Mike Anderson - Recruiting, Coaching, Etc.

[Sherman Sheridan & Grant]

Agree,our last game was the best in defending the 3 since
Anderson started

Help!!!
does anyone have the link to that wonderful interview with Posh Alexander?
I started watching but lost it...Also Posh is exactly the type of local kid - Mullin, Mark J, Malik Sealy and others - who are talented and family connected and want to play in their hometown.
That's  where I find realistic solace that in time Mike Anderson will ink some top local talent.
Also hope the trend of the team playing its best ball later in the season continues.
And of course hope Greg Williams returns soon.
Have the Posh
link?
blessings
 

 

[Sherman Sheridan & Grant]

Agree,our last game was the best in defending the 3 since
Anderson started

Help!!!
does anyone have the link to that wonderful interview with Posh Alexander?
I started watching but lost it...Also Posh is exactly the type of local kid - Mullin, Mark J, Malik Sealy and others - who are talented and family connected and want to play in their hometown.
That's  where I find realistic solace that in time Mike Anderson will ink some top local talent.
Also hope the trend of the team playing its best ball later in the season continues.
And of course hope Greg Williams returns soon.
Have the Posh
link?
blessings
 

 

[Coaster1955]

Starts around the 9:15 mark


 

 

[RedStormNC]

SS&G-

Here is the Posh interview from yesterday...just after the 11 min mark

https://twitter.com/BIGEASTMBB/status/1353012762943893506?s=20

 

[MCNPA]

I really love Posh as a player and seems like a great kid.  He's different type of PG than we have had before.  He's a machine out there with his intensity and he's getting exponentially better.  He's also a bruiser and slasher.  I think the real appreciation of his skill set for SJU fans started in the UConn game where it was clear that he was not able to be stopped by the UConn guards.  Those guys were all coveted players and Posh made easy work of them.  He's only going to get better and he's taking his open shots when he has them now.  He's added a lot to his game in only half season. Great player who is going to get a ton better before all is said and done.  Add more talent to this roster and he will really shine.

 

[redmanwest]

I think we're much better when he balances the pass first with him looking to take the ball to the basket and score.  We need his offense.  While he is not a good outside shooter (coluld get better over time as others have suggested), he is a bull to the basket and can get to the line.  He hopefully will also learn to play a little more under cntrol.  But overall a great player for now and the next 3 years.

 

 

[beast of the east]

I'm not throwing cold water on the positive statements about our team and coach.   But I would question just how many of us have any real clue as to what we are watching?     

We lost to Marquette by 2 points, and the criticism was the worst we've had all season, questioning whether a single roster player would see any action at all on any Big East team.   CMA not only was called out for poor recruiting, but suddenly he couldn't coach X's and O's and not bring players along either.

A few days later we beat UCONN by 4, essentially another 1 possession game.   All of a suddent the accolades started, and are cresting again, on the basis of a follow up win against a middle of the pack mid-major team.   

If we turned off the scoreboard the way we do for 3rd grade kids learning basketball, could you really tell who won or lost each game, or distinguish between the quality of our performance between the UCONN and Marquette game?   If JUlian had nailed that 3 deep in the corner after Marquette, we'd be dreaming of an NCAA bid by today.    

It's a fan board and everyone wants to expertly commentate,  but for the most part the reality is the players play, the coaches coach, and fans watch.    It really doesn't matter what gets posted here, but it's much easier to enjoy games and this team when restraint is exercised and just take these kids for what they are - a relatively young team who likely will improve from start to finish.

 

[panther2]

One continual complaint on this board has been the failure to recruit NYC kids. When Coach Anderson was hired, the question was, how is he going to recruit NYC?

When his first two classes landed Julian, Posh, and Dylan, some continued to doubt him. Looking back, the only city kids having a comparable impact are Cockburn and Curbelo at Illinois and Justin at Pitt. Evidently, coach and his staff know how to evaluate talent.

Over the summer, a lot of posters were clamoring for Salnave. He is presently averaging 3pts a game while shooting 24% from the field. Obviously, he was not the answer.

I mention these things because at times it seems as if some are always looking to find fault. The amount of references to the past 20 years of futulity is draining. Coach Anderson has not been here two years so to reference the past when talking about him is nonsensical. It is like me blaming my wife for past failed relationships.

Sometimes you have to let go of the past to enjoy the present.

 

[Sherman Sheridan & Grant]

I'm not throwing cold water on the positive statements about our team and coach.   But I would question just how many of us have any real clue as to what we are watching?     

