Mark Jackson

Not a good comparison from mike Woodson to Jackson. Everyone knew Woodson would be canned and the Knicks were horrible all year.

I agree most of his firing has to do with squabbling with upper management. But let me ask you guys this. If a perfect 10 makes a few off hand remarks on a date, are you going to dump her? No. But if she's a 5 you're likely not going to think twice.

Jackson is a 5 and was arrogant on top of it.
 
Without addressing your insufferable sarcasm....

You misuse the word here. My sarcasm is rather charming, sometimes intoxicating. Just ask @lawmanfan.

But insufferable? That word describes many things, for instance Jerry Garcia's attempts at playing guitar. But not my sarcasm. No. Never.
 
Without addressing your insufferable sarcasm....

You misuse the word here. My sarcasm is rather charming, sometimes intoxicating. Just ask @lawmanfan.

But insufferable? That word describes many things, for instance Jerry Garcia's attempts at playing guitar. But not my sarcasm. No. Never.
Just ask D'Angelo!
 
Without addressing your insufferable sarcasm....

You misuse the word here. My sarcasm is rather charming, sometimes intoxicating. Just ask @lawmanfan.

But insufferable? That word describes many things, for instance Jerry Garcia's attempts at playing guitar. But not my sarcasm. No. Never.

Okok fair enough maybe insufferable was harsh. It's actually funny but when arguing opposing views with you it's not. For instance I thought the DLO post was hilarious. Unfortunately he doesn't frequent the site enough to agree with me.
 
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/mark-jackson-fired-golden-state-warriors/

I first interviewed Mark Jackson about 20 games into last season for a piece about Golden State’s massive improvement on defense. Jackson went out of his way to point out, unsolicited and on the record, that it would be wrong to publicly credit any single assistant coach for the team’s transformation.

It was a weird thing to say unprompted, my first window into Jackson’s personality — a strange brew of braggadocio, inspiration, and insecurity. That personality ultimately cost Jackson his job in Golden State despite a near-unprecedented run of on-court success for one of the league’s sad-sack franchises. There were some on-court issues, but Jackson and his staff did a nice job with this roster. They are gone mostly because the environment in Golden State became toxic.

As I wrote last week, Jackson demoted Brian Scalabrine, an assistant coach, to the D-League after initially firing him without cause in front of players. The team fired another assistant, Darren Erman, after learning he had been secretly recording conversations Jackson had with other coaches. Erman was concerned Jackson was bad-mouthing him behind his back, multiple sources have said, and poisoning his relationship with players. The team changed the location of Erman’s parking spot without warning, sources say. Jackson also made it known he preferred that Jerry West, a senior adviser to the Warriors, stay away from practices.

The Warriors have looked into allegations that another assistant coach beyond Erman had also been recording internal conversations, per multiple sources. The environment had just grown dysfunctional; Jackson’s “don’t mention a particular assistant” quip, a reference to Mike Malone, now the Kings’ coach, turned out to be a harbinger.

The responsibility isn’t all on Jackson. Joe Lacob, the team’s owner, is a loud and strong personality, and two such personalities mixed together can create bad results. No one should be taping conversations in California without consent. West is an intimidating presence, and Jackson isn’t the first head coach to request West keep his distance; Phil Jackson famously did the same in Los Angeles, asserting himself early as the franchise’s alpha male.

But the front office clearly became fed up with Jackson’s combativeness, and Jackson justifiably did not want to return as a potential lame duck in the last year of his contract next season. Firing Jackson is a risk, but front offices and ownership ultimately hold the power, and they have the right to take that kind of risk.

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Golden State did well under Jackson, and he was a big part of that success. The players spoke up for him and played hard. But the Warriors are wagering they are better off with a different coach, and they have legitimate grounds — for basketball reasons and off-court issues — to believe that.

Now let’s see who they hire.
 
What the hell do you expect from a guy who takes pictures of his johnson

Were these the "magic johnson" photos Donald Sterling found so offensive?
 
I can see him with the Pistons. I can't imagine him wanting him to step down to college at this point, his ego is too big.
 
For Jackson to get another NBA job, he will have to explain the relationship he had with his coaching staff with the Warriors. It will probably happen, but the last thing any team needs is a guy who creates problems with his own staff.

The whole discussion about whether Jackson is a good or bad coach illustrates how incapable fans are of fairly judging a coach. Did the Warriors under achieve, or over achieve under Jackson? Would Phil Jackson have all those rings without Jordan, Pippen, Kobe, or Shaq - not to mention Reed, Frazier, etc. The same could be said about Riley. For that matter, only Larry Brown has consistently improved almost all teams he's been associated with, and with the Knicks he was fired while doing that.

Basketball coaches are almost always judged by the final result, which may or may not mean much. Auerbach won it all with the Celtics multiple times. So did Bill Russell (twice), but was sub .500 coaching Seattle. So, was Russell a very good coach capable of winning a championship, or a subpar coach who could win with a great team (including himself). Riley ran most of the time when he saw the talent wane. So did Jackson.

Jackson will likely get another shot. After all, the Warriors made the playoffs in back to back years for the first time in almost a quarter century. One of the articles announcing his firing stated:

"But Jackson's boisterous personality at times did not play well with Warriors management, his staff and -- to a much lesser extent -- his players. And his attitude, which bordered on confidence and cockiness, also came off as increasingly insecure when the team struggled."

The helicopters and broom sweep appear to be much more of his core persona than those who dismissed it would admit. For my money, I'd pass on him.
 
I always liked bosses who garnered the respect, and in some rare cases, the adoration of his/her subordinates rather than toadying up to his/her superiors. It was never optimal for individual advancement, but it sure made the place run better.
 
Wonder if Mark Jackson 's contract with ESPN allows him to leave at any time to pursue coaching? Btw, he joins FRASCHILLA MAHONEY,LAVIN, NORM as ESPN commemtators...Is there a pattern?
 
Wonder if Mark Jackson 's contract with ESPN allows him to leave at any time to pursue coaching? Btw, he joins FRASCHILLA MAHONEY,LAVIN, NORM as ESPN commemtators...Is there a pattern?
SJU should start a top notch communications program :)
 
I think he's even more overrated as a commentator than he is as a coach, but I'm just glad he's not here.
 
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