Next Coach?

@NYPost_Brazille: Steve Masiello would make a lot of sense for #sjubb, and he's interested:
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thanks. just threw up my breakfast
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You have to expect a lot of campaigning for the job. It really isn't the lousy job some folks think it is. Loved Duran, btw Dink!
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@NYPost_Brazille: Steve Masiello would make a lot of sense for #sjubb, and he's interested:http://t.co/0k15YvIvOy
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thanks. just threw up my breakfast
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Does everyone hate Mas b/c he lied on his resume, or just b/c you think he is a bad coach?
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The lying on the resume thing to me is huge for a coach ( I don't hold students to the same standard for full disclosure ). I doth expect a coach to be pristine and I want them to get down and dirty recruiting wise.

Plus he has never even had his conference best regular season record in a league that for the most part sucks. You can sell me on Cluess as a last case possibility but if we are going to hire a coach I think we deserve better overall
 
@NYPost_Brazille: Steve Masiello would make a lot of sense for #sjubb, and he's interested:http://t.co/0k15YvIvOy
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thanks. just threw up my breakfast
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Does everyone hate Mas b/c he lied on his resume, or just b/c you think he is a bad coach?
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The lying on the resume thing to me is huge for a coach ( I don't hold students to the same standard for full disclosure ). I doth expect a coach to be pristine and I want them to get down and dirty recruiting wise.

Plus he has never even had his conference best regular season record in a league that for the most part sucks. You can sell me on Cluess as a last case possibility but if we are going to hire a coach I think we deserve better overall
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Note: Mullin has a degree, that he worked for in the off season and attained around 1998 or 1999. As he tells it, "For those of you who are thinking it, I wasn't in school for 18 years. I came back"
 
@NYPost_Brazille: Steve Masiello would make a lot of sense for #sjubb, and he's interested:http://t.co/0k15YvIvOy
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thanks. just threw up my breakfast
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Does everyone hate Mas b/c he lied on his resume, or just b/c you think he is a bad coach?
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The only positive about Masiello, imo, is that this might really be a destination for him, rather than a pit stop. As far as coaching ability, I enjoy seeing him beat Iona in the MAAC championship each year but, other than that, I haven't seen enough to say he is a good coach. I will admit, however, that I have always been a big fan of Pitino and think that he has produce good coaches. My biggest problem is that I get a creepy feeling each time I look at him.
 
@NYPost_Brazille: Steve Masiello would make a lot of sense for #sjubb, and he's interested:http://t.co/0k15YvIvOy
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thanks. just threw up my breakfast
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Does everyone hate Mas b/c he lied on his resume, or just b/c you think he is a bad coach?
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I think the resume thing is just a flag. All things considered, three stupid credits, there are worse crimes.

But it seems like them Jasper coaches are just nutjobz. And I think after Mahoney's failure, Fran's private parts showings in locker rooms, and what happened with Gonzo...do you really want to be the program that failed with three Manhattan coaches? Plus, he's a hothead type, a la D Hurl, and personally, I'm not a fan of such coaches.

SJU is such a sensitive li'l girl of a program sometimes, I just don't see the Alpha Male personality lasting long here. I'm more interested in Hurley at this point than Masiello, more of a splash. Both seem capable coaches, but Hurley seems to have more upside from a casual glance. And if either is interested in St. John's as much as being buzzed, I'd be glad to have a go-getter trying to implant their vision in a place not nearly as desirable as some might think.

I mean, look at the poll...lots of light experience (Bobby Hurley, Mullin), borderline madmen (D Hurl/Mas), and Pecora...PECORA??? Danny is probably the best option, Mullin being the most interesting.

But this program, this school...who the hell knows anymore? Whoever it is, I'll still root for this ridiculous basketball program. :)

peace.
 
@NYPost_Brazille: Steve Masiello would make a lot of sense for #sjubb, and he's interested:
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thanks. just threw up my breakfast
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They hire masiello and Boo Harvey walks!
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I've been a St. John's fan too long to just walk away. But man.... I'd be kinda ticked, if Masiello was hired.

As, stated by Paultz.... Just campaigning taking place. I agree, in reference to this not being a bad job, as a several folks may believe.
 
