Next Coach?

[Avon Barksdale]

55. Very tidy. I was in 59 for non SJU games back in the day. almost end court but close. 55 must have been near center court. I was near center court front row 200's for STJ though.

yes they were pretty much center court i think they were best seats in the house....

 

[we are sju]

Wow this thread still going? Personally as I have said if we make the tourney I think he has done the absolute minimum but I would give him an extension. The funny thing to me is people seem to have more hatred towards Lavin then the worst coach in the history of the universe. Imagine Norm would have had this much success. There would have been a vote to change Louie arena to the Norm Dome.

 

[Class of 72]

55. Very tidy. I was in 59 for non SJU games back in the day. almost end court but close. 55 must have been near center court. I was near center court front row 200's for STJ though.

yes they were pretty much center court i think they were best seats in the house....

Not as good as the press seats courtside compliments of Hoops Weiss back in the day.

 

[simplyred]

I can even argue that the team shouldnt have been on the bubble at all this year, with the elite talent we have

News alert: Avon Barksdale proclaims that Steve Lavin brings in elite talent! Extend Now!

 

[Knight]

Wow this thread still going? Personally as I have said if we make the tourney I think he has done the absolute minimum but I would give him an extension. The funny thing to me is people seem to have more hatred towards Lavin then the worst coach in the history of the universe. Imagine Norm would have had this much success. There would have been a vote to change Louie arena to the Norm Dome.

Jarvis was the worst because of his personal character. Much better x & o, but despicable.

 

[Jack Williams]

Where's sirvoo we need to know if he was in section 116

 

[Marillac]

I find it odd that we kill Lavin (and Jarvis) for winning with someone else's players, but then 50-75% of the board wants Holtmann to win Big East C.O.Y. for doing the same thing.

The grass is always greener with our fans.

 

[Marillac]

Wow this thread still going? Personally as I have said if we make the tourney I think he has done the absolute minimum but I would give him an extension. The funny thing to me is people seem to have more hatred towards Lavin then the worst coach in the history of the universe. Imagine Norm would have had this much success. There would have been a vote to change Louie arena to the Norm Dome.

We are in the same boat. Three 20-win seasons in four full years as a St. John's coach. He keeps this up forget about an extension...he'll have a statue. There are several scenarios that could leave us with a better team next season after all the moaning and negativity.

 

[we are sju]

Wow this thread still going? Personally as I have said if we make the tourney I think he has done the absolute minimum but I would give him an extension. The funny thing to me is people seem to have more hatred towards Lavin then the worst coach in the history of the universe. Imagine Norm would have had this much success. There would have been a vote to change Louie arena to the Norm Dome.

Jarvis was the worst because of his personal character. Much better x & o, but despicable.

We judge basketball coaches much differently.

Hopefully you don't put as much faith in moral fiber when picking a surgeon. Having good character is nice in a friend or a neighbor but not necessarily in a basketball coach.

 

[Class of 72]

I can even argue that the team shouldnt have been on the bubble at all this year, with the elite talent we have

News alert: Avon Barksdale proclaims that Steve Lavin brings in elite talent! Extend Now!

Lol! HIT would never admit that as it is not in his DNA. Fact is we lost two games because that elite talent was not on the team in two games we lost and this team, at 22 wins, would not be 1 game away from an assured NCAA bid. Fact is this team has almost zero points coming from the bench in most games yet may earn a bid. That my fickle redmen fans is credit to both the coaches and players.

 

[1and1sju]

Wow this thread still going? Personally as I have said if we make the tourney I think he has done the absolute minimum but I would give him an extension. The funny thing to me is people seem to have more hatred towards Lavin then the worst coach in the history of the universe. Imagine Norm would have had this much success. There would have been a vote to change Louie arena to the Norm Dome.

We are in the same boat. Three 20-win seasons in four full years as a St. John's coach. He keeps this up forget about an extension...he'll have a statue. There are several scenarios that could leave us with a better team next season after all the moaning and negativity.

There are ZERO scenarios in which we will have a better team next season.
Don't lie to the people Marillac

 

[mjmaherjr]

Wow this thread still going? Personally as I have said if we make the tourney I think he has done the absolute minimum but I would give him an extension. The funny thing to me is people seem to have more hatred towards Lavin then the worst coach in the history of the universe. Imagine Norm would have had this much success. There would have been a vote to change Louie arena to the Norm Dome.

We are in the same boat. Three 20-win seasons in four full years as a St. John's coach. He keeps this up forget about an extension...he'll have a statue. There are several scenarios that could leave us with a better team next season after all the moaning and negativity.

There are ZERO scenarios in which we will have a better team next season.
Don't lie to the people Marillac

I could see just 1. If Jordan and Chris come back and we get Freeman who along with Sampson become impact players right away and throw in the Greek Kid or Diallo

 

[Class of 72]

Wow this thread still going? Personally as I have said if we make the tourney I think he has done the absolute minimum but I would give him an extension. The funny thing to me is people seem to have more hatred towards Lavin then the worst coach in the history of the universe. Imagine Norm would have had this much success. There would have been a vote to change Louie arena to the Norm Dome.

Jarvis was the worst because of his personal character. Much better x & o, but despicable.

We judge basketball coaches much differently.

Hopefully you don't put as much faith in moral fiber when picking a surgeon. Having good character is nice in a friend or a neighbor but not necessarily in a basketball coach.

How does one measure moral fiber in a surgeon? If he is banging the nurse during surgery I would worry about selecting him to cut me open.
As for a coach, a parent is entrusting their 18 year old to them and if that coach is banging milfs after hours in Italian restaurants I would worry my kid may think it is ok to bang sorority girls when they say "no". Coaches set the culture on teams not the players. But why revisit the last 2 Jarvis years when some opinionated fans know what the future holds in recruits and wins and losses. I can swear a few of you guys wear turbans.

