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[quote="Chicago Days" post=278471]Anybody but Duke for sure. But this scafenfreude gig is getting awfully old.[/quote]

The schadenfreude never gets old with Duke, Syracuse, UCONN, Louisville etc. If we ever become a top 10 program I would take great pleasure when they lose or get caught by the FBI.
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=278471]Anybody but Duke for sure. But this scafenfreude gig is getting awfully old.[/quote]
CD, I typically don't dance on the graves of losing teams I root against; in fact, I usually feel bad for kids who played their hearts out but come out on the short end. But I can never forget how, just a few short years ago, Coach K danced on what he perceived to be the grave of the Big East, and how he arrogantly gloated over Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt & ND quitting the Big East for the ACC, boasting how it unequivocally re-established the ACC as the premier basketball conference in the country and implying that the BE would be crushed and reduced to a mid-major as a result. Also, while I do feel for most kids on losing teams who've left it all on the court (I take no joy in seeing them break down in tears and try to console their teammates), I make an exception for Grayson Allen, who's not just a dirty player but a sneaky dirty player to boot. Sorry, it may not be classy but that's how I feel.
 
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[quote="MJDinkins" post=278388][quote="Class of 72" post=278361][quote="Logen" post=278348][quote="Class of 72" post=278342][quote="NCJohnnie" post=278341]Maybe Commissioner Val can figure out a way to trade DePaul and Mitch Richmond for Loyola?[/quote]

DePaul should figure out how to hire the Loyola coach. Mitch Richmond should just stay in California.[/quote]

Just waiting for someone to go there. Fact is if you were a DePaul fan and they hired Moser before this year you would have been off the charts negative. Before the current 32-5 this year he had been a head coach for 13 years with 6 winning seasons, 3 in his last 10. Never finished higher than 5th in any year in 3 different conferences. Best record before this year was 24-13 which included winning the post season CBI tournament. Lifetime record of 194-206, 140-172 in his last ten. This is his 7th year at Loyola where he was 89-105 until this year with two winning seasons out of his first six. So you see you would have long spent the last few years demanding he be fired or sarcastically mocking him. Like it or not, it is hard, it takes time, it takes loyalty and conviction. And by the way, two of his very key players, Townes and Custer, are transfers.[/quote]

Ironically, you are the same basketball analytical genius that completely discounts Steve Lavin's overall record at just two fckg schools!
NINE post season appearances in ELEVEN years.
FIVE Sweet 16's.
You're the same guy that knocked him for ruining the St. John's season by getting cancer and ridiculed him for taking time off in the middle of the season to mourn his dad in California.:whistle:
You're a real humanitarian!
While you were busy knocking Porter Moser going back to the year gimel, you could have just focused on his past 4 years where he had winning records 3 out of the past four. While you were at it, you could have pointed out that this year he and his small team have played inspired basketball with a roster that not only includes 2 transfers but 8 freshmen and sophomores. Question to you: how many players left Coach Moser these past two years. How many left Chris Mullin?
Let's stop knocking coaches that have had success in winning basketball while making excuses for our 3 years of losing more than winning. I don't expect Mullin to get to the Final Four next year even if he had 5 five star players but I expect him to recruit better players than Poser can at Loyola-Chicago and win at least 20 games next year,[/quote]

Hypocrisy.... Squashed.[/quote]

As usual you are full of sh*t. You never heard me discount Lavin’s record, not once, never, ever. I knocked Lavin repeatedly and over and over for not working, If I find out for sure that is Mullin’s MO I will go after him with the same zeal. And I never, NEVER said a word against Lavin while he was recovering from cancer and if that is why he quit working he should not have come back so shove your bs where the sun don’t shine you lying sack of sh*t. You want to come at me for what I post, no problem, but you are a make it up phoney from the word go. And don’t come back here taking one of my old posts out of context, you loser.
 
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Newman was supposed to be a one and done with a lot of pressure going to the school his father went to and played for. Left after one year not for the pros but transferred to KU. Sat out a year, started slowly but has really come on strong.

Glad Duke is going home.
 
[quote="Logen" post=278479][quote="MJDinkins" post=278388][quote="Class of 72" post=278361][quote="Logen" post=278348][quote="Class of 72" post=278342][quote="NCJohnnie" post=278341]Maybe Commissioner Val can figure out a way to trade DePaul and Mitch Richmond for Loyola?[/quote]

DePaul should figure out how to hire the Loyola coach. Mitch Richmond should just stay in California.[/quote]

Just waiting for someone to go there. Fact is if you were a DePaul fan and they hired Moser before this year you would have been off the charts negative. Before the current 32-5 this year he had been a head coach for 13 years with 6 winning seasons, 3 in his last 10. Never finished higher than 5th in any year in 3 different conferences. Best record before this year was 24-13 which included winning the post season CBI tournament. Lifetime record of 194-206, 140-172 in his last ten. This is his 7th year at Loyola where he was 89-105 until this year with two winning seasons out of his first six. So you see you would have long spent the last few years demanding he be fired or sarcastically mocking him. Like it or not, it is hard, it takes time, it takes loyalty and conviction. And by the way, two of his very key players, Townes and Custer, are transfers.[/quote]

