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In his latest bracket (February 5th but before the Marquette win) Lunardi had us as one of the last 4 in and one of only 3 BE teams to make it.
I will consider anything less than 10-8 in BE a disappointment whether we sneak into NCAA tourney or not. I don't see more than 4 BE teams getting in this year, but I may be proven wrong.
I will consider anything less than 10-8 in BE a disappointment whether we sneak into NCAA tourney or not. I don't see more than 4 BE teams getting in this year, but I may be proven wrong.
Got to play them 1-at-a-time, but I think it's important to realize it's not just making the Dance that's vital, but making it with the best conference record possible to get a decent seed and a good shot for our first win in the NCAA Tournament since 2000.
Just making the tournament and losing in the first round will not attract ANY top 2019 recruit.
Play them 1-at-a-time, yeah--but aim higher.
Just making the tournament and losing in the first round will not attract ANY top 2019 recruit.
Play them 1-at-a-time, yeah--but aim higher.
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Bowling Green
8-1 Mid American conference
16-6 overall!
First place in their league!!
Ahead of Buffalo!!!
8-1 Mid American conference
16-6 overall!
First place in their league!!
Ahead of Buffalo!!!
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[quote="Chicago Days" post=321041]Got to play them 1-at-a-time, but I think it's important to realize it's not just making the Dance that's vital, but making it with the best conference record possible to get a decent seed and a good shot for our first win in the NCAA Tournament since 2000.
Just making the tournament and losing in the first round will not attract ANY top 2019 recruit.
Play them 1-at-a-time, yeah--but aim higher.[/quote]
Yep of course. Estimating how many wins are needed to Dance is more of a "magic number" thing rather than a goal. We should be able to make it comfortably.
Just making the tournament and losing in the first round will not attract ANY top 2019 recruit.
Play them 1-at-a-time, yeah--but aim higher.[/quote]
Yep of course. Estimating how many wins are needed to Dance is more of a "magic number" thing rather than a goal. We should be able to make it comfortably.
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Guess no one on this board watches Loud Mouths on SNY otherwise this board would have been apoplectic. Yesterday following our huge win over Marq both hosts said we will not make the NCAA T citing our inconsistency, schedule and the fact we play in a weak conference. I'm sure those guys don't follow it that closely and are probably unaware of any of the metrics that those that follow it more closely are aware of. I myself am not on board with 8-10 and a first round exit in the BET being enough to get us in depending of course on what everyone else does.
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[quote="NCJohnnie" post=321039]In his latest bracket (February 5th but before the Marquette win) Lunardi had us as one of the last 4 in and one of only 3 BE teams to make it.
I will consider anything less than 10-8 in BE a disappointment whether we sneak into NCAA tourney or not. I don't see more than 4 BE teams getting in this year, but I may be proven wrong.[/quote]
I agree NC Johnnie. I actually think with the two sweeps of Creighton and Marquette we should now go 11-7 in conference. If this is truly an NCAA Tournament team that can possibly win a game in the tournament, then we should be able to go 4-1 at home and 2-1 on the road against Xavier, Providence and DePaul. We owe DePaul and Xavier is not that good this year. This remaining schedule should very favorable to us if we are truly the team we think we can be. Just my humble opinion.
I will consider anything less than 10-8 in BE a disappointment whether we sneak into NCAA tourney or not. I don't see more than 4 BE teams getting in this year, but I may be proven wrong.[/quote]
I agree NC Johnnie. I actually think with the two sweeps of Creighton and Marquette we should now go 11-7 in conference. If this is truly an NCAA Tournament team that can possibly win a game in the tournament, then we should be able to go 4-1 at home and 2-1 on the road against Xavier, Providence and DePaul. We owe DePaul and Xavier is not that good this year. This remaining schedule should very favorable to us if we are truly the team we think we can be. Just my humble opinion.
[quote="Adam" post=321043][quote="Chicago Days" post=321041]Got to play them 1-at-a-time, but I think it's important to realize it's not just making the Dance that's vital, but making it with the best conference record possible to get a decent seed and a good shot for our first win in the NCAA Tournament since 2000.
Just making the tournament and losing in the first round will not attract ANY top 2019 recruit.
Play them 1-at-a-time, yeah--but aim higher.[/quote]
Yep of course. Estimating how many wins are needed to Dance is more of a "magic number" thing rather than a goal. We should be able to make it comfortably.[/quote]
Agree Adam and thanks again for your hard work on all these numbers, man!