Edit: Just found a picture of Ricky Smith.

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[paultzman]

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Wow this thread still going? Personally as I have said if we make the tourney I think he has done the absolute minimum but I would give him an extension. The funny thing to me is people seem to have more hatred towards Lavin then the worst coach in the history of the universe. Imagine Norm would have had this much success. There would have been a vote to change Louie arena to the Norm Dome.

We are in the same boat. Three 20-win seasons in four full years as a St. John's coach. He keeps this up forget about an extension...he'll have a statue. There are several scenarios that could leave us with a better team next season after all the moaning and negativity.

There are ZERO scenarios in which we will have a better team next season.
Don't lie to the people Marillac

Thank you Desco

 

[dee]

Cluess with Rex Ryan as defensive coordinator I could live with. Without Rex then I'll pass

you would pass? nope you should run lol
Lombardi would have run guaranteed

 

[Class of 72]

Wow this thread still going? Personally as I have said if we make the tourney I think he has done the absolute minimum but I would give him an extension. The funny thing to me is people seem to have more hatred towards Lavin then the worst coach in the history of the universe. Imagine Norm would have had this much success. There would have been a vote to change Louie arena to the Norm Dome.

We are in the same boat. Three 20-win seasons in four full years as a St. John's coach. He keeps this up forget about an extension...he'll have a statue. There are several scenarios that could leave us with a better team next season after all the moaning and negativity.

There are ZERO scenarios in which we will have a better team next season.
Don't lie to the people Marillac

I could see just 1. If Jordan and Chris come back and we get Freeman who along with Sampson become impact players right away and throw in the Greek Kid or Diallo

All of those scenarios are possible since in my humble opinion the two big...really BIG losses will be Harrison and Pointer. But they may be replaceable if Jordan and Obekpa stay and Sampson is as advertised. One thing is for sure, we will have a deeper bench if some of the kids they are targeting sign up. Bottom line is it all a crap shoot right now.

 

[ras]

I can even argue that the team shouldnt have been on the bubble at all this year, with the elite talent we have

News alert: Avon Barksdale proclaims that Steve Lavin brings in elite talent! Extend Now!

Lol! HIT would never admit that as it is not in his DNA. Fact is we lost two games because that elite talent was not on the team in two games we lost and this team, at 22 wins, would not be 1 game away from an assured NCAA bid. Fact is this team has almost zero points coming from the bench in most games yet may earn a bid. That my fickle redmen fans is credit to both the coaches and players.

You can credit Lavin w the success of the team. But the lack of bench is on him. Re . Next year if CO and Sheed return, we can be good. If not, we are the youngest team in America again, and next year will be ugly. Time will tell. IMO Lavin should be evaluated at the end of the season. Taking into account NCAAs and next years roster.

 

[bobo]

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http://nypost.com/2015/03/03/seniors-finally-rewarded-for-blind-faith-in-lavin-st-johns/

 

[1and1sju]

Wow this thread still going? Personally as I have said if we make the tourney I think he has done the absolute minimum but I would give him an extension. The funny thing to me is people seem to have more hatred towards Lavin then the worst coach in the history of the universe. Imagine Norm would have had this much success. There would have been a vote to change Louie arena to the Norm Dome.

We are in the same boat. Three 20-win seasons in four full years as a St. John's coach. He keeps this up forget about an extension...he'll have a statue. There are several scenarios that could leave us with a better team next season after all the moaning and negativity.

There are ZERO scenarios in which we will have a better team next season.
Don't lie to the people Marillac

I could see just 1. If Jordan and Chris come back and we get Freeman who along with Sampson become impact players right away and throw in the Greek Kid or Diallo

All of those scenarios are possible since in my humble opinion the two big...really BIG losses will be Harrison and Pointer. But they may be replaceable if Jordan and Obekpa stay and Sampson is as advertised. One thing is for sure, we will have a deeper bench if some of the kids they are targeting sign up. Bottom line is it all a crap shoot right now.

It's a crap shoot because it's March and we have only half our recruiting done. The rest of the teams in this conference went through this process months ago, when many more players were available.

 

[Avon Barksdale]

I can even argue that the team shouldnt have been on the bubble at all this year, with the elite talent we have

News alert: Avon Barksdale proclaims that Steve Lavin brings in elite talent! Extend Now!

Lol! HIT would never admit that as it is not in his DNA. Fact is we lost two games because that elite talent was not on the team in two games we lost and this team, at 22 wins, would not be 1 game away from an assured NCAA bid. Fact is this team has almost zero points coming from the bench in most games yet may earn a bid. That my fickle redmen fans is credit to both the coaches and players.

You can credit Lavin w the success of the team. But the lack of bench is on him. Re . Next year if CO and Sheed return, w can be good. If not, we are the youngest team in America again, and next year will be ugly. Time will tell. IMO Lavin should be evaluated at the end of the season. Taking into account NCAAs and next years roster.

We have tremendous talent. We had more talent last season with Sampson and Sanchez. I never said the talent wasn't the problem, and I thought when lavin was hired originally it would work if he had an Xs and Os coach to supplement his recruiting.

You can have be best ingredients in the world but what's the point if the chef sucks?!?!....and that's pretty much how I'll sum up the last three years of SJU baskeyball.

I've always said that Lavin is a good recruiter (when he tries) but he is s an abomination of a game coach.

The problem is he's been very lazy on the recruiting trail since signing the holy 11 class.