Ironically, you are the same basketball analytical genius that completely discounts Steve Lavin's overall record at just two fckg schools!
NINE post season appearances in ELEVEN years.
FIVE Sweet 16's.
You're the same guy that knocked him for ruining the St. John's season by getting cancer and ridiculed him for taking time off in the middle of the season to mourn his dad in California.:whistle:
You're a real humanitarian!
While you were busy knocking Porter Moser going back to the year gimel, you could have just focused on his past 4 years where he had winning records 3 out of the past four. While you were at it, you could have pointed out that this year he and his small team have played inspired basketball with a roster that not only includes 2 transfers but 8 freshmen and sophomores. Question to you: how many players left Coach Moser these past two years. How many left Chris Mullin?
Let's stop knocking coaches that have had success in winning basketball while making excuses for our 3 years of losing more than winning. I don't expect Mullin to get to the Final Four next year even if he had 5 five star players but I expect him to recruit better players than Poser can at Loyola-Chicago and win at least 20 games next year,[/quote]

Hypocrisy.... Squashed.[/quote]

As usual you are full of sh*t. You never heard me discount Lavin’s record, not once, never, ever. I knocked Lavin repeatedly and over and over for not working, If I find out for sure that is Mullin’s MO I will go after him with the same zeal. And I never, NEVER said a word against Lavin while he was recovering from cancer and if that is why he quit working he should not have come back so shove your bs where the sun don’t shine you lying sack of sh*t. You want to come at me for what I post, no problem, but you are a make it up phoney from the word go. And don’t come back here taking one of my old posts out of context, you loser.[/quote]

I'm assuming you're directing this at '72.
 
[quote="MJDinkins" post=278481][quote="Logen" post=278479][quote="MJDinkins" post=278388][quote="Class of 72" post=278361][quote="Logen" post=278348][quote="Class of 72" post=278342][quote="NCJohnnie" post=278341]Maybe Commissioner Val can figure out a way to trade DePaul and Mitch Richmond for Loyola?[/quote]

DePaul should figure out how to hire the Loyola coach. Mitch Richmond should just stay in California.[/quote]

Just waiting for someone to go there. Fact is if you were a DePaul fan and they hired Moser before this year you would have been off the charts negative. Before the current 32-5 this year he had been a head coach for 13 years with 6 winning seasons, 3 in his last 10. Never finished higher than 5th in any year in 3 different conferences. Best record before this year was 24-13 which included winning the post season CBI tournament. Lifetime record of 194-206, 140-172 in his last ten. This is his 7th year at Loyola where he was 89-105 until this year with two winning seasons out of his first six. So you see you would have long spent the last few years demanding he be fired or sarcastically mocking him. Like it or not, it is hard, it takes time, it takes loyalty and conviction. And by the way, two of his very key players, Townes and Custer, are transfers.[/quote]

Ironically, you are the same basketball analytical genius that completely discounts Steve Lavin's overall record at just two fckg schools!
NINE post season appearances in ELEVEN years.
FIVE Sweet 16's.
You're the same guy that knocked him for ruining the St. John's season by getting cancer and ridiculed him for taking time off in the middle of the season to mourn his dad in California.:whistle:
You're a real humanitarian!
While you were busy knocking Porter Moser going back to the year gimel, you could have just focused on his past 4 years where he had winning records 3 out of the past four. While you were at it, you could have pointed out that this year he and his small team have played inspired basketball with a roster that not only includes 2 transfers but 8 freshmen and sophomores. Question to you: how many players left Coach Moser these past two years. How many left Chris Mullin?
Let's stop knocking coaches that have had success in winning basketball while making excuses for our 3 years of losing more than winning. I don't expect Mullin to get to the Final Four next year even if he had 5 five star players but I expect him to recruit better players than Poser can at Loyola-Chicago and win at least 20 games next year,[/quote]

Hypocrisy.... Squashed.[/quote]

As usual you are full of sh*t. You never heard me discount Lavin’s record, not once, never, ever. I knocked Lavin repeatedly and over and over for not working, If I find out for sure that is Mullin’s MO I will go after him with the same zeal. And I never, NEVER said a word against Lavin while he was recovering from cancer and if that is why he quit working he should not have come back so shove your bs where the sun don’t shine you lying sack of sh*t. You want to come at me for what I post, no problem, but you are a make it up phoney from the word go. And don’t come back here taking one of my old posts out of context, you loser.[/quote]

I'm assuming you're directing this at '72.[/quote]

Even if he didn't direct it to me Dink please allow me to retort.;)

Dear Logen, perhaps you took my post out of context.:whistle:

I could easily ask the great mods here to search the archives to rebut your denials but they have better things to do.  But, being a card carrying member of the Steve Lavin regular lynching crew a few years ago your spinning your story doesn't surprise me.  When you agreed with an entitled UCLA blogger about his prediction about Steve Lavin failing at St. John's you de facto agreed to diminish his record as did many here. He was fired after 6 years because at UCLA he only went to 5 sweet sixteens with an elite 8 appearance.  At St. John's he was fired after going to 4 post season appearances. 

