New Players

Forecasting minor role for Sima is appropriate. As noted by many, big guys take time to develop. Secondly, I would only include him in any predictions when there is a signed LOI.
is there a question about his eligibility?

I will feel at ease when he signs. His HS worries me. Then again on eligibility issue, I tend to worry. :)
 
Forecasting minor role for Sima is appropriate. As noted by many, big guys take time to develop. Secondly, I would only include him in any predictions when there is a signed LOI.

is he out shopping himself?
 
He seems to be happy w SJU. A couple weeks ago he tweeted an international player, I think Mussini to come to SJU and make this an international team.
 
Not a lot of room for debate on this one

1. Johnson
3. Williams
6.. Mvouika
12. Sima

Johnson is big, he can shoot, he's the toughest guy on the roster, he can guard, and he is proven and experienced at a high level under a coach that stresses defense. People keep pointing to the 8.8 points he averaged two years ago, but he averaged 13 ppg through two exhibitions last year before being suspended, and he was expected to contribute at least that much through the season. I think hell give us 14-15 ppg and bring it on offense, defense, and on the glass.

I love the Williams addition. I have no idea about his defensive ability or his handle, but offensively he is fundamentally sound and can score any way imaginable. As a JUCO it might take him a year to get going fully, but I expect him to be solid from day one.

Mvouika has too many moving parts for my liking. Seems a little rushed. But, he has good looking release to his shot and above average handle from what I can see on him. No idea about his defense, but Missouri State is a very solid program from a very solid conference. He backs up two key positions and was raised as a PG...plus he can shoot the ball effectively and we need that. Impressive addition by the staff.

Sima has great potential. I'm not sure what we can expect out of a 6'11 freshman center. I hope posters are willing to give him some time to develop before writing his career's obituary. AA might have to start off as our backup center (and PF), but it's nice to have a kid that big and with that kind of promise waiting in the wings.

Ha ha, I'm not sure exhibition games are the best predictor of future performance. My recollection is that Obekpa averaged a triple double in exhibition games last year, but I'm not sure we should be expecting that from him night in and night out next year.
 
Zach Braziller ‏@NYPost_Brazille 16m16 minutes ago
College coach on St. John's six-man class raved about quality and depth. “They’re not taking any flyers on guys." What a change. #sjubb
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Except for Sima apparently.
 
Forecasting minor role for Sima is appropriate. As noted by many, big guys take time to develop. Secondly, I would only include him in any predictions when there is a signed LOI.
is there a question about his eligibility?

I will feel at ease when he signs. His HS worries me. Then again on eligibility issue, I tend to worry. :)

Paultz I am confident that in light of went on with the Sanchez, Thomas and ADR sagas, that both the staff and the compliance dept will be far more vigilant in evaluating kid's academic records. Having said that, there are always going to be risks and I'm fine the taking those risks provided there are fall back options
 
Interestingly every one of those guys was initially cleared by the NCAA. The whole system is difficult but you'd think the compliance department would start paying much closer attention to the schools marquee sport.
 
Interestingly every on e of those guys was initially cleared by the NCAA. The whole system is difficult but you'd think the compliance department would start paying much closer attention to the schools marquee sport.

do both the NCAA and the school have to clear a kid? Or once the NCAA clears him he's good to go?
 
Interestingly every one of those guys was initially cleared by the NCAA. The whole system is difficult but you'd think the compliance department would start paying much closer attention to the schools marquee sport.

I thought Sanchez was not initially cleared by the NCAA and SJU had to hire a lawyer to appeal? The ADR situation was shrouded in mystery from day one. Will be interesting to see if he ever plays.
 
http://nypost.com/2015/05/02/good-times-keep-rolling-for-chris-mullin-st-johns/

I am not taking a shot a Zach because I dislike him, but this line is absurd: "Next season’s roster now has depth, balance, versatility and size — qualities that were severely lacking last season."

Obviously, the depth and size issues are very true, but last year's roster was not imbalanced at all, and versatility was the hallmark of last years squad--actually of all of Lavin's squads. Dom Pointer was the most versatile player we've had since Ron Artest. Harrison could play the 1-3 effectively and shined at the four for periods. Greene played 1-3 as did Jordan. In terms of roster balance we were 4-2-2-2. It doesn't get too much more balanced than that. Right now we are 5-1-2-3.

