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SI1996 post=464437 said:
Can we please get a positive Posh returning message thread next :) 
 
That should be your default assumption.
Hard for folks to process that most of the negativity emanates from outside the program, not within.
 
MainMan post=464414 said:
Damn. 
Wonder if I can cancel my new vanity plate "JamesJonesIsTheMan." 

You can always start a “Will James Jones Ever Be the Man” thread, and see where it goes.
 
kranmars post=464440 said:
MainMan post=464414 said:
Damn. 
Wonder if I can cancel my new vanity plate "JamesJonesIsTheMan." 
 

You can always start a “Will James Jones Ever Be the Man” thread, and see where it goes.

Obviously the thread must be called:  James Jones - is he really the guy?

Could go with JJ - GUY FR as the license plate
 
You can compare the posters reaction to when Lavin was fired eight years ago to today as to what  constitutes a successful  SJU program. I felt that Anderson had to get to the dance next year to keep his job but  I feel the bar has been lowered so much as to what is a successful program is he will be kept on if SJU makes the NIT next year.
Lavin and Anderson appear to be evaluated with different expectations because of the eight years of failure and while we all supported Craggs hiring he doesn’t seem to have any more answers then his predasessors.
 
Enright post=464447 said:
You can compare the posters reaction to when Lavin was fired eight years ago to today as to what  constitutes a successful  SJU program. I felt that Anderson had to get to the dance next year to keep his job but  I feel the bar has been lowered so much as to what is a successful program is he will be kept on if SJU makes the NIT next year.
Lavin and Anderson appear to be evaluated with different expectations because of the eight years of failure and while we all supported Craggs hiring he doesn’t seem to have any more answers then his predasessors.

Respectfully disagree.  I think Anderson will be gone if he doesn’t make the tournament next year.
 
 
Boo Harvey post=464448 said:
Enright post=464447 said:
You can compare the posters reaction to when Lavin was fired eight years ago to today as to what  constitutes a successful  SJU program. I felt that Anderson had to get to the dance next year to keep his job but  I feel the bar has been lowered so much as to what is a successful program is he will be kept on if SJU makes the NIT next year.
Lavin and Anderson appear to be evaluated with different expectations because of the eight years of failure and while we all supported Craggs hiring he doesn’t seem to have any more answers then his predasessors.

Respectfully disagree.  I think Anderson will be gone if he doesn’t make the tournament next year.

 
IMO If the team shows a modicum of improvement next season, then CMA is back for a 5th season. The bar has never been set lower, and the leash has never been longer.  At least that's the way I see it. 
 
3 years without postseason hoops. A good coach compared to those we’ve seen in the last 20 years, but 100% not the long term answer.

I’m curious why such a large number of the fanbase are so patient with an eye toward continuing to change culture/build a winner coupled with these results. This is dragging out and a lot of people are perfectly content with it. 

He’s a fish out of water and the best you could hope for is that he a bridge coach at his age. You have nothing to lose by looking for the long term answer at HC. 

 
 
I’m reading this thread and chuckling. There must be a few gymnasts amongst us. I’ve not seen so much flipping since the last summer Olympics.
Like everyone else, I read all of the threads, especially the game threads. For those of you that were anxious to run CMA out of town, let’s hope your train tickets were refundable.
Note John Wooden was 19-12 in year 4 at UCLA.
Jay Wright was 15-16 in year 2. 18-17 in year 3 at Nova.
Coach K  was 10-17 and 11-17 in years 2 and 3 at Duke.

I’m in no way suggesting that CMA belongs in the same coaching breath as those 3.  But perhaps a little reflection by those anxious for change, or making demands of NCAA tournament appearances is in order.
 
Porgyman post=464452 said:
I’m reading this thread and chuckling. There must be a few gymnasts amongst us. I’ve not seen so much flipping since the last summer Olympics.
Like everyone else, I read all of the threads, especially the game threads. For those of you that were anxious to run CMA out of town, let’s hope your train tickets were refundable.
Note John Wooden was 19-12 in year 4 at UCLA.
Jay Wright was 15-16 in year 2. 18-17 in year 3 at Nova.
Coach K  was 10-17 and 11-17 in years 2 and 3 at Duke.

I’m in no way suggesting that CMA belongs in the same coaching breath as those 3.  But perhaps a little reflection by those anxious for change, or making demands of NCAA tournament appearances is in order.

I do love when people bring up the first few year records of Coach K, Jay Wright and John Wooden.  All well and good.

