LJ in Transfer Portal?
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Mullins Revenge
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2 things being blown out of proportion:
1- LJ leaving. We will not miss a beat w/o him.,
2- Missing out on grad transfers. Both those kids were ok players and would have gotten marginal minutes off the bench. We will not miss a beat w/o them.
1- LJ leaving. We will not miss a beat w/o him.,
2- Missing out on grad transfers. Both those kids were ok players and would have gotten marginal minutes off the bench. We will not miss a beat w/o them.
[quote="SJUFAN2" post=388145][quote="fordham96" post=388133][quote="Paul Massell" post=388123][quote="linx" post=388122]
You can draw whatever conclusions you want. You can be emotional. Please tell me why they were pursuing players all spring? It wasn't just Ray.[/quote]
That is not the issue.
LJ enters transfer portal 4/26 = highly disappointing but we move on.
LJ enters transfer portal 5/26 = the point[/quote]
There is a flip side to this, what if SJU was in tight with a 5 star stud or an elite grad transfer with quite frankly better numbers than LJ? In other words let's not kid ourselves and act like SJU's other options were significantly better if better at all than LJ coming back. If they were he might have been in the portal earlier. And none of us would have any problems with that including me. This is not to justify him waiting this long to decide, just a contrarian point.[/quote]
So you're arguing that it's fine that he did this because St Johns wouldn't have held the ship for him to test the draft waters if say Michael Jordan was available and wanted to come here as a 1st year player? Fine. You win that fantasy.
The reality is that St John's had no obligation to hold the ship for him once he went into the draft.
The reality is that they did so despite him going into the draft and transfer portal last year also.
The reality is that they did this for a kid they inherited, and didn't recruit for this system.
The reality is that they passed on a local kid who would have been a nice fit for a 1 year grad transfer in order to do right by LJ.
The reality is that LJ fucked them for doing right by him.
The reality is that LJ gets no credit whatsoever for doing what he's perfectly entitled to do when by doing so he fucks over people who were bending over backwards to do right by him.
The reality is that LJ handled this very badly, and there's a price to be paid to ones image/reputation when you act poorly.[/quote]
I have no idea idea what you are talking about but you clearly did not understand my post. Is this supposed to be an attack on what I wrote because it if is your did a lousy job.
And trust me I would be careful with making pronouncements like "SJU held onto his scholarship for him..." You have no idea what SJU was doing.
You can draw whatever conclusions you want. You can be emotional. Please tell me why they were pursuing players all spring? It wasn't just Ray.[/quote]
That is not the issue.
LJ enters transfer portal 4/26 = highly disappointing but we move on.
LJ enters transfer portal 5/26 = the point[/quote]
There is a flip side to this, what if SJU was in tight with a 5 star stud or an elite grad transfer with quite frankly better numbers than LJ? In other words let's not kid ourselves and act like SJU's other options were significantly better if better at all than LJ coming back. If they were he might have been in the portal earlier. And none of us would have any problems with that including me. This is not to justify him waiting this long to decide, just a contrarian point.[/quote]
So you're arguing that it's fine that he did this because St Johns wouldn't have held the ship for him to test the draft waters if say Michael Jordan was available and wanted to come here as a 1st year player? Fine. You win that fantasy.
The reality is that St John's had no obligation to hold the ship for him once he went into the draft.
The reality is that they did so despite him going into the draft and transfer portal last year also.
The reality is that they did this for a kid they inherited, and didn't recruit for this system.
The reality is that they passed on a local kid who would have been a nice fit for a 1 year grad transfer in order to do right by LJ.
The reality is that LJ fucked them for doing right by him.
The reality is that LJ gets no credit whatsoever for doing what he's perfectly entitled to do when by doing so he fucks over people who were bending over backwards to do right by him.
The reality is that LJ handled this very badly, and there's a price to be paid to ones image/reputation when you act poorly.[/quote]
I have no idea idea what you are talking about but you clearly did not understand my post. Is this supposed to be an attack on what I wrote because it if is your did a lousy job.
And trust me I would be careful with making pronouncements like "SJU held onto his scholarship for him..." You have no idea what SJU was doing.
[quote="Johnny4Life" post=388137]Sucks that Figgy wants to transfer. I'm hoping that he will change his mind.
