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NCAA Tournament seeding
- Thread starter gman
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I’m all one thing at a time. Nothing against the NCAA tournament - but I have been to plenty (although not a FF) and the excitement and atmosphere that will be at MSG in a few weeks blows away NCAA regionals and first round.
If SJU wins this Big East tournament the word unforgettable experience will apply.
If SJU wins this Big East tournament the word unforgettable experience will apply.
If we win a very close game it could be tomorrow but that hurts our NET. There should be a difference in Quad 1 victories.
This inspired me to look at that top 16 list the committee gave, lets see how things have gone in the weeks following:
16. St. John's: 4-0 (Wins - vs Creighton, @DePaul, vs UConn, @Butler)
15. Kansas: 2-2 (Wins - vs OKST, @Colorado/ Losses - @Utah, @BYU)
14. Michigan: 2-1 (Wins - @Ohio St, @Nebraska/ Loss - vs Mich St)
13. Texas Tech: 2-2 (Wins - @OKST, vs West Virginia/ Losses - @TCU, vs Houston)
12. Arizona: 2-2 (Wins - @Baylor, vs Utah/Losses - vs Houston, vs BYU)
11. Wisconsin: 3-1 (Wins - @Purdue, vs Illinois, vs Washington/ Loss - vs Oregon)
10. Kentucky: 2-2 (Wins - vs Vanderbilt, @Oklahoma / Losses - @Texas, @Bama)
9. Iowa State: 2-2 (Wins - vs Cincy, vs Colorado/ Losses - @Houston, @OKST)
8. Houston: 4-0 (Wins - @Arizona, @Arizona St, vs Iowa St, @Texas Tech)
7. Purdue: 0-3 (Losses - vs Wisconsin, @Mich St, @Indiana)
6. Texas A&M: 1-3 (Win - vs Arkansas/ Losses @Miss St, vs Tenn, vs Vandy)
Don't see us catching the top 5, nor Houston who were #8.
Also have to note Michigan State has almost certainly jumped into this group after not being a part of it originally. They have gone 4-0 since with three top 25 wins.
With all that said, there is a clear path to a 3 seed for us IMO. I think winning the final two regular season games, and at least making it to the BET semifinal and I'd be confident we have it. Remember, the BET games are now neutral site games for us, not home games.
^ great breakdown.
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/ -- right now, the average seed based on only 3/26 brackets is 3.27 (thank you chatGPT for the quick math). That seems relatively correct to me. I think the MARQ game solidifies us there.
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/ -- right now, the average seed based on only 3/26 brackets is 3.27 (thank you chatGPT for the quick math). That seems relatively correct to me. I think the MARQ game solidifies us there.
do they come out with a new list soon? like football..
Rutgers is winning @ Michigan right now! 65-54 early second half. Come on Scarlet Knights!
Buzzer beating 3 by St. John’s killer Namari Burnett wins it for Meechegan
The wild card is Alabama. Very tough schedule, and if they make an early exit in their conference tournament and we win out, we will be a 2.
We are not passing Alabama under any circumstances they have 10 Quad 1 wins.
Jack, thanks so much for putting this together. I agree the top six will be Auburn, Duke, Houston, Alabama, Tennessee and Florida. The committee can easily justify that they have stronger resumes than we do and I think they stand above the rest of the field.
So that leaves two spots -
The top team from the Big 10 or Big 18 has a strong chance for one of those. Michigan State has Wisconsin at home this weekend. The winner of that game will have the inside track. There is still a chance it could also be Michigan but I don't think so.
If we win out I believe we deserve and should get the final 2. The perceived second team in the Big 12(Texas Tech, Arizona, Iowa State) seem to be our strongest competition, although you can't rule out the second Big Ten team or unforunately another SEC team(Texas A&M and Kentucky. If we win out and dont get a 2, there is a strong argument that it is committee bias.
This is where I need help. How do they determine which 3 seeds play which 2 seeds. If were ranked 9th or 10th does this mean we would avoid the top six in the Elite Eight or is it more complicated than that. If it's based on seeding I dont see much of a difference between the last two 2 seeds and the first two 3 seeds. If that's not how it works than we want a 2 seed.
If we lose a game including the BET I still think we have a shot a good shot at a 3 seed. If we lose 2 we should hopefully keep our 4 seed unless the second loss is in the BET quarterfinals in which case we possibly could drop to a 5.
Still two weeks of basketball to be played before Selection Sunday. All we can do is enjoy the last two weeks and the NCAA tournament and hope we accomplish what we have all been dreaming of the last 40 years, a National Championship!
The best 3 seed would play the worst 2 seed if it came to that. I believe that’s how they seed.
Thanks. That would make sense.
That's how they try to do it, but sometimes, it's not possible logistically, for whatever reason.
The only hard and fast rule is that the top 2 seed (#5 overall) can not be in the same region as the overall #1.
that draw has Final4 written all over it
I appreciate your analysis. My travel schedule is a much bigger concern at the moment