Mikey Dixon Transferring
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[quote="Paultzman" post=311967][quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=311965][quote="AlBovino" post=311862]Maybe Heron is staying for his senior year?[/quote]
Realistically where could M Heron go and why - with a likely 2019-20 prominent role - would he go anywhere than right here with this refreshing Red Storm team.[/quote]
To earn $$ somewhere as staff is well aware[/quote]
True but I was focusing on the NBA - can always play out of country.
Realistically where could M Heron go and why - with a likely 2019-20 prominent role - would he go anywhere than right here with this refreshing Red Storm team.[/quote]
To earn $$ somewhere as staff is well aware[/quote]
True but I was focusing on the NBA - can always play out of country.
Spocky Ramone
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Best of luck Mikey!
As stated earlier this thread, Simon will pick up any back up PG needs. We never play more than 8. In the event that someone gets hurt, we are not in a great position, Dixon or no Dixon. Hopefully Roberts can play a few minutes in an emergency. If Simon and Trimble stay, Dixon won't play much next season either and certainly no guarantees he plays much the year after. Dixon had to get out now and he likely knows where is going so he can be eligible next January. Not ideal timing but not anything that will change the teams year end results.
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[quote="Room112" post=311956][quote="IDRAFT" post=311925]Also, what's done is done but he used up a scholarship all last year that could have been used on another player for a team that barely had seven guys. I'm all for transfers being part of the mix but it would seem that sit-outs need to be guys who clearly have a role when eligible.
Not sure Carreher isn't the same problem, but hopefully my suspicions are incorrect and he can make an impact.[/quote]
Has anyone seen Carreher play? What's his game like and how does it fit into Mullins system?[/quote]
Here is he against Va Tech. They played them even in the first half. He says he is a guard but he will be a 3/4 here on defense and play all over on offense.
Defensively he looks better than Dixon. His spacing and help are infinitely better.
Offensively he has a pretty and high arching shot with a pure release. He passes extremely well and he can handle the ball a bit. Looks like he knows the game...sets solid screens, cuts hard, directs traffic, etc.
The questions are will his strength be enough to overcome being a half-step slow and will he be patient enough to play 10-12 mpg next year without wanting to transfer?
Not sure Carreher isn't the same problem, but hopefully my suspicions are incorrect and he can make an impact.[/quote]
Has anyone seen Carreher play? What's his game like and how does it fit into Mullins system?[/quote]
Here is he against Va Tech. They played them even in the first half. He says he is a guard but he will be a 3/4 here on defense and play all over on offense.
Defensively he looks better than Dixon. His spacing and help are infinitely better.
Offensively he has a pretty and high arching shot with a pure release. He passes extremely well and he can handle the ball a bit. Looks like he knows the game...sets solid screens, cuts hard, directs traffic, etc.
The questions are will his strength be enough to overcome being a half-step slow and will he be patient enough to play 10-12 mpg next year without wanting to transfer?
[quote="we are sju" post=311815][quote="mattc" post=311812]Just saw Evan Daniels put this out on Twitter. Why would this kid transfer AGAIN and have to sit out another year?[/quote]
Wish him well.
Was not good enough for this level.
Williams time![/quote]
I liked him and thought he had very good offensive potential. No inside perspective, butvassum3 he saw writing on wall Williams about to take some of his PT and next year another crowded backcourt with Wright, Mack, Williams, Simon and who knows, maybe Heron.
He was hurt by too many blow bys and avoided contact in defense.
Wish him well.
Was not good enough for this level.
Williams time![/quote]
I liked him and thought he had very good offensive potential. No inside perspective, butvassum3 he saw writing on wall Williams about to take some of his PT and next year another crowded backcourt with Wright, Mack, Williams, Simon and who knows, maybe Heron.
He was hurt by too many blow bys and avoided contact in defense.
[quote="Moose" post=311824][quote="Anthony Mattia" post=311822][quote="Moose" post=311821]:silly: 
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Do you know something you would like to share with the rest of the class?[/quote]
No I'm just saying it never fails with this place. There is ALWAYS something.
And I'm not saying Dixon is vital and important and this is a huge loss or anything like that. But its a continuous revolving door. Now looking back again I wish Greg Williams had more PT to start the year etc.[/quote]
Hate to lose anyone. But, I think Williams is ready.very nice finisher and his stroke is fine.
[/quote]Do you know something you would like to share with the rest of the class?[/quote]
No I'm just saying it never fails with this place. There is ALWAYS something.
And I'm not saying Dixon is vital and important and this is a huge loss or anything like that. But its a continuous revolving door. Now looking back again I wish Greg Williams had more PT to start the year etc.[/quote]
Hate to lose anyone. But, I think Williams is ready.very nice finisher and his stroke is fine.