Yeah, I think a ‘default’ number would be 5-3 in our next 8 games and 1 win in the BET, for a 23-9 record on Selection Sunday.
Me, being greedy, I’m hoping for a bit more: 6-2, and 2 in the BET, or 25-8 on that very big day for St. John’s hoops!
Just making the tournament and losing in the first round will not attract ANY top 2019 recruit.
Play them 1-at-a-time, yeah--but aim higher.[/quote]
Yep of course. Estimating how many wins are needed to Dance is more of a "magic number" thing rather than a goal. We should be able to make it comfortably.[/quote]
Agree Adam and thanks again for your hard work on all these numbers, man!
Yeah, I think a ‘default’ number would be 5-3 in our next 8 games and 1 win in the BET, for a 23-9 record on Selection Sunday.
Me, being greedy, I’m hoping for a bit more: 6-2, and 2 in the BET, or 25-8 on that very big day for St. John’s hoops!
Disastrous night for Pac 12 at large hopes.
NET rankings given:
61 Arizona St loses at home to 230 Wash St 91-70.
64 Arizona loses at home to 26 Washington 67-60.
72 Oregon St loses at home to 122 Stanford 83-60.
The Arizona loss is not a bad one, but removes their best chance for a significant resume building win. The other losses are awful.
NET rankings given:
61 Arizona St loses at home to 230 Wash St 91-70.
64 Arizona loses at home to 26 Washington 67-60.
72 Oregon St loses at home to 122 Stanford 83-60.
The Arizona loss is not a bad one, but removes their best chance for a significant resume building win. The other losses are awful.
[quote="weathermannyc" post=321062]Disastrous night for Pac 12 at large hopes.
NET rankings given:
61 Arizona St loses at home to 230 Wash St 91-70.
64 Arizona loses at home to 26 Washington 67-60.
72 Oregon St loses at home to 122 Stanford 83-60.
The Arizona loss is not a bad one, but removes their best chance for a significant resume building win. The other losses are awful.[/quote]
Thats why the win at Barclays against Cal was so important. Nobody will remember how poorly we played if we take care of our business. That would have been a bad loss.
NET rankings given:
61 Arizona St loses at home to 230 Wash St 91-70.
64 Arizona loses at home to 26 Washington 67-60.
72 Oregon St loses at home to 122 Stanford 83-60.
The Arizona loss is not a bad one, but removes their best chance for a significant resume building win. The other losses are awful.[/quote]
Thats why the win at Barclays against Cal was so important. Nobody will remember how poorly we played if we take care of our business. That would have been a bad loss.
MarkRedman
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One of the hosts on SiriusXM said that the Pac 12 will get 1 NCAA bid - U Dub
JohnnyFever
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[quote="bamafan" post=321054]Guess no one on this board watches Loud Mouths on SNY otherwise this board would have been apoplectic. Yesterday following our huge win over Marq both hosts said we will not make the NCAA T citing our inconsistency, schedule and the fact we play in a weak conference. I'm sure those guys don't follow it that closely and are probably unaware of any of the metrics that those that follow it more closely are aware of. I myself am not on board with 8-10 and a first round exit in the BET being enough to get us in depending of course on what everyone else does.[/quote]
I used to...I think they may have had the show after some Mets games. That being said, isn't Chris Carlin one of the guys? He's usually pretty knowledgeable so surprising if he went along with that. There's still a chance we don't make the tourney if we are under .500 in conference play, but being that Lunardi had us in before the #10 Marq. win away that makes them look pretty dumb. Don't relish too much in the Marquette win though...great as it was it got us back on track. Now we need to win the winnable games at home...or the overwhelming majority.
I used to...I think they may have had the show after some Mets games. That being said, isn't Chris Carlin one of the guys? He's usually pretty knowledgeable so surprising if he went along with that. There's still a chance we don't make the tourney if we are under .500 in conference play, but being that Lunardi had us in before the #10 Marq. win away that makes them look pretty dumb. Don't relish too much in the Marquette win though...great as it was it got us back on track. Now we need to win the winnable games at home...or the overwhelming majority.