However, I think his reasoning is that it primarily plays SF and that position on this team is probably the deepest it's been in awhile. Champagnie and Earlington are better at PF. However, either one of them are quick enough to defend a SF. Then if you have Cole, Wusu, Williams, Caraher who can play SF in MA's system as well.
Hard to knock a kid for not wanting to better himself with more guaranteed playing time. Especially if they have pro aspirations.[/quote]
It's not hard to knock him at all. He's entitled to do what's best for him. No argument on that point.
He's also entitled to criticism when he hangs out to dry the people who were bending over backwards to give him a landing spot if the pro aspirations didn't playout the way he wanted.
Paul is 100% correct. It's not that he feels another school is a better option for his dreams of playing professionally. It's that he waited until the last minute to mention he would consider a transfer if playing pro wasn't an option.
This is why I never have a problem with new HC's suggesting its in the interests of a player they inherited to transfer. I would have a problem if they cut them loose a month before classes started, but that's never the case.
However, I think his reasoning is that it primarily plays SF and that position on this team is probably the deepest it's been in awhile. Champagnie and Earlington are better at PF. However, either one of them are quick enough to defend a SF. Then if you have Cole, Wusu, Williams, Caraher who can play SF in MA's system as well.
Hard to knock a kid for not wanting to better himself with more guaranteed playing time. Especially if they have pro aspirations.[/quote]
It's not hard to knock him at all. He's entitled to do what's best for him. No argument on that point.
He's also entitled to criticism when he hangs out to dry the people who were bending over backwards to give him a landing spot if the pro aspirations didn't playout the way he wanted.
Paul is 100% correct. It's not that he feels another school is a better option for his dreams of playing professionally. It's that he waited until the last minute to mention he would consider a transfer if playing pro wasn't an option.
This is why I never have a problem with new HC's suggesting its in the interests of a player they inherited to transfer. I would have a problem if they cut them loose a month before classes started, but that's never the case.
[quote="Duke of Earlington" post=388147]2 things being blown out of proportion:
1- LJ leaving. We will not miss a beat w/o him.,
2- Missing out on grad transfers. Both those kids were ok players and would have gotten marginal minutes off the bench. We will not miss a beat w/o them.[/quote]
I agree. Neither is so huge an issue for this team on the court next year that it can't be overcome.
The issue is how poorly this was handled by LJ and his handlers.
1- LJ leaving. We will not miss a beat w/o him.,
2- Missing out on grad transfers. Both those kids were ok players and would have gotten marginal minutes off the bench. We will not miss a beat w/o them.[/quote]
I agree. Neither is so huge an issue for this team on the court next year that it can't be overcome.
The issue is how poorly this was handled by LJ and his handlers.
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Moose
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[quote="Duke of Earlington" post=388147]2 things being blown out of proportion:
1- LJ leaving. We will not miss a beat w/o him.,
2- Missing out on grad transfers. Both those kids were ok players and would have gotten marginal minutes off the bench. We will not miss a beat w/o them.[/quote]
:S
1- LJ leaving. We will not miss a beat w/o him.,
2- Missing out on grad transfers. Both those kids were ok players and would have gotten marginal minutes off the bench. We will not miss a beat w/o them.[/quote]
:S
The idea that we won't miss a beat losing our leading scorer and a sure pre-season All Big East selection is more than a stretch. Having said that, I do agree that we can still be a solid BE team next year if Cole and Anderson adjust to Div 1 play pretty quickly.
[quote="fordham96" post=388148][quote="SJUFAN2" post=388145][quote="fordham96" post=388133][quote="Paul Massell" post=388123][quote="linx" post=388122]
You can draw whatever conclusions you want. You can be emotional. Please tell me why they were pursuing players all spring? It wasn't just Ray.[/quote]
That is not the issue.
LJ enters transfer portal 4/26 = highly disappointing but we move on.
LJ enters transfer portal 5/26 = the point[/quote]
There is a flip side to this, what if SJU was in tight with a 5 star stud or an elite grad transfer with quite frankly better numbers than LJ? In other words let's not kid ourselves and act like SJU's other options were significantly better if better at all than LJ coming back. If they were he might have been in the portal earlier. And none of us would have any problems with that including me. This is not to justify him waiting this long to decide, just a contrarian point.[/quote]
So you're arguing that it's fine that he did this because St Johns wouldn't have held the ship for him to test the draft waters if say Michael Jordan was available and wanted to come here as a 1st year player? Fine. You win that fantasy.