I love the roster and what the staff has done, but there is no need to go back and take shots at Lavin. But if you are going to, at least choose something he did wrong.

That "slow plodding" San Diego State team turned out to be the most athletic team we faced all season by a wide margin.
 
http://nypost.com/2015/05/02/good-times-keep-rolling-for-chris-mullin-st-johns/

I am not taking a shot a Zach because I dislike him, but this line is absurd: "Next season’s roster now has depth, balance, versatility and size — qualities that were severely lacking last season."

Obviously, the depth and size issues are very true, but last year's roster was not imbalanced at all, and versatility was the hallmark of last years squad--actually of all of Lavin's squads. Dom Pointer was the most versatile player we've had since Ron Artest. Harrison could play the 1-3 effectively and shined at the four for periods. Greene played 1-3 as did Jordan. In terms of roster balance we were 4-2-2-2. It doesn't get too much more balanced than that. Right now we are 5-1-2-3.

I love the roster and what the staff has done, but there is no need to go back and take shots at Lavin. But if you are going to, at least choose something he did wrong.

That "slow plodding" San Diego State team turned out to be the most athletic team we faced all season by a wide margin.
May be time to move on re Zach Marillac. Clearly he has no respect for Lavin, but beating this to death has no upside. I differ & argue with him often, but am glad he covers SJU hoops. Btw, a several months back you noted his superiors at the Post were upset with his SJU bias. I chuckled, because he was promoted at that vey time. Writers certainly are not perfect & can be cutting at times. That said, to me the good outweighs the bad. Just my opinion.
 
http://nypost.com/2015/05/02/good-times-keep-rolling-for-chris-mullin-st-johns/

I am not taking a shot a Zach because I dislike him, but this line is absurd: "Next season’s roster now has depth, balance, versatility and size — qualities that were severely lacking last season."

Obviously, the depth and size issues are very true, but last year's roster was not imbalanced at all, and versatility was the hallmark of last years squad--actually of all of Lavin's squads. Dom Pointer was the most versatile player we've had since Ron Artest. Harrison could play the 1-3 effectively and shined at the four for periods. Greene played 1-3 as did Jordan. In terms of roster balance we were 4-2-2-2. It doesn't get too much more balanced than that. Right now we are 5-1-2-3.

I love the roster and what the staff has done, but there is no need to go back and take shots at Lavin. But if you are going to, at least choose something he did wrong.

That "slow plodding" San Diego State team turned out to be the most athletic team we faced all season by a wide margin.
May be time to move on re Zach Marillac. Clearly he has no respect for Lavin, but beating this to death has no upside. I differ & argue with him often, but am glad he covers SJU hoops. Btw, a several months back you noted his superiors at the Post were upset with his SJU bias. I chuckled, because he was promoted at that vey time. Writers certainly are not perfect & can be cutting at times. That said, to me the good outweighs the bad. Just my opinion.

You are right that it is time to move along, but it's easier said then done when he makes blatant mistakes and continues to trounce on a man that can't defend himself. This is an exciting time, yet every article and many of his tweets have to include some shot at Lavin. The info about the loss of respect is accurate and I can say more over PMs if you'd like.
 
http://nypost.com/2015/05/02/good-times-keep-rolling-for-chris-mullin-st-johns/

I am not taking a shot a Zach because I dislike him, but this line is absurd: "Next season’s roster now has depth, balance, versatility and size — qualities that were severely lacking last season."

Obviously, the depth and size issues are very true, but last year's roster was not imbalanced at all, and versatility was the hallmark of last years squad--actually of all of Lavin's squads. Dom Pointer was the most versatile player we've had since Ron Artest. Harrison could play the 1-3 effectively and shined at the four for periods. Greene played 1-3 as did Jordan. In terms of roster balance we were 4-2-2-2. It doesn't get too much more balanced than that. Right now we are 5-1-2-3.

I love the roster and what the staff has done, but there is no need to go back and take shots at Lavin. But if you are going to, at least choose something he did wrong.

That "slow plodding" San Diego State team turned out to be the most athletic team we faced all season by a wide margin.

