Next Coach?

[simplyred]

Shut it down shut it down. Let the grumpy old men bitch and moan on their own, somewhere else. Coach and the team has got us to the tourney. Delete this pathetic thread.

I am old, grumpy, well according to my wife, big time , but I fail to understand why it is not ok to feel and express that Lavin has accomplished too little in his 5 years here to renew him. I understand disagreeing and supporting Lavin, I have no problem with that at all, those opinions are as valid as mine. I also understand not knocking him at this point in time which I at least, have backed off of. I also have backed off of posting because of the inane theory by many on the board that not supporting Lavin means you don't support or root for the team. Ok, so be it, I will temper my posting, who really cares? But I have been a Johnnies fan for half a century and even if I were the only poster not in favor of Lavin, why can't I post that? Disagree, post why I am wrong but to censor what can or can't be posted is ridiculous. I could make a very strong argument that Pointer is to Lavin this year what Cain was to Mahoney his first year and how did that work out? But this post is not to knock Lavin; whether I think it was because of Pointer, or the blind squirrel theory, or whatever, Lavin HAS done a good job with this team. Regardless of whether they make the tournament or not, they ARE a demonstrably better team than last year. If anyone thinks that is enough to extend him, OK, express that. But I should have the same opportunity to dissent as long as it is done within the rules Paul has established. That is what a free exchange of ideas is all about. And for all those who think I will be traumatized should Lavin be extended, I will be right here, rooting and posting it as I see it. I may be wrong in my views as others see it but from where I sit that is what makes this site fantastic.

There's a difference between critics like you, and those with an agenda that clearly has nothing to do with the team or actual coaching.

I'm a strong Lavin supporter, but I also may be wrong in my views, and I hope I can - like you - critically observe and if necessary change my opinion.

Speaking for myself, I welcome critics like you. I would be quite frightened (and despair for the world!) if everyone I spoke to agreed with me.

It is the others, the visceral haters, that, in my opinion, detract from this board, that I'd like to see gone.

Back under their rock, I say!!

Hear, hear!

 

[Ricky Smith]

Did I just dream that entire conversation? Baldi?

Ya seems that way. Guess you are alive in my dream under the bridge?

waking up and reading you is just an awful start to one's day.
i remember the day when the mods here had the balls to ban you.
you've got 2 in your corner and, unfortunately, that's all it takes.

You continue to criticize myself and now the mods and that's considered acceptable? Please try to stay on topic and not flame the board. Borderline stalkerish

 

[tom in salem]

Did I just dream that entire conversation? Baldi?

Ya seems that way. Guess you are alive in my dream under the bridge?

waking up and reading you is just an awful start to one's day.
i remember the day when the mods here had the balls to ban you.
you've got 2 in your corner and, unfortunately, that's all it takes.

You continue to criticize myself and now the mods and that's considered acceptable? Please try to stay on topic and not flame the board. Borderline stalkerish

You win.
I'm out of here.
Enjoy.

 

[rawdognyc]

Did I just dream that entire conversation? Baldi?

Ya seems that way. Guess you are alive in my dream under the bridge?

waking up and reading you is just an awful start to one's day.
i remember the day when the mods here had the balls to ban you.
you've got 2 in your corner and, unfortunately, that's all it takes.

You continue to criticize myself and now the mods and that's considered acceptable? Please try to stay on topic and not flame the board. Borderline stalkerish

You win.
I'm out of here.
Enjoy.

Don't let the vermin on this board run you off Tom. We can't continue to lose good informative posters...

 

[redmaninalbany]

Tom
i dont get into the personal stuff over the years, but I have enjoyed your comments frequently. Rather than disappear, I think all of us should just stop belaboring the comments we find nonsensical.
No one really believes the last comment made on these forums is the valid one. Usually, things deteriorate so much the last comment is the most inane one. So, as you have done generally in the past, I respectfully suggest you keep the observations coming and just ignore what you consider drivel.
"A man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still"

 

[mjmaherjr]

Shut it down shut it down. Let the grumpy old men bitch and moan on their own, somewhere else. Coach and the team has got us to the tourney. Delete this pathetic thread.