We lost to Marquette by 2 points, and the criticism was the worst we've had all season, questioning whether a single roster player would see any action at all on any Big East team.   CMA not only was called out for poor recruiting, but suddenly he couldn't coach X's and O's and not bring players along either.

A few days later we beat UCONN by 4, essentially another 1 possession game.   All of a suddent the accolades started, and are cresting again, on the basis of a follow up win against a middle of the pack mid-major team.   

If we turned off the scoreboard the way we do for 3rd grade kids learning basketball, could you really tell who won or lost each game, or distinguish between the quality of our performance game to game?   

It's a fan board and everyone wants to expertly commentate,  but for the most part the reality is the players play, the coaches coach, and fans watch.    It really doesn't matter what gets posted here, but it's much easier to enjoy games and this team when restraint is exercised and just take these kids for what they are - a relatively young team who likely will improve from start to finish.

beast
the facts/reality are - putting optimism and pessimism aside - our team improved and played its best basketball last year at the end of the season
AND that same nice trend is continuing this season - hope it continues!
all the best
 

 

[redmanwest]

Agree. I guess it s somewht understandable that fans are passionate, but unlike pro sports, I think you have to contextualize college sports and give the kids some slack.  I have always thought that we were seeing gradual upgrades the past 2 years, and while the team is inconsistent, I feel that it is going in the right direction, etc.  Many posters here are very astute and certainly know what they see, but I think some allow their passions to get the best of them at times and that leads to wildly swinging opinions and rhetoric.

 

[Knight]

My biggest complaint about CMA has been his in game management, specifically the use of timeouts.  I have come to the conclusion that his failure to use TOs are his way of teaching the players to persevere and self correct, believing the solution to be evident and a timeout would be unnecessary.
His recruiting efforts get a 'B' thus far.  He gets an 'A' for changing the way local coaches view the program. 
 

 

[paultzman]

I'm not throwing cold water on the positive statements about our team and coach.   But I would question just how many of us have any real clue as to what we are watching?     

We lost to Marquette by 2 points, and the criticism was the worst we've had all season, questioning whether a single roster player would see any action at all on any Big East team.   CMA not only was called out for poor recruiting, but suddenly he couldn't coach X's and O's and not bring players along either.

A few days later we beat UCONN by 4, essentially another 1 possession game.   All of a suddent the accolades started, and are cresting again, on the basis of a follow up win against a middle of the pack mid-major team.   

If we turned off the scoreboard the way we do for 3rd grade kids learning basketball, could you really tell who won or lost each game, or distinguish between the quality of our performance between the UCONN and Marquette game?   If JUlian had nailed that 3 deep in the corner after Marquette, we'd be dreaming of an NCAA bid by today.    

It's a fan board and everyone wants to expertly commentate,  but for the most part the reality is the players play, the coaches coach, and fans watch.    It really doesn't matter what gets posted here, but it's much easier to enjoy games and this team when restraint is exercised and just take these kids for what they are - a relatively young team who likely will improve from start to finish.

 

Thx for the lecture Beast

 

[beast of the east]

I'm not throwing cold water on the positive statements about our team and coach.   But I would question just how many of us have any real clue as to what we are watching?     

We lost to Marquette by 2 points, and the criticism was the worst we've had all season, questioning whether a single roster player would see any action at all on any Big East team.   CMA not only was called out for poor recruiting, but suddenly he couldn't coach X's and O's and not bring players along either.

A few days later we beat UCONN by 4, essentially another 1 possession game.   All of a suddent the accolades started, and are cresting again, on the basis of a follow up win against a middle of the pack mid-major team.   

If we turned off the scoreboard the way we do for 3rd grade kids learning basketball, could you really tell who won or lost each game, or distinguish between the quality of our performance between the UCONN and Marquette game?   If JUlian had nailed that 3 deep in the corner after Marquette, we'd be dreaming of an NCAA bid by today.    

It's a fan board and everyone wants to expertly commentate,  but for the most part the reality is the players play, the coaches coach, and fans watch.    It really doesn't matter what gets posted here, but it's much easier to enjoy games and this team when restraint is exercised and just take these kids for what they are - a relatively young team who likely will improve from start to finish.


 

Thx for the lecture Beast

Rest assure my love for you is mutual.

 

[beast of the east]

I'm not throwing cold water on the positive statements about our team and coach.   But I would question just how many of us have any real clue as to what we are watching?     

We lost to Marquette by 2 points, and the criticism was the worst we've had all season, questioning whether a single roster player would see any action at all on any Big East team.   CMA not only was called out for poor recruiting, but suddenly he couldn't coach X's and O's and not bring players along either.