When I was reading the article, I took balance to mean a mixture of upper and under classmen.
 
http://nypost.com/2015/05/02/good-times-keep-rolling-for-chris-mullin-st-johns/

I am not taking a shot a Zach because I dislike him, but this line is absurd: "Next season’s roster now has depth, balance, versatility and size — qualities that were severely lacking last season."

Obviously, the depth and size issues are very true, but last year's roster was not imbalanced at all, and versatility was the hallmark of last years squad--actually of all of Lavin's squads. Dom Pointer was the most versatile player we've had since Ron Artest. Harrison could play the 1-3 effectively and shined at the four for periods. Greene played 1-3 as did Jordan. In terms of roster balance we were 4-2-2-2. It doesn't get too much more balanced than that. Right now we are 5-1-2-3.

I love the roster and what the staff has done, but there is no need to go back and take shots at Lavin. But if you are going to, at least choose something he did wrong.

That "slow plodding" San Diego State team turned out to be the most athletic team we faced all season by a wide margin.
May be time to move on re Zach Marillac. Clearly he has no respect for Lavin, but beating this to death has no upside. I differ & argue with him often, but am glad he covers SJU hoops. Btw, a several months back you noted his superiors at the Post were upset with his SJU bias. I chuckled, because he was promoted at that vey time. Writers certainly are not perfect & can be cutting at times. That said, to me the good outweighs the bad. Just my opinion.

You are right that it is time to move along, but it's easier said then done when he makes blatant mistakes and continues to trounce on a man that can't defend himself. This is an exciting time, yet every article and many of his tweets have to include some shot at Lavin. The info about the loss of respect is accurate and I can say more over PMs if you'd like.
Why don't you just talk to him directly? I find him eminently available.
 
http://nypost.com/2015/05/02/good-times-keep-rolling-for-chris-mullin-st-johns/

I am not taking a shot a Zach because I dislike him, but this line is absurd: "Next season’s roster now has depth, balance, versatility and size — qualities that were severely lacking last season."

Obviously, the depth and size issues are very true, but last year's roster was not imbalanced at all, and versatility was the hallmark of last years squad--actually of all of Lavin's squads. Dom Pointer was the most versatile player we've had since Ron Artest. Harrison could play the 1-3 effectively and shined at the four for periods. Greene played 1-3 as did Jordan. In terms of roster balance we were 4-2-2-2. It doesn't get too much more balanced than that. Right now we are 5-1-2-3.

I love the roster and what the staff has done, but there is no need to go back and take shots at Lavin. But if you are going to, at least choose something he did wrong.

That "slow plodding" San Diego State team turned out to be the most athletic team we faced all season by a wide margin.

When I was reading the article, I took balance to mean a mixture of upper and under classmen.

Roster balance is really not susceptible to more than one interpretation. It is even distribution of scholarships among the four classes. Last year we were 4-2-2-2. That is pretty damn balanced. The reason it seemed imbalanced to some is because they incorrectly assumed Obekpa and Jordan were goners. So in their minds it was 6-1-1-2 . I love what the staff is doing, but we are more imbalanced in the short term (5-1-2-3) than we ever were under Lavin. If things work out the way most of us would like (Lovett/Mussini and Larrier) it will be 5-1-2-5. I'd take that in a heartbeat.

I'll heed Pault's advice and try to back off of Zach, and perhaps even contact him directly to ask him to end the Lavin slights. No need to create negativity during a very good time for St. John's basketball.
 
http://nypost.com/2015/05/02/good-times-keep-rolling-for-chris-mullin-st-johns/

I am not taking a shot a Zach because I dislike him, but this line is absurd: "Next season’s roster now has depth, balance, versatility and size — qualities that were severely lacking last season."

Obviously, the depth and size issues are very true, but last year's roster was not imbalanced at all, and versatility was the hallmark of last years squad--actually of all of Lavin's squads. Dom Pointer was the most versatile player we've had since Ron Artest. Harrison could play the 1-3 effectively and shined at the four for periods. Greene played 1-3 as did Jordan. In terms of roster balance we were 4-2-2-2. It doesn't get too much more balanced than that. Right now we are 5-1-2-3.