The reality is that St John's had no obligation to hold the ship for him once he went into the draft.
The reality is that they did so despite him going into the draft and transfer portal last year also.
The reality is that they did this for a kid they inherited, and didn't recruit for this system.
The reality is that they passed on a local kid who would have been a nice fit for a 1 year grad transfer in order to do right by LJ.
The reality is that LJ fucked them for doing right by him.
The reality is that LJ gets no credit whatsoever for doing what he's perfectly entitled to do when by doing so he fucks over people who were bending over backwards to do right by him.
The reality is that LJ handled this very badly, and there's a price to be paid to ones image/reputation when you act poorly.[/quote]
I have no idea idea what you are talking about but you clearly did not understand my post. Is this supposed to be an attack on what I wrote because it if is your did a lousy job.
And trust me I would be careful with making pronouncements like "SJU held onto his scholarship for him..." You have no idea what SJU was doing.[/quote]
Why would that be an attack? You made a contrarian point, which I conceded. Contrary to your contrarian point, public perception is the reality of how this played out. I have no inside info. Never have and never claimed to have. You've always been a fairly reliable source of information from the program, but that was before CMA and his staff. Perhaps that's still the case, but it seems that this staff in particular runs a tight ship on leaking information so then again, maybe it's not still the case.
Feel free to color in the details on what they did and didn't do with the ship for LJ when he went pro because without additional information, it sure seems that they passed on Salnave to hold the spot for LJ. That doesn't mean that LJ made any promises, but lacking any evidence to the contrary, it sure looks like they held the spot for him believing it was pro-ball or SJU and then LJ threw them a curveball.
You can draw whatever conclusions you want. You can be emotional. Please tell me why they were pursuing players all spring? It wasn't just Ray.[/quote]
That is not the issue.
LJ enters transfer portal 4/26 = highly disappointing but we move on.
LJ enters transfer portal 5/26 = the point[/quote]
There is a flip side to this, what if SJU was in tight with a 5 star stud or an elite grad transfer with quite frankly better numbers than LJ? In other words let's not kid ourselves and act like SJU's other options were significantly better if better at all than LJ coming back. If they were he might have been in the portal earlier. And none of us would have any problems with that including me. This is not to justify him waiting this long to decide, just a contrarian point.[/quote]
So you're arguing that it's fine that he did this because St Johns wouldn't have held the ship for him to test the draft waters if say Michael Jordan was available and wanted to come here as a 1st year player? Fine. You win that fantasy.
The reality is that St John's had no obligation to hold the ship for him once he went into the draft.
The reality is that they did so despite him going into the draft and transfer portal last year also.
The reality is that they did this for a kid they inherited, and didn't recruit for this system.
The reality is that they passed on a local kid who would have been a nice fit for a 1 year grad transfer in order to do right by LJ.
The reality is that LJ fucked them for doing right by him.
The reality is that LJ gets no credit whatsoever for doing what he's perfectly entitled to do when by doing so he fucks over people who were bending over backwards to do right by him.
The reality is that LJ handled this very badly, and there's a price to be paid to ones image/reputation when you act poorly.[/quote]
I have no idea idea what you are talking about but you clearly did not understand my post. Is this supposed to be an attack on what I wrote because it if is your did a lousy job.
And trust me I would be careful with making pronouncements like "SJU held onto his scholarship for him..." You have no idea what SJU was doing.[/quote]
Why would that be an attack? You made a contrarian point, which I conceded. Contrary to your contrarian point, public perception is the reality of how this played out. I have no inside info. Never have and never claimed to have. You've always been a fairly reliable source of information from the program, but that was before CMA and his staff. Perhaps that's still the case, but it seems that this staff in particular runs a tight ship on leaking information so then again, maybe it's not still the case.
Feel free to color in the details on what they did and didn't do with the ship for LJ when he went pro because without additional information, it sure seems that they passed on Salnave to hold the spot for LJ. That doesn't mean that LJ made any promises, but lacking any evidence to the contrary, it sure looks like they held the spot for him believing it was pro-ball or SJU and then LJ threw them a curveball.
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[quote="NCJohnnie" post=388154]The idea that we won't miss a beat losing our leading scorer and a sure pre-season All Big East selection is more than a stretch. Having said that, I do agree that we can still be a solid BE team next year if Cole and Anderson adjust to Div 1 play pretty quickly.[/quote]
Moore?
Moore?
