16 11–7 T–5th
2008–09 Fairfield 17–15 9–9 T–4th
2009–10 Fairfield 23–11 13–5 2nd CIT Second Round
2010–11 Fairfield 25–8 15–3 1st NIT Second Round
Fairfield: 92–69 (.571) 58–32 (.644)
Providence (Big East Conference) (2011–present)
2011–12 Providence 15–17 4–14 15th
2012–13 Providence 19–15 9–9 T–9th NIT Quarterfinals
2013–14 Providence 23–12 10–8 T–3rd NCAA Second Round
2014–15 Providence 17–6 7–3
Providence: 74–50 (.597) 30–34 (.469)
Total: 166–119 (.582)
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I think we all want the things you stated above but it is not necessary to denigrate a fellow fan and poster to make that point.
As for the pictures, that is my current schtick! Yours better be funny! B)
Finally, while we seem to agree the staff, with Lavin in particular, have not closed deals the past two years, and, other than the year coach was struck with cancer (not a funny subject with all due respects to Dr. Fun), the fans who do not need pictures for your explanation and who are much more objective see that Lavin has indeed put St. John's in a position for post season every year he has been on the bench. Two NCAA's and 2 NIT's for a program left raped and ravaged by your old mentor Jar head and the holy Vincention exorcism directed by a "safe" Catholic black coach is the main reason why you fear for a future that has not arrived as yet. As I told you in private next year will be a rebuild regardless of who is coach. My problem with yours and others here is none of you can come up with a visible national brand coach to replace the wizard and are content with a mid major guy to lead us to post season every year in one of the toughest conferences in America. To just want a coach fired because you just want "change " may be the equivalent of throwing out the baby with the bath water.
All that may be left in your scenario is a dirty ring around the tub.
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