I love the roster and what the staff has done, but there is no need to go back and take shots at Lavin. But if you are going to, at least choose something he did wrong.

That "slow plodding" San Diego State team turned out to be the most athletic team we faced all season by a wide margin.

When I was reading the article, I took balance to mean a mixture of upper and under classmen.

Roster balance is really not susceptible to more than one interpretation. It is even distribution of scholarships among the four classes. Last year we were 4-2-2-2. That is pretty damn balanced. The reason it seemed imbalanced to some is because they incorrectly assumed Obekpa and Jordan were goners. So in their minds it was 6-1-1-2 . I love what the staff is doing, but we are more imbalanced in the short term (5-1-2-3) than we ever were under Lavin. If things work out the way most of us would like (Lovett/Mussini and Larrier) it will be 5-1-2-5. I'd take that in a heartbeat.

I'll heed Pault's advice and try to back off of Zach, and perhaps even contact him directly to ask him to end the Lavin slights. No need to create negativity during a very good time for St. John's basketball.

We're on the same page with the meaning of roster balance. I misinterpreted your post.
 
Dom Pointer was the most versatile player we've had since Ron Artest..

In the nice work if you can get it category I like how you spent the entire off season last year killing Dom Pointer as the worst scholarship player in SJU history and now in this off season you get to kill Braziller for not recognizing the greatness that was Dom Pointer.
 
Dom Pointer was the most versatile player we've had since Ron Artest..

In the nice work if you can get it category I like how you spent the entire off season last year killing Dom Pointer as the worst scholarship player in SJU history and now in this off season you get to kill Braziller for not recognizing the greatness that was Dom Pointer.

Yes, I killed Dom for his junior year in which he stood flat-footed on the perimeter 90% of the time on offense. I pleaded for him to be used properly. I've explained that then (when anger subsided) and this past season. Was it over the top? What Marillac post isn't?

Dom aside, versatility was what Lavin built his teams around. Moe could play 2-5, Garret 2-4, Sanchez played every position on the court offensively. Sampson played 2-5. The obvious knock on Lavin is that he let his guys be too versatile--to the point that there are no defined roles or order. It worked for guys like Brownlee but not for guys like Sanchez.
Looking forward to less versatility and more defined roles under Mullin.
 
On the topic of new players, I want to be excited but I still have a couple of concerns:
1- I don't see a true PG on the team yet. Some see Rysheed at the point but he will need to score and I just don't want him there while trying to be the scorer. I know we are still looking but I think this is a bigger problem than most acknowledge. I know we are said to be interested in Lovett but people here who know better than I seem to think eligibility is a huge issue. Doesn't sound like he would be an immediate answer.
2- It is interesting (at least to me) that whenever people talk about what they look for from the new guys the offensive stats are mentioned. I guess its hard to predict or measure but I wonder how good we could be on defense.

I will keep the faith in this staff. However, I think we need to be realistic.
 
On the topic of new players, I want to be excited but I still have a couple of concerns:
1- I don't see a true PG on the team yet. Some see Rysheed at the point but he will need to score and I just don't want him there while trying to be the scorer. I know we are still looking but I think this is a bigger problem than most acknowledge. I know we are said to be interested in Lovett but people here who know better than I seem to think eligibility is a huge issue. Doesn't sound like he would be an immediate answer.
2- It is interesting (at least to me) that whenever people talk about what they look for from the new guys the offensive stats are mentioned. I guess its hard to predict or measure but I wonder how good we could be on defense.

I will keep the faith in this staff. However, I think we need to be realistic.

Great points. For #1, I'd feel much better if we had a pure point like Malik Boothe backing Jordan up. He was a whipping boy, but played an unheralded role in the 2011 run filling in for Hardy, controlling the tempo, and playing nasty defense. Of course, I'd rather have Lovett or Mussini.

For #2, defense will be the key this year. We return two of our best three defenders in Jordan and Obekpa. Balamou was probably fourth. Durand Johnson, coming from Pitt, must be solid himself. Malik will need some work, and his lack of strength could be a problem. I have no idea what to expect from Williams outside of the occasional block. I suspect he'll be solid in the low block based on the little I've seen. Amar will still likely be a below average in this category even with some improvement. Defense is much harder to evaluate than offense.
 
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