I am old, grumpy, well according to my wife, big time , but I fail to understand why it is not ok to feel and express that Lavin has accomplished too little in his 5 years here to renew him. I understand disagreeing and supporting Lavin, I have no problem with that at all, those opinions are as valid as mine. I also understand not knocking him at this point in time which I at least, have backed off of. I also have backed off of posting because of the inane theory by many on the board that not supporting Lavin means you don't support or root for the team. Ok, so be it, I will temper my posting, who really cares? But I have been a Johnnies fan for half a century and even if I were the only poster not in favor of Lavin, why can't I post that? Disagree, post why I am wrong but to censor what can or can't be posted is ridiculous. I could make a very strong argument that Pointer is to Lavin this year what Cain was to Mahoney his first year and how did that work out? But this post is not to knock Lavin; whether I think it was because of Pointer, or the blind squirrel theory, or whatever, Lavin HAS done a good job with this team. Regardless of whether they make the tournament or not, they ARE a demonstrably better team than last year. If anyone thinks that is enough to extend him, OK, express that. But I should have the same opportunity to dissent as long as it is done within the rules Paul has established. That is what a free exchange of ideas is all about. And for all those who think I will be traumatized should Lavin be extended, I will be right here, rooting and posting it as I see it. I may be wrong in my views as others see it but from where I sit that is what makes this site fantastic.

for the record there has never even been 1 day where I considered you some sort of Lavin hater. I always have thought your posts were pretty fair minded and have enjoyed reading them

 

[Class of 72]

Did I just dream that entire conversation? Baldi?

Ya seems that way. Guess you are alive in my dream under the bridge?

waking up and reading you is just an awful start to one's day.
i remember the day when the mods here had the balls to ban you.
you've got 2 in your corner and, unfortunately, that's all it takes.

You continue to criticize myself and now the mods and that's considered acceptable? Please try to stay on topic and not flame the board. Borderline stalkerish

I have never been in favor of banning fans of our team for being overly critical of the coaching or the players. Fans are critical by nature. However, I find your use of terms like flame and stalkerish a classic case of pot calling the kettle black. From your numerous posts on St. John's fan forums it is apparent you are an interloper bent on predicting the worst case scenario whether with any current team or future teams. I am sure on any given day some of our resident bi-polars love your digs at our team and coaches. After losses and missing their meds they thrive here. I have no problem with them because when they are on the right dosage they are first and foremost St. John's basketball fans.
If want to be simply the antagonist here and just be a shit stirring A hole then take it like a man when you challenged instead of what you replied above. Also, if you are a St. John's fan show yourself after wins as much as when you do after a loss and all will be good.
I am not the biggest Lavin supporter but if you are here just to fck with my team and school you are lucky I am not a mod.

 

[Ricky Smith]

Did I just dream that entire conversation? Baldi?

Ya seems that way. Guess you are alive in my dream under the bridge?

waking up and reading you is just an awful start to one's day.
i remember the day when the mods here had the balls to ban you.
you've got 2 in your corner and, unfortunately, that's all it takes.

You continue to criticize myself and now the mods and that's considered acceptable? Please try to stay on topic and not flame the board. Borderline stalkerish

I have never been in favor of banning fans of our team for being overly critical of the coaching or the players. Fans are critical by nature. However, I find your use of term like flame and stalkerish a classic case of pot calling the kettle black. From your numerous posts on St. John's fan forums it is apparent you are an interloper bent on predicting the worst case scenario whether with any current team or future teams. I am sure on any given day some of our resident bi-polars love your digs at our team and coaches. After losses and missing their meds they thrive here. I have no problem with them because when they are on the right dosage they are first and foremost St. John's basketball fans.
If want to be simply the antagonist here and just be a shit stirring A hole then take it like a man when you challenged instead of what you replied above. Also, if you are a St. John's fan show yourself after wins as much as when you do after a loss and all will be good.
I am not the biggest Lavin supporter but if you are here just to fck with my team and school you are lucky I am not a mod.

So you're saying you want me to post more?

 

[Class of 72]

Did I just dream that entire conversation? Baldi?