Anthony Mattia
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I realize our conference record is what it is, but, we just went to Creighton, to Duke and to Marquette and won 2 of 3, and in my opinion the important 2 (conference games). Now, we all know we got robbed of a W at Seton Hall. With that win we would have been 6 and 4, and if ponds played we would have beaten Depaul and been 7 and 3. As I said in the first sentence, our record is what it is, but this team is good, and we are going to be playing the weaker conference teams in the upcoming days and could see us going 6 and 2 or even 7 and 1. That gets us hot and the right time and sends us to a better seed in the BE tournament and the NCAA
[quote="Mike Zaun" post=321066][quote="bamafan" post=321054]Guess no one on this board watches Loud Mouths on SNY otherwise this board would have been apoplectic. Yesterday following our huge win over Marq both hosts said we will not make the NCAA T citing our inconsistency, schedule and the fact we play in a weak conference. I'm sure those guys don't follow it that closely and are probably unaware of any of the metrics that those that follow it more closely are aware of. I myself am not on board with 8-10 and a first round exit in the BET being enough to get us in depending of course on what everyone else does.[/quote]
I used to...I think they may have had the show after some Mets games. That being said, isn't Chris Carlin one of the guys? He's usually pretty knowledgeable so surprising if he went along with that. There's still a chance we don't make the tourney if we are under .500 in conference play, but being that Lunardi had us in before the #10 Marq. win away that makes them look pretty dumb. Don't relish too much in the Marquette win though...great as it was it got us back on track. Now we need to win the winnable games at home...or the overwhelming majority.[/quote]
These guys have no credibility due to the fact that the Bracket matrix has us in on 104 out of 105 brackets. This isn't a fan group or what we hope for. These are tracked and verified bracket predictions..You want to say, we need to not stumble to get in. Fair. You want to say we need to be .500 in conference to get in. Fair. You can even say that you don't project that we will do enough to get in. But, to say we are not in is not paying attention to what is going on.
I used to...I think they may have had the show after some Mets games. That being said, isn't Chris Carlin one of the guys? He's usually pretty knowledgeable so surprising if he went along with that. There's still a chance we don't make the tourney if we are under .500 in conference play, but being that Lunardi had us in before the #10 Marq. win away that makes them look pretty dumb. Don't relish too much in the Marquette win though...great as it was it got us back on track. Now we need to win the winnable games at home...or the overwhelming majority.[/quote]
These guys have no credibility due to the fact that the Bracket matrix has us in on 104 out of 105 brackets. This isn't a fan group or what we hope for. These are tracked and verified bracket predictions..You want to say, we need to not stumble to get in. Fair. You want to say we need to be .500 in conference to get in. Fair. You can even say that you don't project that we will do enough to get in. But, to say we are not in is not paying attention to what is going on.
Coming into season;
One hoped to do well in out of conference schedule - Done
On thin team be fortunate in injury department - To date not bad compared to many other programs
Finish in brutally competitive BE in top three or four, with some wins over Nova and Marquette, pre season favorites - on our way and on latter have chance to win 3/4
Play well and increase attendence & turn heads in media and in recruiting - Some work to be done on latter, but solid
Get to BE finals, “dance” & win a game or 2 - Good prospects if we seize opportunity, play consistently & avoid injuries
Let’s beat Friars, defend home court for remaining games, including Nova at packed MSG & grab 10 or 11 wins and get a decent seed in NCAA T - Attainable imo.
One hoped to do well in out of conference schedule - Done
On thin team be fortunate in injury department - To date not bad compared to many other programs
Finish in brutally competitive BE in top three or four, with some wins over Nova and Marquette, pre season favorites - on our way and on latter have chance to win 3/4
Play well and increase attendence & turn heads in media and in recruiting - Some work to be done on latter, but solid
Get to BE finals, “dance” & win a game or 2 - Good prospects if we seize opportunity, play consistently & avoid injuries
Let’s beat Friars, defend home court for remaining games, including Nova at packed MSG & grab 10 or 11 wins and get a decent seed in NCAA T - Attainable imo.