Mullins Revenge
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[quote="NCJohnnie" post=388154]The idea that we won't miss a beat losing our leading scorer and a sure pre-season All Big East selection is more than a stretch. Having said that, I do agree that we can still be a solid BE team next year if Cole and Anderson adjust to Div 1 play pretty quickly.[/quote]
It would be a stretch but we already did it last year when heron went down. lf you compare last years roster w/ LJ to this years roster w/o LJ, there is more talent right now w/o him then last year.
So ask yourself, would you rather take last years roster heading into the BET or the way the roster is constructed right now w/o lj?
Thats an easy one for me. The roster right now by a mile.
It would be a stretch but we already did it last year when heron went down. lf you compare last years roster w/ LJ to this years roster w/o LJ, there is more talent right now w/o him then last year.
So ask yourself, would you rather take last years roster heading into the BET or the way the roster is constructed right now w/o lj?
Thats an easy one for me. The roster right now by a mile.
Moose
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[quote="NCJohnnie" post=388154]The idea that we won't miss a beat losing our leading scorer and a sure pre-season All Big East selection is more than a stretch. Having said that, I do agree that we can still be a solid BE team next year if Cole and Anderson adjust to Div 1 play pretty quickly.[/quote]
What do you mean? Didn't you see us roll thru the BE last year? Oh wait again people are remembering 3.5 games not 3 months worth of play. They are extrapolating 2 game stretches for some players and assuming that is the normal going forward. I can't help but laugh.
What do you mean? Didn't you see us roll thru the BE last year? Oh wait again people are remembering 3.5 games not 3 months worth of play. They are extrapolating 2 game stretches for some players and assuming that is the normal going forward. I can't help but laugh.
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=388154]The idea that we won't miss a beat losing our leading scorer and a sure pre-season All Big East selection is more than a stretch. Having said that, I do agree that we can still be a solid BE team next year if Cole and Anderson adjust to Div 1 play pretty quickly.[/quote]
I'm not sure about everyone else, but I'm not suggesting we won't skip a beat, just that it's not a crippling defection.
I like LJ as a player. He's fun to watch and I'd rather have him here this year than not, but he's far from irreplaceable.
I'm not sure about everyone else, but I'm not suggesting we won't skip a beat, just that it's not a crippling defection.
I like LJ as a player. He's fun to watch and I'd rather have him here this year than not, but he's far from irreplaceable.
[quote="Paultzman" post=388156][quote="NCJohnnie" post=388154]The idea that we won't miss a beat losing our leading scorer and a sure pre-season All Big East selection is more than a stretch. Having said that, I do agree that we can still be a solid BE team next year if Cole and Anderson adjust to Div 1 play pretty quickly.[/quote]
Moore?[/quote]
I like Moore a lot. I’m curious on how the staff will use him. LJ leaving certainly will help his minutes and I think he can get minutes at the 3-5 spots, although more likely the 4-5. I don’t know how physically ready he can enter the season though at this point unless he starts cycling on steroids...lol. It may limit what he can do at the 5.
Moore?[/quote]
I like Moore a lot. I’m curious on how the staff will use him. LJ leaving certainly will help his minutes and I think he can get minutes at the 3-5 spots, although more likely the 4-5. I don’t know how physically ready he can enter the season though at this point unless he starts cycling on steroids...lol. It may limit what he can do at the 5.
Moose
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Zach is still plugged in. While not as much since the Cob has left but still plugged in.
Salnave was ready to come and the staff was looking for/expecting something to open. Everyone assumed it was LJ or McGriff, pull up the threads from a few weeks ago. Then it was said that nobody was transferring and expectation was that LJ was coming back. So SJU out of Salnave sweepstakes and then he commits within a week. If he went pro- God Bless, good luck. To enter the portal for the 2nd year in a row. After 2 months of the staff thinking they were competing with pro aspirations. Sorry but LJ is in Nuri Lindsay territory to me now.
I don't know how else to spell it out. Pretty clear how it looks to all involved.
Salnave was ready to come and the staff was looking for/expecting something to open. Everyone assumed it was LJ or McGriff, pull up the threads from a few weeks ago. Then it was said that nobody was transferring and expectation was that LJ was coming back. So SJU out of Salnave sweepstakes and then he commits within a week. If he went pro- God Bless, good luck. To enter the portal for the 2nd year in a row. After 2 months of the staff thinking they were competing with pro aspirations. Sorry but LJ is in Nuri Lindsay territory to me now.
