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Hi all, Adam here. I haven't been active on redmen/red.fans since last season for a couple reasons. First, my wife gave birth to our daughter (first child) and I've been cutting back on some activities given how time consuming it's been. That said, we're both thrilled that she's here and healthy.

Second, I didn't care to make a NET thread this year because our pathetic OOC schedule and terrible advanced metrics weren't worth defending. We had a shot if we got off to a solid Big East start, but barring a massive turnaround we obviously won't be making the Tournament. I'm not aware of a team with a NET >100 in January who went on to get an at-large. Yes, it's still possible we will turn things around, but very unlikely.

I'm making this thread now because there's something new worth discussing. St. John's needs to quietly start the hiring process for their next coach. Reach out to Pitino immediately and go from there. He needs to be choice #1, St. John's can't overthink this.

Just in case Pitino isn't interested, then there are a few candidates that need to be evaluated right away as backup. Personally there isn't one I'm thrilled about, but certainly some who were more enticing than Mike Anderson was at the time.

Happy New Year all, looking forward to a new chapter in 2023.
 
Congrats Adam!

And yes we def have to be thinking about who could realistically be getting the job this offseason.

Pitino is the name that will obviously be floated around the most given his ties to the area and the recent results of that investigation. But knowing St. John’s I feel like it’s unlikely too.

Bet we take a shot on some young up and comer this time around
 
I have held off long enough, I nominate myself. Half my recruits would be under recruited NYC kids that will bite your nose off. Other half would be kids that can shoot threes. Storr and Jones would def stay since I like them, would do Clockwork Orange thing with Posh and tie him down and make him watch him shoot threes this year with Classical music playing into his ears until his eyes and ears bled.
If we lost I would throw back 5 or 6 cold ones before I met the press so interviews would be great. Might even drink during games so that full access thing would be entertaining as hell. Would also get Vitamin water guy back in fold and cheat like hell once a year to get top 10 kid.
How could this not work?
 
Larry Wright said:
I have held off long enough, I nominate myself. Half my recruits would be under recruited NYC kids that will bite your nose off. Other half would be kids that can shoot threes. Storr and Jones would def stay since I like them, would do Clockwork Orange thing with Posh and tie him down and make him watch him shoot threes this year with Classical music playing into his ears until his eyes and ears bled.
If we lost I would throw back 5 or 6 cold ones before I met the press so interviews would be great. Might even drink during games so that full access thing would be entertaining as hell. Would also get Vitamin water guy back in fold and cheat like hell once a year to get top 10 kid.
How could this not work?
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How will you handle this board when they want you fired after your first loss? :)
 
ctstorm said:
How will you handle this board when they want you fired after your first loss? :)
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I will still post too
Would schedule Duke, Kansas or Kentucky every year just to shut people up but then would play crappy teams other 10 games just like Mike so really wouldn’t hear anything until BE started
 
No more “maybe hires”.

Ever recent coaching hire in the Big East has been with someone who has achieved success at his prior school:
Xavier: Miller
Yukon: Hurley
Seton Hall: Holloway
Butler: Mata
Villanova: Neptune
Marquette: Smart

Please no more “maybe hires”with no D1 coaching experience (Roberts),

Please no more “maybe hies” with absolutely no coaching experience (Mullin)

Please no more “maybe hires” of media personalities (Lavin)

Please no more “maybe hires” of coaches recently fired for non performance (Anderson)

Please- Please- Please hire someone like Rick Pitino who has achieved a record of success.
 
Jack Williams said:
Congrats Adam!

And yes we def have to be thinking about who could realistically be getting the job this offseason.

Pitino is the name that will obviously be floated around the most given his ties to the area and the recent results of that investigation. But knowing St. John’s I feel like it’s unlikely too.

Bet we take a shot on some young up and comer this time around
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No Pitino, and we'll be doing this over over over over & over.

My heart can't take this crap, the last 3 coaches I had hope for, and how did they turn out?
Only Rick for me.
 
Originally I was iffy on Pitino due to the NCAA investigation and some of his immoral actions.

With the NCAA clearing him I now believe St. John's would be crazy not to hire him. No other potential candidate would be anywhere close to as qualified, and I'm confident that the big majority of Power programs would offer him if they needed to clean house and fill an opening. By March I'm pretty sure half a dozen or so Power programs will have interest, including some larger than us, which is why the school needs to work on this behind the scenes immediately.

Unfortunately I think a mid-season hire is out of the question, so the next best action would be to get in contact with him to gauge interest. Sadly I have little faith the school will actually do that, but fans need to start voting with their wallets to force them into it.

As others have said, now is not the time for a "maybe" hire. A cleared Pitino in the era of NIL is as sure a bet as you can make.
 
Pitino is the only coach who might be interested in the SJU job who could produce immediate improvement. All the other possibilities would require two to three years at least to turn this disaster around and most if not all would turn out to be failures.
The SJU is in dire straits and Father Shanley is its only hope.
 
What are Pitino's most probable options?

St. John's?
Georgetown?
Louisville? Would that even be an option?

Others big jobs where HC is on hot seat?
 
MainMan said:
The redmen.com algorithm says a staff of Paul Hewitt, Jim Baron, Pat Kennedy and Matt Doherty will right this ship.

Get it done Cragg!
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Baron would help cancel out all the egregious mistakes of the other three, but that would still only get us to 19-20 wins every year and we'd need another new coach anyway to take Jim's cleanup efforts to the actual level where fans start getting excited.
 
All I'm reading is the Rick Pitino magic pill theory. There are problems with this program that need to be addressed beyond the coach. If Pitino was given carte blanche to work with the big money boosters, then maybe he would turn things around. If not, then I'm not buying it that the sheer mention of his name will bring the recruits here that have avoided this program like the plague for the past 30 years. How is his relationship with Repole? Can I assume they know each other as both are horse owners? Let the 2 of them figure it out, and I would be more confident.
 
Pitino told me St. John's has always been his dream job and was disappointed when he didn't get a call after Frank Mulzoff was let go.

Way to go Kaiser!
 
RedStormNC said:
What are Pitino's most probable options?

St. John's?
Georgetown?
Louisville? Would that even be an option?

Others big jobs where HC is on hot seat?
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Louisville won’t get rid of Payne after one season. Georgia Tech is almost certain to open and NC State is a possibility. Not sure if either would be more preferable to Rick than SJU but who knows what the $ situation would be with those schools. Other than that I don’t see any ACC, BE, B10 or B12 jobs opening unless there’s an unexpected retirement or going to the NBA or something like that
 
all of this is too early speculation, have to see where the team ends up once season is over. Logically one can assume it won't look good.
 
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