Turning on my favorite Green Day song - "Wake Me Up When We Aren't Playing The Padres"
New York Mets 2025 Season
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guinness77
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Unbelievably predictable that Darvish, who’s been absolute crap, is shutting the Mets out.
All true. People see 3 for 1 and their heads fall off. I also remember quite a bit of shade thrown at all three of these suspects.
Butto got crushed in Milwaukee, Tidwell failed to fill the starter role in a couple of rough starts and Gilbert was labeled “4th OF’r” by several people. These were not my opinion but this was all talked about.
Now I am suppose to believe we gave up a major haul. C’mon which is it?
Trying not to get too high or low off of one game, but this is absolutely pathetic
Baez seems to be a legitimate lottery ticket type prospect who can bite you in the ass. But he's still just 20. Dohm was a 3rd round pick last year. Elissalt is a reliever.
Think its a great deal
Baez is the one that the folks in Amazin Avenue are worried about. He is young and toolsy. We will see how he develops.
We have lost some of the depth out of the minor systems, but we still have a lot left. Benge, Jett, Tong and McClean are the ones we need to pan out.
We have lost some of the depth out of the minor systems, but we still have a lot left. Benge, Jett, Tong and McClean are the ones we need to pan out.
Those padres losses were tough but the Phillies lost a series to the Chicago White Sox. So let’s just move on and win some games at Citi
We have a rough starch coming up. The only “bad” team we face in the next few weeks is Atlanta. The rest of the teams are .500 and above.
Bingo. The core of our system is still there. You have to give to get. This is exactly what you should use your system for. Trying to win a Championship again in our lifetime. We have one of the best bullpens in baseball. Yesterday we were borderline bad.
Word is we are still trying to add. Maybe Robert or Kwan are still on the table.
Coming from a position of weakness because I don’t much follow baseball outside of the Mets but it would seem to me they seriously upgraded the bullpen with veteran, proven arms.
But I don’t get Robert at all but just going on stats. He has steadily declined every year since 2021, has a horrible walk to strikeout ratio and blindly analyzing his stats it appears he is an occasional power hitter who goes up to the plate looking to do just that. I could certainly be wrong.
As for defense, I just don’t see how he would be a significant upgrade over Taylor who is an outstanding fielder with a strong arm.
Just my very uninformed two cents on both fronts; I will be the first to insist you need to see players over a period of time to have a valid opinion.
But I don’t get Robert at all but just going on stats. He has steadily declined every year since 2021, has a horrible walk to strikeout ratio and blindly analyzing his stats it appears he is an occasional power hitter who goes up to the plate looking to do just that. I could certainly be wrong.
As for defense, I just don’t see how he would be a significant upgrade over Taylor who is an outstanding fielder with a strong arm.
Just my very uninformed two cents on both fronts; I will be the first to insist you need to see players over a period of time to have a valid opinion.
Roger’s felt like a massive overpayment. The Giants won that trade. Both Butto and Tidwell could be better relievers than Rogers next year. I didn’t like Gilbert and Stearns clearly didn’t either, but he still had value to smaller market teams he didn’t have here. Gilbert is one of the luckiest guys in baseball today.
I liked the prospects better in the Hellsley deal, but I felt that was fair because they were so far away. Baez felt a little moderate to me…Dohm I liked the most.
Bullpen is a real strength now out of nowhere.
I liked the prospects better in the Hellsley deal, but I felt that was fair because they were so far away. Baez felt a little moderate to me…Dohm I liked the most.
Bullpen is a real strength now out of nowhere.
What?
Tidwell is struggling in his second year of AAA, at age 24, especially with walks and has steadily regressed as a prospect. Maybe he can be a reliever, but we don't really know that. He's also blocked in the major league rotation with other prospects like Scott, Sproat, Tong and McLean. Santucci is also more promising.
Butto is mediocre. If he had options, he may still be on the team. But we cannot trust him in a big moment, has regressed, and already has to be a one inning reliever. Maybe he can be a back end rotation guy, but maybe not and certainly not for our team. Gilbert has regressed significantly.
Rogers has been an extremely consistent, top shelf reliever for his whole career. Him not walking guys, he has walked less than 1 guy per 9 innings for last year and this year, is huge. I'd be amazed if either of them ever amount to him -- especially since Rogers doesn't rely on velocity.
I think this was a great trade for the Mets. We traded guys with very little upside.