That should be your default assumption.SI1996 post=464437 said:Can we please get a positive Posh returning message thread next
MainMan post=464414 said:Damn.
Wonder if I can cancel my new vanity plate "JamesJonesIsTheMan."
kranmars post=464440 said:MainMan post=464414 said:Damn.
Wonder if I can cancel my new vanity plate "JamesJonesIsTheMan."
You can always start a “Will James Jones Ever Be the Man” thread, and see where it goes.
Enright post=464447 said:You can compare the posters reaction to when Lavin was fired eight years ago to today as to what constitutes a successful SJU program. I felt that Anderson had to get to the dance next year to keep his job but I feel the bar has been lowered so much as to what is a successful program is he will be kept on if SJU makes the NIT next year.
Lavin and Anderson appear to be evaluated with different expectations because of the eight years of failure and while we all supported Craggs hiring he doesn’t seem to have any more answers then his predasessors.
Respectfully disagree. I think Anderson will be gone if he doesn’t make the tournament next year.
IMO If the team shows a modicum of improvement next season, then CMA is back for a 5th season. The bar has never been set lower, and the leash has never been longer. At least that's the way I see it.Boo Harvey post=464448 said:Enright post=464447 said:You can compare the posters reaction to when Lavin was fired eight years ago to today as to what constitutes a successful SJU program. I felt that Anderson had to get to the dance next year to keep his job but I feel the bar has been lowered so much as to what is a successful program is he will be kept on if SJU makes the NIT next year.
Lavin and Anderson appear to be evaluated with different expectations because of the eight years of failure and while we all supported Craggs hiring he doesn’t seem to have any more answers then his predasessors.
Respectfully disagree. I think Anderson will be gone if he doesn’t make the tournament next year.
Porgyman post=464452 said:I’m reading this thread and chuckling. There must be a few gymnasts amongst us. I’ve not seen so much flipping since the last summer Olympics.
Like everyone else, I read all of the threads, especially the game threads. For those of you that were anxious to run CMA out of town, let’s hope your train tickets were refundable.
Note John Wooden was 19-12 in year 4 at UCLA.
Jay Wright was 15-16 in year 2. 18-17 in year 3 at Nova.
Coach K was 10-17 and 11-17 in years 2 and 3 at Duke.
I’m in no way suggesting that CMA belongs in the same coaching breath as those 3. But perhaps a little reflection by those anxious for change, or making demands of NCAA tournament appearances is in order.
Porgyman post=464452 said:I’m reading this thread and chuckling. There must be a few gymnasts amongst us. I’ve not seen so much flipping since the last summer Olympics.
Like everyone else, I read all of the threads, especially the game threads. For those of you that were anxious to run CMA out of town, let’s hope your train tickets were refundable.
Note John Wooden was 19-12 in year 4 at UCLA.
Jay Wright was 15-16 in year 2. 18-17 in year 3 at Nova.
Coach K was 10-17 and 11-17 in years 2 and 3 at Duke.
I’m in no way suggesting that CMA belongs in the same coaching breath as those 3. But perhaps a little reflection by those anxious for change, or making demands of NCAA tournament appearances is in order.
I think for continuity purposes it is a good thing that MA is here another year, but keep in mind this is not his 4th year of coaching. It is his 20th, so expectations are a little greater as far as results. You are comparing coaches first few years to Mikes 20th year.
Think Abe Lincoln's first 3 Illinois team's all finished under .500Moose post=464454 said:Porgyman post=464452 said:I’m reading this thread and chuckling. There must be a few gymnasts amongst us. I’ve not seen so much flipping since the last summer Olympics.
Like everyone else, I read all of the threads, especially the game threads. For those of you that were anxious to run CMA out of town, let’s hope your train tickets were refundable.
Note John Wooden was 19-12 in year 4 at UCLA.
Jay Wright was 15-16 in year 2. 18-17 in year 3 at Nova.
Coach K was 10-17 and 11-17 in years 2 and 3 at Duke.
I’m in no way suggesting that CMA belongs in the same coaching breath as those 3. But perhaps a little reflection by those anxious for change, or making demands of NCAA tournament appearances is in order.
I do love when people bring up the first few year records of Coach K, Jay Wright and John Wooden. All well and good.
Except for the hundreds of other examples of failure coaches during that time window.
To me the answer is clear to your question. It was very well documented that Mullin was often not working and absent from campus while Lavin stopped recruiting, clearly his strength, half way through his 5 years.sirvoo post=464451 said:3 years without postseason hoops. A good coach compared to those we’ve seen in the last 20 years, but 100% not the long term answer.
I’m curious why such a large number of the fanbase are so patient with an eye toward continuing to change culture/build a winner coupled with these results. This is dragging out and a lot of people are perfectly content with it.
He’s a fish out of water and the best you could hope for is that he a bridge coach at his age. You have nothing to lose by looking for the long term answer at HC.
Duke of Earlington post=464462 said:Is Anderson now in a "Make the tourney or lose your job" situation in year 4?
Moose post=464463 said:Duke of Earlington post=464462 said:Is Anderson now in a "Make the tourney or lose your job" situation in year 4?
Ummm yea.
Hard to say in light of the big extension he received...