[quote="Moose" post=311856][quote="Marillac" post=311851][quote="Moose" post=311841][quote="Marillac" post=311839][quote="Knight" post=311831]Can Trimble be far behind?[/quote]
I'd be shocked. He's in line for 15-20 minutes the rest of the season and could earn a bigger role next season with his play when Shamorie (likely) departs.
Losing Dixon doesn't hurt at all now with Williams on the rise. Losing Trimble would be a devastating blow.[/quote]
How are losing Dixon and Trimble different in your mind. Near identical numbers across the board. No matter how you slice it a bench player is leaving.[/quote]
Losing Trimble now AFTER losing Dixon would be devastating. We don't have the depth to lose two guys.
If given a choice, I would have picked to retain Trimble. He can guard 4 positions and he doesn't have mental lapses. Dixon can't guard any positions and he has demonstrated a low IQ all year.[/quote]
That makes sense.
I wouldn't say he had a low IQ. He didnt turn ball over. He struggled defensively for sure. Trimble isn't exactly a world beater on defense either though. And Dixon was the better player on offense.[/quote]
Agree. Dixon was skilled. He just couldn’t stay in front of his man and didn’t fight thru picks. Think he would have gotten it eventually. But, he didn’t want to wait and after having transferred here I can’t say I blame him.
I'd be shocked. He's in line for 15-20 minutes the rest of the season and could earn a bigger role next season with his play when Shamorie (likely) departs.
Losing Dixon doesn't hurt at all now with Williams on the rise. Losing Trimble would be a devastating blow.[/quote]
How are losing Dixon and Trimble different in your mind. Near identical numbers across the board. No matter how you slice it a bench player is leaving.[/quote]
Losing Trimble now AFTER losing Dixon would be devastating. We don't have the depth to lose two guys.
If given a choice, I would have picked to retain Trimble. He can guard 4 positions and he doesn't have mental lapses. Dixon can't guard any positions and he has demonstrated a low IQ all year.[/quote]
That makes sense.
I wouldn't say he had a low IQ. He didnt turn ball over. He struggled defensively for sure. Trimble isn't exactly a world beater on defense either though. And Dixon was the better player on offense.[/quote]
Agree. Dixon was skilled. He just couldn’t stay in front of his man and didn’t fight thru picks. Think he would have gotten it eventually. But, he didn’t want to wait and after having transferred here I can’t say I blame him.
[quote="Marillac" post=311980][quote="Room112" post=311956][quote="IDRAFT" post=311925]Also, what's done is done but he used up a scholarship all last year that could have been used on another player for a team that barely had seven guys. I'm all for transfers being part of the mix but it would seem that sit-outs need to be guys who clearly have a role when eligible.
Not sure Carreher isn't the same problem, but hopefully my suspicions are incorrect and he can make an impact.[/quote]
Has anyone seen Carreher play? What's his game like and how does it fit into Mullins system?[/quote]
Here is he against Va Tech. They played them even in the first half. He says he is a guard but he will be a 3/4 here on defense and play all over on offense.
Defensively he looks better than Dixon. His spacing and help are infinitely better.
Offensively he has a pretty and high arching shot with a pure release. He passes extremely well and he can handle the ball a bit. Looks like he knows the game...sets solid screens, cuts hard, directs traffic, etc.
The questions are will his strength be enough to overcome being a half-step slow and will he be patient enough to play 10-12 mpg next year without wanting to transfer?[/quote]
If he can be a knock down three point shooter, and somewhat defend he has a spot on this team.
Not sure Carreher isn't the same problem, but hopefully my suspicions are incorrect and he can make an impact.[/quote]
Has anyone seen Carreher play? What's his game like and how does it fit into Mullins system?[/quote]
Here is he against Va Tech. They played them even in the first half. He says he is a guard but he will be a 3/4 here on defense and play all over on offense.
Defensively he looks better than Dixon. His spacing and help are infinitely better.
Offensively he has a pretty and high arching shot with a pure release. He passes extremely well and he can handle the ball a bit. Looks like he knows the game...sets solid screens, cuts hard, directs traffic, etc.
The questions are will his strength be enough to overcome being a half-step slow and will he be patient enough to play 10-12 mpg next year without wanting to transfer?[/quote]
If he can be a knock down three point shooter, and somewhat defend he has a spot on this team.
boo haarvey
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[quote="Mean Gene" post=311988]No big deal. Williams is coming on and we need a guy like Roberts to develop more than we need Dixon. If we can develop Roberts we go nine deep and that’s plenty.[/quote]
This talk about Roberts contributing this year is utter fantasy. He didn’t play a meaningful minute against the sisters of the poor, including our exhibition game, he will not play a meaningful minute in Big East competition.
This talk about Roberts contributing this year is utter fantasy. He didn’t play a meaningful minute against the sisters of the poor, including our exhibition game, he will not play a meaningful minute in Big East competition.
[quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=311971][quote="Paultzman" post=311967][quote="Sherman, Sheridan & Grant" post=311965][quote="AlBovino" post=311862]Maybe Heron is staying for his senior year?[/quote]
Realistically where could M Heron go and why - with a likely 2019-20 prominent role - would he go anywhere than right here with this refreshing Red Storm team.[/quote]
To earn $$ somewhere as staff is well aware[/quote]
True but I was focusing on the NBA - can always play out of country.[/quote]
I believe he came here thinking it would be one year and then draft. Reality will sink in come April.
If the season ended now he wouldn't be invited to the combine and he has virtually no shot of being drafted. With Ponds gone next year he would have the ability to be the main scorer and create for others more. This draft is loaded at the 2/3.
He might jump to play overseas but that would be a mistake IMO. He could play his way into a late first round pick or an early second rounder by sticking around.
At best he's 2nd team all Big East right now in a league that has one kid with first round potential (Alexander).
Realistically where could M Heron go and why - with a likely 2019-20 prominent role - would he go anywhere than right here with this refreshing Red Storm team.[/quote]
To earn $$ somewhere as staff is well aware[/quote]
True but I was focusing on the NBA - can always play out of country.[/quote]
I believe he came here thinking it would be one year and then draft. Reality will sink in come April.
If the season ended now he wouldn't be invited to the combine and he has virtually no shot of being drafted. With Ponds gone next year he would have the ability to be the main scorer and create for others more. This draft is loaded at the 2/3.
He might jump to play overseas but that would be a mistake IMO. He could play his way into a late first round pick or an early second rounder by sticking around.
At best he's 2nd team all Big East right now in a league that has one kid with first round potential (Alexander).
[quote="Redman#13" post=311989][quote="Marillac" post=311980][quote="Room112" post=311956][quote="IDRAFT" post=311925]Also, what's done is done but he used up a scholarship all last year that could have been used on another player for a team that barely had seven guys. I'm all for transfers being part of the mix but it would seem that sit-outs need to be guys who clearly have a role when eligible.
Not sure Carreher isn't the same problem, but hopefully my suspicions are incorrect and he can make an impact.[/quote]
Has anyone seen Carreher play? What's his game like and how does it fit into Mullins system?[/quote]
Here is he against Va Tech. They played them even in the first half. He says he is a guard but he will be a 3/4 here on defense and play all over on offense.
Defensively he looks better than Dixon. His spacing and help are infinitely better.
Offensively he has a pretty and high arching shot with a pure release. He passes extremely well and he can handle the ball a bit. Looks like he knows the game...sets solid screens, cuts hard, directs traffic, etc.
The questions are will his strength be enough to overcome being a half-step slow and will he be patient enough to play 10-12 mpg next year without wanting to transfer?[/quote]
If he can be a knock down three point shooter, and somewhat defend he has a spot on this team.[/quote]
The kid looks like he can dribble, shoot, and pass, and works on D.
He committed originally to Butler and de-commited when Coach Stevens bolted.
We should remember Mullin wasn't a speed burner either. Lol.
Not sure Carreher isn't the same problem, but hopefully my suspicions are incorrect and he can make an impact.[/quote]
Has anyone seen Carreher play? What's his game like and how does it fit into Mullins system?[/quote]
Here is he against Va Tech. They played them even in the first half. He says he is a guard but he will be a 3/4 here on defense and play all over on offense.
Defensively he looks better than Dixon. His spacing and help are infinitely better.
Offensively he has a pretty and high arching shot with a pure release. He passes extremely well and he can handle the ball a bit. Looks like he knows the game...sets solid screens, cuts hard, directs traffic, etc.
The questions are will his strength be enough to overcome being a half-step slow and will he be patient enough to play 10-12 mpg next year without wanting to transfer?[/quote]
If he can be a knock down three point shooter, and somewhat defend he has a spot on this team.[/quote]
The kid looks like he can dribble, shoot, and pass, and works on D.
He committed originally to Butler and de-commited when Coach Stevens bolted.
We should remember Mullin wasn't a speed burner either. Lol.
Well with all of the good news you knew the other shoe was sure to drop.
Hurts us depthwise but if we stay healthy and Williams really comes on no problem.
Heron will be gone after this year to make money somewhere. He still had half a season and I am expecting a more comfortable and exciting player. And, who thought at this time last year Ryan A. from Nova was a first round NBA pick let alone coming out early and being one?
Hurts us depthwise but if we stay healthy and Williams really comes on no problem.
Heron will be gone after this year to make money somewhere. He still had half a season and I am expecting a more comfortable and exciting player. And, who thought at this time last year Ryan A. from Nova was a first round NBA pick let alone coming out early and being one?