Ya seems that way. Guess you are alive in my dream under the bridge?

waking up and reading you is just an awful start to one's day.
i remember the day when the mods here had the balls to ban you.
you've got 2 in your corner and, unfortunately, that's all it takes.

You continue to criticize myself and now the mods and that's considered acceptable? Please try to stay on topic and not flame the board. Borderline stalkerish

I have never been in favor of banning fans of our team for being overly critical of the coaching or the players. Fans are critical by nature. However, I find your use of term like flame and stalkerish a classic case of pot calling the kettle black. From your numerous posts on St. John's fan forums it is apparent you are an interloper bent on predicting the worst case scenario whether with any current team or future teams. I am sure on any given day some of our resident bi-polars love your digs at our team and coaches. After losses and missing their meds they thrive here. I have no problem with them because when they are on the right dosage they are first and foremost St. John's basketball fans.
If want to be simply the antagonist here and just be a shit stirring A hole then take it like a man when you challenged instead of what you replied above. Also, if you are a St. John's fan show yourself after wins as much as when you do after a loss and all will be good.
I am not the biggest Lavin supporter but if you are here just to fck with my team and school you are lucky I am not a mod.

So you're saying you want me to post more?

Just reread my last sentence and you will understand what I want.

 

[Ricky Smith]

Did I just dream that entire conversation? Baldi?

Ya seems that way. Guess you are alive in my dream under the bridge?

waking up and reading you is just an awful start to one's day.
i remember the day when the mods here had the balls to ban you.
you've got 2 in your corner and, unfortunately, that's all it takes.

You continue to criticize myself and now the mods and that's considered acceptable? Please try to stay on topic and not flame the board. Borderline stalkerish

I have never been in favor of banning fans of our team for being overly critical of the coaching or the players. Fans are critical by nature. However, I find your use of term like flame and stalkerish a classic case of pot calling the kettle black. From your numerous posts on St. John's fan forums it is apparent you are an interloper bent on predicting the worst case scenario whether with any current team or future teams. I am sure on any given day some of our resident bi-polars love your digs at our team and coaches. After losses and missing their meds they thrive here. I have no problem with them because when they are on the right dosage they are first and foremost St. John's basketball fans.
If want to be simply the antagonist here and just be a shit stirring A hole then take it like a man when you challenged instead of what you replied above. Also, if you are a St. John's fan show yourself after wins as much as when you do after a loss and all will be good.
I am not the biggest Lavin supporter but if you are here just to fck with my team and school you are lucky I am not a mod.

So you're saying you want me to post more?

Just reread my last sentence and you will understand what I want.

Ya I noticed your threat the first time. But I'm trying to keep the thread on topic. It's not about me, it's about "next coach"

 

[jumbo_peanuts]

Any chance we can figure out a way to make this forum into a reality show? The drama on here could make us all alot of money!!

 

[redken]

Did I just dream that entire conversation? Baldi?

Ya seems that way. Guess you are alive in my dream under the bridge?

waking up and reading you is just an awful start to one's day.
i remember the day when the mods here had the balls to ban you.
you've got 2 in your corner and, unfortunately, that's all it takes.

You continue to criticize myself and now the mods and that's considered acceptable? Please try to stay on topic and not flame the board. Borderline stalkerish

I have never been in favor of banning fans of our team for being overly critical of the coaching or the players. Fans are critical by nature. However, I find your use of term like flame and stalkerish a classic case of pot calling the kettle black. From your numerous posts on St. John's fan forums it is apparent you are an interloper bent on predicting the worst case scenario whether with any current team or future teams. I am sure on any given day some of our resident bi-polars love your digs at our team and coaches. After losses and missing their meds they thrive here. I have no problem with them because when they are on the right dosage they are first and foremost St. John's basketball fans.
If want to be simply the antagonist here and just be a shit stirring A hole then take it like a man when you challenged instead of what you replied above. Also, if you are a St. John's fan show yourself after wins as much as when you do after a loss and all will be good.
I am not the biggest Lavin supporter but if you are here just to fck with my team and school you are lucky I am not a mod.