You bashed him mercilessly but I doubt it was because he wasn’t working hard or as hard as Chris Mullin over these three years.  I would love to see Chris snag a 5 star Jordan Brown or any 5 star player but thus far Steve Lavin's targets, some of whom Mullin inherited, were higher rated and better players. 

That lazy Lavin went after players like Kyle Anderson, Amile Jefferson, Isaiah Briscoe, Isaiah Whitehead, Cheik Diallo, Steven Zimmerman, Jakarr Sampson, Mo Harkless, God's Gift Achiuwa, Dwayne Polee, Chris Obekpa, Rysheed Jordan, Brandon Sampson, Dom Pointer, D'Angelo Harrison, Phil Greene, Jamal Branch, Federico Mussini, Marcus LoVett, and a fan favorite here Amir Garrett, among others that were NOT 5 star or 4 star players.  I would throw in Adonis Delarosa but Matt is trying to recruit him as a grad transfer so guys like you would credit Mullin for him.

Now, show me who Mullin has pursued and signed after 3 years that rivals those names without mentioning Slick. Perhaps you can apply your "time-and-motion" analytical skills to tell us how hard Mullin is working as you appear ready to deligentlty evaluate Mullin, not on his record, but his work ethic.  You did it so well and honestly with Lavin and I trust you will do the same soon in maybe year 4, 5 or 6 for Mullin regardless of his record because that is what you apparently did with Lavin. 

 
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Great to see Duke go down. Can Loyola pull another rabbit out of the hat ?
 
Was hoping ( ugh ) for a Duke victory Sunday. It would have been great to have two of the final four suffered defeat at the hands of St. Johns . Onward CATHOLICS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Doesnt make a difference. On a positive note the BE has a final four participant and the ACC doesnt.
 
I was glad to see Kansas beat Duke. The vaunted ACC had 9 teams in the tournament, and I enjoyed seeing them drop one by one.
 


My first 'link'! Hope I did this right! A happy reprise of Sister Jean hoop clips.
 
[quote="redken" post=278478][quote="Chicago Days" post=278471]Anybody but Duke for sure. But this scafenfreude gig is getting awfully old.[/quote]
CD, I typically don't dance on the graves of losing teams I root against; in fact, I usually feel bad for kids who played their hearts out but come out on the short end. But I can never forget how, just a few short years ago, Coach K danced on what he perceived to be the grave of the Big East, and how he arrogantly gloated over Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt & ND quitting the Big East for the ACC, boasting how it unequivocally re-established the ACC as the premier basketball conference in the country and implying that the BE would be crushed and reduced to a mid-major as a result. Also, while I do feel for most kids on losing teams who've left it all on the court (I take no joy in seeing them break down in tears and try to console their teammates), I make an exception for Grayson Allen, who's not just a dirty player but a sneaky dirty player to boot. Sorry, it may not be classy but that's how I feel.[/quote]

Yeah, i have mixed feelings when 'hated' teams lose--even when we win(!)--seeing the emotional catharsis of these warrior kids who gave it all but lost.
That said, it is difficult to feel sorry for the Duke 'franchise.
 
[quote="richard A Steinfeld" post=278522]Doesnt make a difference. On a positive note the BE has a final four participant and the ACC doesnt.[/quote]

And we’ve ‘adopted’ Loyola-Chicago!
 
[quote="Chicago Days" post=278527][quote="redken" post=278478][quote="Chicago Days" post=278471]Anybody but Duke for sure. But this scafenfreude gig is getting awfully old.[/quote]
CD, I typically don't dance on the graves of losing teams I root against; in fact, I usually feel bad for kids who played their hearts out but come out on the short end. But I can never forget how, just a few short years ago, Coach K danced on what he perceived to be the grave of the Big East, and how he arrogantly gloated over Syracuse, Louisville, Pitt & ND quitting the Big East for the ACC, boasting how it unequivocally re-established the ACC as the premier basketball conference in the country and implying that the BE would be crushed and reduced to a mid-major as a result. Also, while I do feel for most kids on losing teams who've left it all on the court (I take no joy in seeing them break down in tears and try to console their teammates), I make an exception for Grayson Allen, who's not just a dirty player but a sneaky dirty player to boot. Sorry, it may not be classy but that's how I feel.[/quote]

Yeah, i have mixed feelings when 'hated' teams lose--even when we win(!)--seeing the emotional catharsis of these warrior kids who gave it all but lost.
That said, it is difficult to feel sorry for the Duke 'franchise.[/quote]

Agreed. They have the top 3 high school prospects all enrolling at Duke in the fall. I have no sympathy whatsoever for their loss yesterday.
 
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