A few days later we beat UCONN by 4, essentially another 1 possession game.   All of a suddent the accolades started, and are cresting again, on the basis of a follow up win against a middle of the pack mid-major team.   

If we turned off the scoreboard the way we do for 3rd grade kids learning basketball, could you really tell who won or lost each game, or distinguish between the quality of our performance between the UCONN and Marquette game?   If JUlian had nailed that 3 deep in the corner after Marquette, we'd be dreaming of an NCAA bid by today.    

It's a fan board and everyone wants to expertly commentate,  but for the most part the reality is the players play, the coaches coach, and fans watch.    It really doesn't matter what gets posted here, but it's much easier to enjoy games and this team when restraint is exercised and just take these kids for what they are - a relatively young team who likely will improve from start to finish.


 

Thx for the lecture Beast

If only Zach had tweeted it, you'd have already posted it.   /media/kunena/emoticons/smile.png

 

[paultzman]

I'm not throwing cold water on the positive statements about our team and coach.   But I would question just how many of us have any real clue as to what we are watching?     

We lost to Marquette by 2 points, and the criticism was the worst we've had all season, questioning whether a single roster player would see any action at all on any Big East team.   CMA not only was called out for poor recruiting, but suddenly he couldn't coach X's and O's and not bring players along either.

A few days later we beat UCONN by 4, essentially another 1 possession game.   All of a suddent the accolades started, and are cresting again, on the basis of a follow up win against a middle of the pack mid-major team.   

If we turned off the scoreboard the way we do for 3rd grade kids learning basketball, could you really tell who won or lost each game, or distinguish between the quality of our performance between the UCONN and Marquette game?   If JUlian had nailed that 3 deep in the corner after Marquette, we'd be dreaming of an NCAA bid by today.    

It's a fan board and everyone wants to expertly commentate,  but for the most part the reality is the players play, the coaches coach, and fans watch.    It really doesn't matter what gets posted here, but it's much easier to enjoy games and this team when restraint is exercised and just take these kids for what they are - a relatively young team who likely will improve from start to finish.




 

Thx for the lecture Beast

If only Zach had tweeted it, you'd have already posted it.   /media/kunena/emoticons/smile.png


 

Appreciate that

 

[beast of the east]

I'm not throwing cold water on the positive statements about our team and coach.   But I would question just how many of us have any real clue as to what we are watching?     

We lost to Marquette by 2 points, and the criticism was the worst we've had all season, questioning whether a single roster player would see any action at all on any Big East team.   CMA not only was called out for poor recruiting, but suddenly he couldn't coach X's and O's and not bring players along either.

A few days later we beat UCONN by 4, essentially another 1 possession game.   All of a suddent the accolades started, and are cresting again, on the basis of a follow up win against a middle of the pack mid-major team.   

If we turned off the scoreboard the way we do for 3rd grade kids learning basketball, could you really tell who won or lost each game, or distinguish between the quality of our performance between the UCONN and Marquette game?   If JUlian had nailed that 3 deep in the corner after Marquette, we'd be dreaming of an NCAA bid by today.    

It's a fan board and everyone wants to expertly commentate,  but for the most part the reality is the players play, the coaches coach, and fans watch.    It really doesn't matter what gets posted here, but it's much easier to enjoy games and this team when restraint is exercised and just take these kids for what they are - a relatively young team who likely will improve from start to finish.




 

Thx for the lecture Beast

If only Zach had tweeted it, you'd have already posted it.   /media/kunena/emoticons/smile.png


 

Zzzz

NM

 

[lawmanfan]

My biggest complaint about CMA has been his in game management, specifically the use of timeouts.  I have come to the conclusion that his failure to use TOs are his way of teaching the players to persevere and self correct, believing the solution to be evident and a timeout would be unnecessary.
His recruiting efforts get a 'B' thus far.  He gets an 'A' for changing the way local coaches view the program. 

 

I believe that this is the point most of the posters are missing.  Most of us know the game to some extent.  Everyone knows a good play from a bad play, when we're giving up too many open looks, when we are getting killed inside, etc.  Many of us understand when that's caused by play style or personnel or some combination of the two.

Where I think the drop-off occurs is in understanding that Anderson has a specific plan and vision based on 17 years of head coaching experience.  He's willing to give players minutes and to let them play through mistakes because (a) he's teaching; (b) he's trying to build confidence; and (c) he views each year as a step on the road towards building what he wants. 

I can understand why our fan base has some trouble with that because (a) when was the last time we had a coach with 17 years of head coaching experience and/or a well-defined plan for how to build a program; and (b) most fans don't get excited by program-building steps, they want to see wins.