I don't know how else to spell it out. Pretty clear how it looks to all involved.
Mullins Revenge
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[quote="Moose" post=388158][quote="NCJohnnie" post=388154]The idea that we won't miss a beat losing our leading scorer and a sure pre-season All Big East selection is more than a stretch. Having said that, I do agree that we can still be a solid BE team next year if Cole and Anderson adjust to Div 1 play pretty quickly.[/quote]
What do you mean? Didn't you see us roll thru the BE last year? Oh wait again people are remembering 3.5 games not 3 months worth of play. They are extrapolating 2 game stretches for some players and assuming that is the normal going forward. I can't help but laugh.[/quote]
Or we can take a team from Dec and January and just accept that that is the team and there is no way you can improve over the course of a season.
What do you mean? Didn't you see us roll thru the BE last year? Oh wait again people are remembering 3.5 games not 3 months worth of play. They are extrapolating 2 game stretches for some players and assuming that is the normal going forward. I can't help but laugh.[/quote]
Or we can take a team from Dec and January and just accept that that is the team and there is no way you can improve over the course of a season.
Moose
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[quote="Duke of Earlington" post=388165][quote="Moose" post=388158][quote="NCJohnnie" post=388154]The idea that we won't miss a beat losing our leading scorer and a sure pre-season All Big East selection is more than a stretch. Having said that, I do agree that we can still be a solid BE team next year if Cole and Anderson adjust to Div 1 play pretty quickly.[/quote]
What do you mean? Didn't you see us roll thru the BE last year? Oh wait again people are remembering 3.5 games not 3 months worth of play. They are extrapolating 2 game stretches for some players and assuming that is the normal going forward. I can't help but laugh.[/quote]
Or we can take a team from Dec and January and just accept that that is the team and there is no way you can improve over the course of a season.[/quote]
You can sure thing. But you're speaking in certainties. And while you or me have no clue on the certainty- any realistic person would say law of averages aka bulk of the play is what you will get. Marcellus Earlington and Greg Williams I will pretty surely say will not be end of year leading scorers on SJU the rest of their careers. LJ WAS that as much as he had his issues. No knock on them either. They are valuable role players within the structure of a team.
But just because Marcellus had a 4 game stretch of 7-12 from 3 followed by 6 games without a 3 oh combined with the fact he had made 2 3's all of the season prior to those 4 games I think that shows it was a hot streak and he's not a gunner. Same goes for Greg. So if you put the you know what down as say they shoot 33-35% from 3 then great. (Yes I know Greg finished at 34%)
What do you mean? Didn't you see us roll thru the BE last year? Oh wait again people are remembering 3.5 games not 3 months worth of play. They are extrapolating 2 game stretches for some players and assuming that is the normal going forward. I can't help but laugh.[/quote]
Or we can take a team from Dec and January and just accept that that is the team and there is no way you can improve over the course of a season.[/quote]
You can sure thing. But you're speaking in certainties. And while you or me have no clue on the certainty- any realistic person would say law of averages aka bulk of the play is what you will get. Marcellus Earlington and Greg Williams I will pretty surely say will not be end of year leading scorers on SJU the rest of their careers. LJ WAS that as much as he had his issues. No knock on them either. They are valuable role players within the structure of a team.
But just because Marcellus had a 4 game stretch of 7-12 from 3 followed by 6 games without a 3 oh combined with the fact he had made 2 3's all of the season prior to those 4 games I think that shows it was a hot streak and he's not a gunner. Same goes for Greg. So if you put the you know what down as say they shoot 33-35% from 3 then great. (Yes I know Greg finished at 34%)
[quote="MCNPA" post=388162]
I like Moore a lot. I’m curious on how the staff will use him. LJ leaving certainly will help his minutes and I think he can get minutes at the 3-5 spots, although more likely the 4-5. I don’t know how physically ready he can enter the season though at this point unless he starts cycling on steroids...lol. It may limit what he can do at the 5.[/quote]
To me Moore looks like the upside Tariq Owens wanted to have. TO turned into a very solid player but he came in really spindly, uncoordinated and could not shoot. Moore looks like he has the coordination and shooting handled. If he is as tough as TO (not saying physical) and dedicated he could have a big future especially if he matures physically. He's a mismatch for sure but that goes both ways.