@NYPost_Brazille: Steve Masiello would make a lot of sense for #sjubb, and he's interested:
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thanks. just threw up my breakfast
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They hire masiello and Boo Harvey walks!
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Then again hire " the" Boo Harvey and Masiello walks...:)

Is it too much to "assume" ( that word) that the SJU powers have done some homework pre-Lavin announcement? That they already have a good feel for the best & available ( willing to take the damn job) fit?

I wonder.
 
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@NYPost_Brazille: Steve Masiello would make a lot of sense for #sjubb, and he's interested:http://t.co/0k15YvIvOy
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thanks. just threw up my breakfast
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Does everyone hate Mas b/c he lied on his resume, or just b/c you think he is a bad coach?
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The only positive about Masiello, imo, is that this might really be a destination for him, rather than a pit stop. As far as coaching ability, I enjoy seeing him beat Iona in the MAAC championship each year but, other than that, I haven't seen enough to say he is a good coach. I will admit, however, that I have always been a big fan of Pitino and think that he has produce good coaches. My biggest problem is that I get a creepy feeling each time I look at him.
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Good point on "destination" for him.
 
@NYPost_Brazille: Steve Masiello would make a lot of sense for #sjubb, and he's interested:
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thanks. just threw up my breakfast
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They hire masiello and Boo Harvey walks!
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I've been a St. John's fan too long to just walk away. But man.... I'd be kinda ticked, if Masiello was hired.

As, stated by Paultz.... Just campaigning taking place. I agree, in reference to this not being a bad job, as a several folks may believe.
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When did Sugar Ray Leonard come out of the closet?
 
@NYPost_Brazille: Steve Masiello would make a lot of sense for #sjubb, and he's interested:
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thanks. just threw up my breakfast
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They hire masiello and Boo Harvey walks!
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I've been a St. John's fan too long to just walk away. But man.... I'd be kinda ticked, if Masiello was hired.

As, stated by Paultz.... Just campaigning taking place. I agree, in reference to this not being a bad job, as a several folks may believe.
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When did Sugar Ray Leonard come out of the closet?
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LOL

Pants too tight, huh?
 
Actually, I'd prefer Mullin over the Hurleys at this juncture. I'm not sure about either Mullin or the Hurleys, but there is a calmness and coolness about Mullin that I like.

Beast and MCN (on the other board) covered it well when it comes to Mullen, errrr, Mullin. Not to mention, I'd be all in for the potential staff he'd bring along. Give Mullin a decent tactician to aide him along, then I think we may be a good to go.

As, far as X's and O's.... It's important. But many times it's overrated, and generally folks on here (and, on most message boards) spout it off to make it seem they have an idea what they're talking about. There aren't many, masterful tactician's. There are far, more average X's and O's coaches, than they are good or masterful. Generally, it's all about the Jimmy's and the Joe's.

Does any of you watch UNC play? I watch 'em play often. Roy Williams is about as average as they can get when it comes to X's and O's. Yeah.... Let's go zone when Wisconsin is rallying and have all the momentum, and Kaminsky precisely knocks down a trey to tie the game. The rest of it is history. This is just one example.

You know what usually separate Roy Williams? He generally has a ton of 5-star and McDonald's AA's at his disposal, along with a competent PG, a couple of knockdown shooters, and an inside presence. To his credit, he brought in those players and had to coach 'em. But he's not what you would consider to be an X's and O's guy.

If you've noticed, when he has won championships, it's been with an extremely, experienced team that was loaded with kids who were rated #1 or #2 at their respective positions' when they came out of HS. Kids who were juniors and seniors.

A competent X's and O's will do. Not a poor one. But average-to-above average will do, as long as you have the Jimmy's and Joe's.

I know I've rambled a bit and gotten a bit off topic, but I'd rather have Mullin at this point, IF the staff being mentioned is the one he brings along with him.

**My opinion is subject to change, based on any, new info that pops up**
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With all due respect, I don't agree. there may be few tacticians, but the coaches still playing now in the elite 8 are all brilliant tacticians except for maybe Cal.

The idea that Roy Williams isn't a great X and O guy, but won when he had the top high school players is exactly the point. Recruiting the best players in the country has not been what St. John's has done since Mullin and Berry. And it's not likely to happen going forward, so we need a coaching staff who can develop 3 and 4 star players, teach the game and recruit the occasional 5 star player.
 