So you're saying you want me to post more?

Just reread my last sentence and you will understand what I want.

Ya I noticed your threat the first time. But I'm trying to keep the thread on topic. It's not about me, it's about "next coach"

Very simple, then: Stop drawing attention to yourself. It's gotten very tiresome.

 

[Class of 72]

Did I just dream that entire conversation? Baldi?

Ya seems that way. Guess you are alive in my dream under the bridge?

waking up and reading you is just an awful start to one's day.
i remember the day when the mods here had the balls to ban you.
you've got 2 in your corner and, unfortunately, that's all it takes.

You continue to criticize myself and now the mods and that's considered acceptable? Please try to stay on topic and not flame the board. Borderline stalkerish

I have never been in favor of banning fans of our team for being overly critical of the coaching or the players. Fans are critical by nature. However, I find your use of term like flame and stalkerish a classic case of pot calling the kettle black. From your numerous posts on St. John's fan forums it is apparent you are an interloper bent on predicting the worst case scenario whether with any current team or future teams. I am sure on any given day some of our resident bi-polars love your digs at our team and coaches. After losses and missing their meds they thrive here. I have no problem with them because when they are on the right dosage they are first and foremost St. John's basketball fans.
If want to be simply the antagonist here and just be a shit stirring A hole then take it like a man when you challenged instead of what you replied above. Also, if you are a St. John's fan show yourself after wins as much as when you do after a loss and all will be good.
I am not the biggest Lavin supporter but if you are here just to fck with my team and school you are lucky I am not a mod.

So you're saying you want me to post more?

Just reread my last sentence and you will understand what I want.

Ya I noticed your threat the first time. But I'm trying to keep the thread on topic. It's not about me, it's about "next coach"

Sure you are
Well, here Ya go: it will not be Tim Cluess. Certain unnamed sources are pushing to fire Tom Pecora and hire Tim. I think he will do great in the A10. It will interesting to see if Jared Grasso returns to Fordham if that happens. Iona's next coach? Who would you like?

 

[redken]

Did I just dream that entire conversation? Baldi?

Ya seems that way. Guess you are alive in my dream under the bridge?

waking up and reading you is just an awful start to one's day.
i remember the day when the mods here had the balls to ban you.
you've got 2 in your corner and, unfortunately, that's all it takes.

You continue to criticize myself and now the mods and that's considered acceptable? Please try to stay on topic and not flame the board. Borderline stalkerish

I have never been in favor of banning fans of our team for being overly critical of the coaching or the players. Fans are critical by nature. However, I find your use of term like flame and stalkerish a classic case of pot calling the kettle black. From your numerous posts on St. John's fan forums it is apparent you are an interloper bent on predicting the worst case scenario whether with any current team or future teams. I am sure on any given day some of our resident bi-polars love your digs at our team and coaches. After losses and missing their meds they thrive here. I have no problem with them because when they are on the right dosage they are first and foremost St. John's basketball fans.
If want to be simply the antagonist here and just be a shit stirring A hole then take it like a man when you challenged instead of what you replied above. Also, if you are a St. John's fan show yourself after wins as much as when you do after a loss and all will be good.
I am not the biggest Lavin supporter but if you are here just to fck with my team and school you are lucky I am not a mod.

So you're saying you want me to post more?

Just reread my last sentence and you will understand what I want.

Ya I noticed your threat the first time. But I'm trying to keep the thread on topic. It's not about me, it's about "next coach"

Sure you are
Well, here Ya go: it will not be Tim Cluess. Certain unnamed sources are pushing to fire Tom Pecora and hire Tim. I think he will do great in the A10. It will interesting to see if Jared Grasso returns to Fordham if that happens. Iona's next coach? Who would you like?

'72, -- especially the "new" 72 -- stop letting this guy push your buttons. You're above this. Ignore him and he'll go away.

 

[Knight]

Barring a complete collapse, I do not see Lavin not getting extended.

 

[logen]

Shut it down shut it down. Let the grumpy old men bitch and moan on their own, somewhere else. Coach and the team has got us to the tourney. Delete this pathetic thread.