IMHO next year is not going to be a giant leap forward, either.  It's going to be a year when Anderson adds 3 more of "his" players to the core he's building. 

No argument that reasonable minds can differ about what the potential ceiling for his approach will be, or disagree with some of his tactical decisions.  But no matter which way you slice it, it is light years ahead of where St John's has been as a program in basically forever, and there is little question that even if Anderson doesn't take the program to the top of the mountain himself, he's doing the hard work that needs to be done to get in shape for that climb.

 

[Anthony Mattia]

I believe that this is the point most of the posters are missing.  Most of us know the game to some extent.  Everyone knows a good play from a bad play, when we're giving up too many open looks, when we are getting killed inside, etc.  Many of us understand when that's caused by play style or personnel or some combination of the two.

Where I think the drop-off occurs is in understanding that Anderson has a specific plan and vision based on 17 years of head coaching experience.  He's willing to give players minutes and to let them play through mistakes because (a) he's teaching; (b) he's trying to build confidence; and (c) he views each year as a step on the road towards building what he wants. 

I can understand why our fan base has some trouble with that because (a) when was the last time we had a coach with 17 years of head coaching experience and/or a well-defined plan for how to build a program; and (b) most fans don't get excited by program-building steps, they want to see wins.

IMHO next year is not going to be a giant leap forward, either.  It's going to be a year when Anderson adds 3 more of "his" players to the core he's building. 

No argument that reasonable minds can differ about what the potential ceiling for his approach will be, or disagree with some of his tactical decisions.  But no matter which way you slice it, it is light years ahead of where St John's has been as a program in basically forever, and there is little question that even if Anderson doesn't take the program to the top of the mountain himself, he's doing the hard work that needs to be done to get in shape for that climb.
 

Stop making sense lawmanfan, you will only confuse us!  /media/kunena/emoticons/silly.png

 

[SLYFOXX1968]

In reply to those of Lawman , Mattia and the good  points they made , I offer this ., CMA 's job here is a different challenge than what he dealt with at Missouri and Arkansas. Those Programs , at large State Universities , weren't in the dismal Swamp for the last 20 years like we are . And , they have unlimited budgets for Athletics . Here, CMA is trying to build a Program that replicates his success at those schools ., the issue will be can he get the Talent Level of Players here that he was able to there .  Let's hope he is . We aren't near that level yet . He was competitive in the SEC at Arkansas but , usually finished mid pack . Tough League with Kentucky and the rest . BE is tough to get to top tier too . 

 

[room112]

My biggest complaint about CMA has been his in game management, specifically the use of timeouts.  I have come to the conclusion that his failure to use TOs are his way of teaching the players to persevere and self correct, believing the solution to be evident and a timeout would be unnecessary.
His recruiting efforts get a 'B' thus far.  He gets an 'A' for changing the way local coaches view the program. 



 

I believe that this is the point most of the posters are missing.  Most of us know the game to some extent.  Everyone knows a good play from a bad play, when we're giving up too many open looks, when we are getting killed inside, etc.  Many of us understand when that's caused by play style or personnel or some combination of the two.

Where I think the drop-off occurs is in understanding that Anderson has a specific plan and vision based on 17 years of head coaching experience.  He's willing to give players minutes and to let them play through mistakes because (a) he's teaching; (b) he's trying to build confidence; and (c) he views each year as a step on the road towards building what he wants. 

I can understand why our fan base has some trouble with that because (a) when was the last time we had a coach with 17 years of head coaching experience and/or a well-defined plan for how to build a program; and (b) most fans don't get excited by program-building steps, they want to see wins.

IMHO next year is not going to be a giant leap forward, either.  It's going to be a year when Anderson adds 3 more of "his" players to the core he's building. 

No argument that reasonable minds can differ about what the potential ceiling for his approach will be, or disagree with some of his tactical decisions.  But no matter which way you slice it, it is light years ahead of where St John's has been as a program in basically forever, and there is little question that even if Anderson doesn't take the program to the top of the mountain himself, he's doing the hard work that needs to be done to get in shape for that climb.

Great post. From my pespective, it's a lack of patience from the fan base, and I get it. To be quite blunt, we have plenty of older fans on this board who are used to the winning of the old days, and are just sick of all of the losing of the past two decades, and don't want to wait any longer. I understand  that. 

But in reality, it was never realistic to expect winning to happen immediatley upon the hire of CMA when you take a step back and look at the entirety of the situation and where this program has gone to. 

Sure, that's probably not what most people want to hear, but that's how I see it.