HEARD ON MICHAEL KAY SHOW THE NEXT COACH COULD BE RICK PITINO,PATRICK EWING.. I NEARLY VOMITED... RICKS TOO OLD AND TOO MUCH=$5 MIL....EWING WAS JOHN THOMPSON STOOGE ,HENCHMAN,PLAYED DIRTY... BUT THAT ASIDE, THIS GUY TOOK UNTIMED TESTS AT G-TOWN... HE CANT THINK ON HIS FEET..WOULDN'T TAKE MULLIN...HASN'T COACHED BEFORE....AND WHEN IT COMES TIME TO FIRE HIM,WHO WANTS TO GET RID OF THIS SCHOOL'S GREATEST PLAYER(?)...PREFER DANNY OVER BOBBY HURLEY...WHEN COACH K JOB OPENS UP,BOBBY WILL JUMP,AS WELL AS AMAKER,CAPEL,ETC... DANNY WONT MAKE LATERAL TRANSFER TO THE HALL WHERE HE HAD SOME PROBLEMS..
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Is there a reason you post in ALL CAPS? It is very difficult to read. And before you suggest I just skip your posts, I do. Not trying to be rude or confrontational but it is really difficult on the eyes, at least mine, and I was wondering if there is a reason for it.
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I believe it's because he's hard of hearing. :unsure:
 
If SJU didn't go into negotiations with Lavin knowing who would accept job offer if talks broke down with Lavin that may explain the 20 years of futility.
 
Actually, I'd prefer Mullin over the Hurleys at this juncture. I'm not sure about either Mullin or the Hurleys, but there is a calmness and coolness about Mullin that I like.

Beast and MCN (on the other board) covered it well when it comes to Mullen, errrr, Mullin. Not to mention, I'd be all in for the potential staff he'd bring along. Give Mullin a decent tactician to aide him along, then I think we may be a good to go.

As, far as X's and O's.... It's important. But many times it's overrated, and generally folks on here (and, on most message boards) spout it off to make it seem they have an idea what they're talking about. There aren't many, masterful tactician's. There are far, more average X's and O's coaches, than they are good or masterful. Generally, it's all about the Jimmy's and the Joe's.

Does any of you watch UNC play? I watch 'em play often. Roy Williams is about as average as they can get when it comes to X's and O's. Yeah.... Let's go zone when Wisconsin is rallying and have all the momentum, and Kaminsky precisely knocks down a trey to tie the game. The rest of it is history. This is just one example.

You know what usually separate Roy Williams? He generally has a ton of 5-star and McDonald's AA's at his disposal, along with a competent PG, a couple of knockdown shooters, and an inside presence. To his credit, he brought in those players and had to coach 'em. But he's not what you would consider to be an X's and O's guy.

If you've noticed, when he has won championships, it's been with an extremely, experienced team that was loaded with kids who were rated #1 or #2 at their respective positions' when they came out of HS. Kids who were juniors and seniors.

A competent X's and O's will do. Not a poor one. But average-to-above average will do, as long as you have the Jimmy's and Joe's.

I know I've rambled a bit and gotten a bit off topic, but I'd rather have Mullin at this point, IF the staff being mentioned is the one he brings along with him.

**My opinion is subject to change, based on any, new info that pops up**
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With all due respect, I don't agree. there may be few tacticians, but the coaches still playing now in the elite 8 are all brilliant tacticians except for maybe Cal.

The idea that Roy Williams isn't a great X and O guy, but won when he had the top high school players is exactly the point. Recruiting the best players in the country has not been what St. John's has done since Mullin and Berry. And it's not likely to happen going forward, so we need a coaching staff who can develop 3 and 4 star players, teach the game and recruit the occasional 5 star player.
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Agree with Dink that Williams is not a great tactician(have always felt that way), and agree with your recruiting philosophy. There's only a handful of teams who continuously restock their roster with 4 and 5 star talent. I think its unreasonable for us to expect our next coach to be able to do that, nor do I think its necessary in order for us to achieve sustained success. The programs run by Bo Ryan, Mark Few, etc are what we should model ourselves after IMO
 
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