Except for the hundreds of other examples of failure coaches during that time window.
 
Porgyman post=464452 said:
I’m reading this thread and chuckling. There must be a few gymnasts amongst us. I’ve not seen so much flipping since the last summer Olympics.
Like everyone else, I read all of the threads, especially the game threads. For those of you that were anxious to run CMA out of town, let’s hope your train tickets were refundable.
Note John Wooden was 19-12 in year 4 at UCLA.
Jay Wright was 15-16 in year 2. 18-17 in year 3 at Nova.
Coach K  was 10-17 and 11-17 in years 2 and 3 at Duke.

I’m in no way suggesting that CMA belongs in the same coaching breath as those 3.  But perhaps a little reflection by those anxious for change, or making demands of NCAA tournament appearances is in order.


I think for continuity purposes it is a good thing that MA is here another year, but keep in mind this is not his 4th year of coaching.  It is his 20th, so expectations are a little greater as far as results.  You are comparing coaches first few years to Mikes 20th year. 
 
 
Moose post=464454 said:
Porgyman post=464452 said:
I’m reading this thread and chuckling. There must be a few gymnasts amongst us. I’ve not seen so much flipping since the last summer Olympics.
Like everyone else, I read all of the threads, especially the game threads. For those of you that were anxious to run CMA out of town, let’s hope your train tickets were refundable.
Note John Wooden was 19-12 in year 4 at UCLA.
Jay Wright was 15-16 in year 2. 18-17 in year 3 at Nova.
Coach K  was 10-17 and 11-17 in years 2 and 3 at Duke.

I’m in no way suggesting that CMA belongs in the same coaching breath as those 3.  But perhaps a little reflection by those anxious for change, or making demands of NCAA tournament appearances is in order.

I do love when people bring up the first few year records of Coach K, Jay Wright and John Wooden.  All well and good.

Except for the hundreds of other examples of failure coaches during that time window.
Think Abe Lincoln's first 3 Illinois team's all finished under .500
 
sirvoo post=464451 said:
3 years without postseason hoops. A good coach compared to those we’ve seen in the last 20 years, but 100% not the long term answer.

I’m curious why such a large number of the fanbase are so patient with an eye toward continuing to change culture/build a winner coupled with these results. This is dragging out and a lot of people are perfectly content with it. 

He’s a fish out of water and the best you could hope for is that he a bridge coach at his age. You have nothing to lose by looking for the long term answer at HC. 


 
To me the answer is clear to your question. It was very well documented that Mullin was often not working and absent from campus while Lavin stopped recruiting, clearly his strength, half way through his 5 years.
CMA is always working whether it be in the gym or out recruiting and for that alone he is much better than our two prior coaches. He has a system, perfect no it is not, but he clearly has a tried and proven system of play that he adheres to and the fans seem to like. 
for 2 seasons he overachieved, and I don’t just judge conference play , I judge the entire season of work, while this season was a disappointment. Was it due to Covid 19, Pinzon’s lingering effects which kept him out longer than we would have liked , too many new players , some poor coaching decisions, a combination of all of the above ? I truly can’t answer. 
personally I believe he is a smart man and réalisés that he can’t have another mass exodus of players like he had last year and hope and pray that he will bring in talent greater than the talent that leaves. I believe he will do his best to keep every player currently on the roster , and hopefully he will succeed in that task , and thereafter try to grab some players on the transfer market that fill our needs ( shooters ). 
If he can return Posh, Wusu, Pinzon, Wheeler, Nyiewe, Stanley, Soriano, Traoré together with the two committed freshman he has a very good base to start from and can continue to build off his 17 win system. 
a very important next few weeks and I am pleased that CMA will be there at the helm instead of us starting from scratch. 
 
I don’t see an arrival of many new 4* or 5* players until we go to the dance.
 
Like others have said, if we keep everyone who matters, that's a good start to next season.

Not sure how strong our portal game is, but if we can land a 6'5/6'6-ish guy who can swing between two positions and can play D, I'll be pleased. Not expecting any studs, but someone who can be a competent backup from the get-go is vital.

Fingers are crossed that Posh, Pinzon, and Wusu are our starters next season, and that if Storr is good enough to turn Wusu into a supersub at multiple positions, CMA will allow it to happen.

I would also like to see Awaka here.
 
We need to reel in a great shooter ,a 6.5 swing man playing the 2 and 3  would be ideal.
Hopefully we could grab one from the portal.
 
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