I am old, grumpy, well according to my wife, big time , but I fail to understand why it is not ok to feel and express that Lavin has accomplished too little in his 5 years here to renew him. I understand disagreeing and supporting Lavin, I have no problem with that at all, those opinions are as valid as mine. I also understand not knocking him at this point in time which I at least, have backed off of. I also have backed off of posting because of the inane theory by many on the board that not supporting Lavin means you don't support or root for the team. Ok, so be it, I will temper my posting, who really cares? But I have been a Johnnies fan for half a century and even if I were the only poster not in favor of Lavin, why can't I post that? Disagree, post why I am wrong but to censor what can or can't be posted is ridiculous. I could make a very strong argument that Pointer is to Lavin this year what Cain was to Mahoney his first year and how did that work out? But this post is not to knock Lavin; whether I think it was because of Pointer, or the blind squirrel theory, or whatever, Lavin HAS done a good job with this team. Regardless of whether they make the tournament or not, they ARE a demonstrably better team than last year. If anyone thinks that is enough to extend him, OK, express that. But I should have the same opportunity to dissent as long as it is done within the rules Paul has established. That is what a free exchange of ideas is all about. And for all those who think I will be traumatized should Lavin be extended, I will be right here, rooting and posting it as I see it. I may be wrong in my views as others see it but from where I sit that is what makes this site fantastic.

for the record there has never even been 1 day where I considered you some sort of Lavin hater. I always have thought your posts were pretty fair minded and have enjoyed reading them

Thank you, I very much appreciate that.

 

[JacStorm]

This from Zach Braziller:

Stock Watch: Up
Steve Lavin
Talks of a contract extension should be coming shortly for the St. John’s coach. After a slow start, Lavin has the Red Storm playing as well as anyone in the Big East, winners of six of their past seven, firmly in the NCAA Tournament field for the second time in five years with two regular-season games remaining. And unlike the Johnnies’ first trip to the tournament under Lavin, this team appears capable of doing serious damage. The fifth-year coach, who has just one year left on his current deal, has proven he deserves to be well-compensated.

 

[redmaninalbany]

NOTE TO RedmaninAlbany

IN THE NEAR FUTURE IF YOU ARE FIND YOURSELF READING THIS PREMATURE, FREQUENTLY REDUNDANT. AND PUERILE THREAD, WITH ALL ITS WHIMPERING AND PERSONAL ATTACKS, YOU MUST BAN YOURSELF FROM THE SITE TOTALLY FOR YOUR SHEER STUPIDITY.
WARNING: DO NOT RETURN TO THIS THREAD UNTIL AFTER MARCH WHEN IT IS CONCEIVABLE SOMEONE WILL POST A COHERENT AND PERTINENT COMMENT.

 

[beast of the east]

NOTE TO RedmaninAlbany

IN THE NEAR FUTURE IF YOU ARE FIND YOURSELF READING THIS PREMATURE, FREQUENTLY REDUNDANT. AND PUERILE THREAD, WITH ALL ITS WHIMPERING AND PERSONAL ATTACKS, YOU MUST BAN YOURSELF FROM THE SITE TOTALLY FOR YOUR SHEER STUPIDITY.
WARNING: DO NOT RETURN TO THIS THREAD UNTIL AFTER MARCH WHEN IT IS CONCEIVABLE SOMEONE WILL POST A COHERENT AND PERTINENT COMMENT.

Note to Redmaninalbany

All caps are a pain in the ass to read. Send yourself a PM if you want to take up disk space.

 

[gman]

This from Zach Braziller:

Stock Watch: Up
Steve Lavin
Talks of a contract extension should be coming shortly for the St. John’s coach. After a slow start, Lavin has the Red Storm playing as well as anyone in the Big East, winners of six of their past seven, firmly in the NCAA Tournament field for the second time in five years with two regular-season games remaining. And unlike the Johnnies’ first trip to the tournament under Lavin, this team appears capable of doing serious damage. The fifth-year coach, who has just one year left on his current deal, has proven he deserves to be well-compensated.

The 2011 squad was capable of beating anyone in the country.