I like Moore a lot. I’m curious on how the staff will use him. LJ leaving certainly will help his minutes and I think he can get minutes at the 3-5 spots, although more likely the 4-5. I don’t know how physically ready he can enter the season though at this point unless he starts cycling on steroids...lol. It may limit what he can do at the 5.[/quote]
To me Moore looks like the upside Tariq Owens wanted to have. TO turned into a very solid player but he came in really spindly, uncoordinated and could not shoot. Moore looks like he has the coordination and shooting handled. If he is as tough as TO (not saying physical) and dedicated he could have a big future especially if he matures physically. He's a mismatch for sure but that goes both ways.
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[quote="Paul Massell" post=388170][quote="MCNPA" post=388162]
I like Moore a lot. I’m curious on how the staff will use him. LJ leaving certainly will help his minutes and I think he can get minutes at the 3-5 spots, although more likely the 4-5. I don’t know how physically ready he can enter the season though at this point unless he starts cycling on steroids...lol. It may limit what he can do at the 5.[/quote]
To me Moore looks like the upside Tariq Owens wanted to have. TO turned into a very solid player but he came in really spindly, uncoordinated and could not shoot. Moore looks like he has the coordination and shooting handled. If he is as tough as TO (not saying physical) and dedicated he could have a big future especially if he matures physically. He's a mismatch for sure but that goes both ways.[/quote]
Agree.. I like the tools that Moore has with his length and his shooting touch seems underrated. Have a kid his size that can nail free throws is also a huge benefit. I think cma’s conditioning regimen will help with his lateral movement but may hinder his weight gain. I just never saw him as a physical 5 anyway? More of a stretch 4. Moving forward I think Moore is the guy id rather see shooting corner jumpers rather than Earlington who I’d like to see become even more of a banger and inside guy.
I still hope staff uses the 13th ship for a grad player, even if it’s on a big center or another scorer. Still feel we have needs and if injuries happen, take a flier on somebody.
I like Moore a lot. I’m curious on how the staff will use him. LJ leaving certainly will help his minutes and I think he can get minutes at the 3-5 spots, although more likely the 4-5. I don’t know how physically ready he can enter the season though at this point unless he starts cycling on steroids...lol. It may limit what he can do at the 5.[/quote]
To me Moore looks like the upside Tariq Owens wanted to have. TO turned into a very solid player but he came in really spindly, uncoordinated and could not shoot. Moore looks like he has the coordination and shooting handled. If he is as tough as TO (not saying physical) and dedicated he could have a big future especially if he matures physically. He's a mismatch for sure but that goes both ways.[/quote]
Agree.. I like the tools that Moore has with his length and his shooting touch seems underrated. Have a kid his size that can nail free throws is also a huge benefit. I think cma’s conditioning regimen will help with his lateral movement but may hinder his weight gain. I just never saw him as a physical 5 anyway? More of a stretch 4. Moving forward I think Moore is the guy id rather see shooting corner jumpers rather than Earlington who I’d like to see become even more of a banger and inside guy.
I still hope staff uses the 13th ship for a grad player, even if it’s on a big center or another scorer. Still feel we have needs and if injuries happen, take a flier on somebody.
I also like Moore but think he is going to be one of those JUCOs who will need close to a year to adjust to DIV 1 basketball. Tariq was very tough (if not strong) and did play in the SEC as a frosh albeit limited PT.
Moore will get pushed around in the BE at least at first. Hope I'm wrong would love him to be a big time contributor next year.
Moore will get pushed around in the BE at least at first. Hope I'm wrong would love him to be a big time contributor next year.
[quote="NCJohnnie" post=388174]I also like Moore but think he is going to be one of those JUCOs who will need close to a year to adjust to DIV 1 basketball. Tariq was very tough (if not strong) and did play in the SEC as a frosh albeit limited PT.
Moore will get pushed around in the BE at least at first. Hope I'm wrong would love him to be a big time contributor next year.[/quote]
I will say though that CMA more than most coaches, gets his guys physically ready to run and play and in great physical shape even if not going to pack on pounds for him. Our guys train harder than most teams which is part of the reason CMA has been so successful.
Moore will get pushed around in the BE at least at first. Hope I'm wrong would love him to be a big time contributor next year.[/quote]
I will say though that CMA more than most coaches, gets his guys physically ready to run and play and in great physical shape even if not going to pack on pounds for him. Our guys train harder than most teams which is part of the reason CMA has been so successful.