[quote="IDRAFT" post=311925]Also, what's done is done but he used up a scholarship all last year that could have been used on another player for a team that barely had seven guys. I'm all for transfers being part of the mix but it would seem that sit-outs need to be guys who clearly have a role when eligible.
Not sure Carreher isn't the same problem, but hopefully my suspicions are incorrect and he can make an impact.[/quote]
Never liked this signing (nor Carreher's for that matter ... nor, going back some time, Alpha Bangura's). Odds are these lower-level "stars," are never going to make a big impact when they start playing on a higher level. To paraphrase Pete Seeger: "When will we ever learn?"
Not sure Carreher isn't the same problem, but hopefully my suspicions are incorrect and he can make an impact.[/quote]
Never liked this signing (nor Carreher's for that matter ... nor, going back some time, Alpha Bangura's). Odds are these lower-level "stars," are never going to make a big impact when they start playing on a higher level. To paraphrase Pete Seeger: "When will we ever learn?"
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[quote="Boo Harvey" post=311990][quote="Mean Gene" post=311988]No big deal. Williams is coming on and we need a guy like Roberts to develop more than we need Dixon. If we can develop Roberts we go nine deep and that’s plenty.[/quote]
This talk about Roberts contributing this year is utter fantasy. He didn’t play a meaningful minute against the sisters of the poor, including our exhibition game, he will not play a meaningful minute in Big East competition.[/quote]
I tend to agree, but let's not forget that those cupcakes came in his first 6 weeks of college basketball as a true freshman. It would be odd and very disappointing if he is the same player in February and March, with almost a full year under his belt, that he was in November.
He doesn't have to become good, just competent enough to play 60-90 second spurts.
This talk about Roberts contributing this year is utter fantasy. He didn’t play a meaningful minute against the sisters of the poor, including our exhibition game, he will not play a meaningful minute in Big East competition.[/quote]
I tend to agree, but let's not forget that those cupcakes came in his first 6 weeks of college basketball as a true freshman. It would be odd and very disappointing if he is the same player in February and March, with almost a full year under his belt, that he was in November.
He doesn't have to become good, just competent enough to play 60-90 second spurts.
ronm
Well-known member
[quote="redken" post=312001][quote="IDRAFT" post=311925]Also, what's done is done but he used up a scholarship all last year that could have been used on another player for a team that barely had seven guys. I'm all for transfers being part of the mix but it would seem that sit-outs need to be guys who clearly have a role when eligible.
Not sure Carreher isn't the same problem, but hopefully my suspicions are incorrect and he can make an impact.[/quote]
Never liked this signing (nor Carreher's for that matter ... nor, going back some time, Alpha Bangura's). Odds are these lower-level "stars," are never going to make a big impact when they start playing on a higher level. To paraphrase Pete Seeger: "When will we ever learn?"[/quote]
Some of these guys we took because we were having trouble getting anyone to sign. Hopefully, we keep winning and recruiting will continue to improve!
Not sure Carreher isn't the same problem, but hopefully my suspicions are incorrect and he can make an impact.[/quote]
Never liked this signing (nor Carreher's for that matter ... nor, going back some time, Alpha Bangura's). Odds are these lower-level "stars," are never going to make a big impact when they start playing on a higher level. To paraphrase Pete Seeger: "When will we ever learn?"[/quote]
Some of these guys we took because we were having trouble getting anyone to sign. Hopefully, we keep winning and recruiting will continue to improve!
[quote="redken" post=312001][quote="IDRAFT" post=311925]Also, what's done is done but he used up a scholarship all last year that could have been used on another player for a team that barely had seven guys. I'm all for transfers being part of the mix but it would seem that sit-outs need to be guys who clearly have a role when eligible.
Not sure Carreher isn't the same problem, but hopefully my suspicions are incorrect and he can make an impact.[/quote]
Never liked this signing (nor Carreher's for that matter ... nor, going back some time, Alpha Bangura's). Odds are these lower-level "stars," are never going to make a big impact when they start playing on a higher level. To paraphrase Pete Seeger: "When will we ever learn?"[/quote]
Rowsey averaged 20 ppg after transferring from a small team. Ja Morant is a lottery pick for Murray State this year.
Not sure Carreher isn't the same problem, but hopefully my suspicions are incorrect and he can make an impact.[/quote]
Never liked this signing (nor Carreher's for that matter ... nor, going back some time, Alpha Bangura's). Odds are these lower-level "stars," are never going to make a big impact when they start playing on a higher level. To paraphrase Pete Seeger: "When will we ever learn?"[/quote]
Rowsey averaged 20 ppg after transferring from a small team. Ja Morant is a lottery pick for Murray State this year.
WillyDilly
Member
I really wish the NCAA would get rid of the transfer has to sit out a year rule. It does nothing but hurt the players. Dixon's never going to the NBA, so why not let someone like him play right away somewhere else?
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