[quote="weathermannyc" post=321082][quote="Mike Zaun" post=321066][quote="bamafan" post=321054]Guess no one on this board watches Loud Mouths on SNY otherwise this board would have been apoplectic. Yesterday following our huge win over Marq both hosts said we will not make the NCAA T citing our inconsistency, schedule and the fact we play in a weak conference. I'm sure those guys don't follow it that closely and are probably unaware of any of the metrics that those that follow it more closely are aware of. I myself am not on board with 8-10 and a first round exit in the BET being enough to get us in depending of course on what everyone else does.[/quote]
I used to...I think they may have had the show after some Mets games. That being said, isn't Chris Carlin one of the guys? He's usually pretty knowledgeable so surprising if he went along with that. There's still a chance we don't make the tourney if we are under .500 in conference play, but being that Lunardi had us in before the #10 Marq. win away that makes them look pretty dumb. Don't relish too much in the Marquette win though...great as it was it got us back on track. Now we need to win the winnable games at home...or the overwhelming majority.[/quote]
These guys have no credibility due to the fact that the Bracket matrix has us in on 104 out of 105 brackets. This isn't a fan group or what we hope for. These are tracked and verified bracket predictions..You want to say, we need to not stumble to get in. Fair. You want to say we need to be .500 in conference to get in. Fair. You can even say that you don't project that we will do enough to get in. But, to say we are not in is not paying attention to what is going on.[/quote]
I had to laugh when I saw the SNY show Loudmouths in this thread. I did in fact watch the show and thought about posting about their SJU discussion "Boom or Bust" and the chances of getting into the Tournament. I thought better of it because I know they know NOTHING about College Basketball. The two hosts were Jon Hein and Dan Graca. Now let me say I enjoy the show as it reminds me of two guys sitting at a bar bs-ing about sports. Of course, it usually reminds you that the guy you are talking to has had one too many and he still thinks Syracuse and Yukon are still in the Big East.
In short they basically dismissed SJU because of our weak schedule and weak non-conference wins. Some fair points. However, they dismissed our chances to make the Tournament as basically hype. Made me wonder that when you hold the microscope to other teams like who exactly would get in? Keep in mind (like everyone) SJU still has it all in front of them and need to win a good number of the games remaining.
They also were adamant that the BE is not the BIG EAST and may only get "a couple" of teams in. This might be true but again I would ask who exactly is getting in if that is the case? Both Graca and Hein are cursory college sports guys (they admit it) and I would note Graca is a Rutgers grad and Hein is a Michigan guy. So, I really took what they said with a grain of salt.
Finally, someone mentioned Carlin (another Rutgers shill) and he is no longer on SNY at all as he is a WFAN host. A terrible show on midday. Just my opinion.
I used to...I think they may have had the show after some Mets games. That being said, isn't Chris Carlin one of the guys? He's usually pretty knowledgeable so surprising if he went along with that. There's still a chance we don't make the tourney if we are under .500 in conference play, but being that Lunardi had us in before the #10 Marq. win away that makes them look pretty dumb. Don't relish too much in the Marquette win though...great as it was it got us back on track. Now we need to win the winnable games at home...or the overwhelming majority.[/quote]
These guys have no credibility due to the fact that the Bracket matrix has us in on 104 out of 105 brackets. This isn't a fan group or what we hope for. These are tracked and verified bracket predictions..You want to say, we need to not stumble to get in. Fair. You want to say we need to be .500 in conference to get in. Fair. You can even say that you don't project that we will do enough to get in. But, to say we are not in is not paying attention to what is going on.[/quote]
I had to laugh when I saw the SNY show Loudmouths in this thread. I did in fact watch the show and thought about posting about their SJU discussion "Boom or Bust" and the chances of getting into the Tournament. I thought better of it because I know they know NOTHING about College Basketball. The two hosts were Jon Hein and Dan Graca. Now let me say I enjoy the show as it reminds me of two guys sitting at a bar bs-ing about sports. Of course, it usually reminds you that the guy you are talking to has had one too many and he still thinks Syracuse and Yukon are still in the Big East.
In short they basically dismissed SJU because of our weak schedule and weak non-conference wins. Some fair points. However, they dismissed our chances to make the Tournament as basically hype. Made me wonder that when you hold the microscope to other teams like who exactly would get in? Keep in mind (like everyone) SJU still has it all in front of them and need to win a good number of the games remaining.
They also were adamant that the BE is not the BIG EAST and may only get "a couple" of teams in. This might be true but again I would ask who exactly is getting in if that is the case? Both Graca and Hein are cursory college sports guys (they admit it) and I would note Graca is a Rutgers grad and Hein is a Michigan guy. So, I really took what they said with a grain of salt.
Finally, someone mentioned Carlin (another Rutgers shill) and he is no longer on SNY at all as he is a WFAN host. A terrible show on midday. Just my opinion.
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