LIU Brooklyn, Sun. Dec. 11, 12 Noon, FS1/970AM

You can put this one on me. Should have known better but alas I push my impeccable in house record to a blistering 1 and 10
 
We were picked 9th pre season for a reason. I'll wait till next year with Clark Simon and brown (hopefully) coming in with ponds and lovette with a season under belt zero make judgement. I do feel the need for a seasoned bench coach is needed. Is bobby cremins bored?
 
The template today for 72's post game handshake comment. :)
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It's become routine for Mullin (along with the constant chirping to refs). He must have picked it up watching Boeheim, JT3 et al.

If nothing else, I guess it means he hates losing
 
Im sure the "who transfers Next" thread is coming next after this loss? I think someone already mentioned it another thread/topic. Can we wait till march for that speculation??
 
just watched the game. Malik Ellison is garbage. Why does he get so much PT?

Who do you want to play instead? That new kid on the sideline that looked about 5'6 and no one on the board could even name? Maybe it was James Ellsworth, but I can't swear to it. No Lovett means it's Ponds, Mussini and Ellison. That's it.
 
just watched the game. Malik Ellison is garbage. Why does he get so much PT?

Who do you want to play instead? That new kid on the sideline that looked about 5'6 and no one on the board could even name? Maybe it was James Ellsworth, but I can't swear to it. No Lovett means it's Ponds, Mussini and Ellison. That's it.

Here's a wild and novel idea--how about telling Sima "you are here on a college basketball scholarship. The semester is not over and I expect you to practice and play". After your last exsm, I will wish you luck and help you pack your bags"
When I heard he was cheering his friends on I wanted to smack both him and Mullin upside the head with an aluminum bat. Sorry for the Brooklyn side of me taking over in my pissed mood.
Good night to all. :sick:
 
just watched the game. Malik Ellison is garbage. Why does he get so much PT?

Who do you want to play instead? That new kid on the sideline that looked about 5'6 and no one on the board could even name? Maybe it was James Ellsworth, but I can't swear to it. No Lovett means it's Ponds, Mussini and Ellison. That's it.

Mussini did a credible job last year and is a better option than Elllison. By no means a real
answer but better than Ellison, who's a train wreck IMO, especially with the game on the line where he plays like he thinks he is Michael Jordan.
 
just watched the game. Malik Ellison is garbage. Why does he get so much PT?

Who do you want to play instead? That new kid on the sideline that looked about 5'6 and no one on the board could even name? Maybe it was James Ellsworth, but I can't swear to it. No Lovett means it's Ponds, Mussini and Ellison. That's it.

Mussini did a credible job last year and is a better option than Elllison. By no means a real
answer but better than Ellison, who's a train wreck IMO, especially with the game on the line where he plays like he thinks he is Michael Jordan.

Agree with you on both Mussini and Ellison. At least Mussini knows his limitations, physically and skill wise, and tries to let the game come to him. On occasion he'll force something, but not to often. He also has very good instincts. Ellison, as you say, thinks he's Michael Jordan. Or as my buddy Dave said to me at the CSN game, "he plays like he thinks he's The Man". He doesn't understand that he has both physical and skill limitations. He has terrible instincts and judgment. What he does have is size. I know CM is playing him at point in an effort to keep Ponds scoring at the 2 spot, but it's a failed experiment. I'd rather he stick Ponds or Mussini there while LoVett is out. In a normal world, both Mussini and Ellison would be roll players. So too would be everyone else on our team except for Ponds and Lovett, and the few guys who wouldn't see the light of day. In our world, these otherwise roll players are relied upon heavily, and we're seeing the results of that.
 
This team will not progress until coach Mullin reduces Ellison's opportunities to make mistakes at critical times of a game. The end of this game should have had Ponds, Mussini, Ahmed, Wiiliams and Yawke playing in crunch time. I believe we would have won with that lineup. Also as I have stated before Freudenberg has much more upside than Ellison. Has Ellison improved from last year? Yes, but that was a low bar. He is still a sub-par player.
 
just watched the game. Malik Ellison is garbage. Why does he get so much PT?

Who do you want to play instead? That new kid on the sideline that looked about 5'6 and no one on the board could even name? Maybe it was James Ellsworth, but I can't swear to it. No Lovett means it's Ponds, Mussini and Ellison. That's it.

Mussini did a credible job last year and is a better option than Elllison. By no means a real
answer but better than Ellison, who's a train wreck IMO, especially with the game on the line where he plays like he thinks he is Michael Jordan.

Agree with you on both Mussini and Ellison. At least Mussini knows his limitations, physically and skill wise, and tries to let the game come to him. On occasion he'll force something, but not to often. He also has very good instincts. Ellison, as you say, thinks he's Michael Jordan. Or as my buddy Dave said to me at the CSN game, "he plays like he thinks he's The Man". He doesn't understand that he has both physical and skill limitations. He has terrible instincts and judgment. What he does have is size. I know CM is playing him at point in an effort to keep Ponds scoring at the 2 spot, but it's a failed experiment. I'd rather he stick Ponds or Mussini there while LoVett is out. In a normal world, both Mussini and Ellison would be roll players. So too would be everyone else on our team except for Ponds and Lovett, and the few guys who wouldn't see the light of day. In our world, these otherwise roll players are relied upon heavily, and we're seeing the results of that.

Ellison's stat line was 4 for 6 from the field, 0 for 3 from the line, 5 assists 2 boards and 2 turnovers. With 2 minutes to go in the game, he had played 27 minutes and had no turnovers. He actually played one of his better games. Problem is that his decision making is still an issue. The ball shouldn't have been in his hands at that time. Mussini had 2 turnovers in the same minutes. Ellison loses the ball because of bad decisions, Mussini because of bad athleticism. I don't remember if Mussini was even in the game in the last few minutes.
 
Coulda used Sima.



Sima who? Williams deserved the game ball had they won. Hook shots, rebounds and boxing out - what a performance. And this kid couldn't get into any of our previous games. Now let's see if our struggling coach plays him before Yakwe. Don't count on it.

Lovett would have been a big help against LIU. The big takeaway should be Williams. Not having Sima or Amar gave Williams this opportunity to show what he can bring to the table. I don't see this as a bad loss. Ponds probably hits that same shot 8 out of 10 times, and the NY Post headline would say "gutsy performance." if it goes in.

We will live and die on the three point line, and we didn't have it on Sunday. Even with that, we had the chance to win with our #1 option getting an open look. If that shot goes down, would there still be all of these brutal comments? The big picture remains very good in my view.
 
Nobody shows any passion, fire or leadership out there. Doesn't mean they're not trying but I wish one of the guys showed some of that like Mvouika or Johnson last year.
 
Here's a telling statistical difference in games we have won & lost:
In games we have lost we have : 69 assists (11.5 pg) 78 turnover (13 pg)
In games we have won : 97 assists (19.4) 73 turnovers (14.6 pg.)

Until they share the Rock Game in a game out & learn how to take care of it. We will continue to lose.

Confident the turnover rate will decrease once LoVett returns.



Does anyone know when Lovett returns?
 
Here's a telling statistical difference in games we have won & lost:
In games we have lost we have : 69 assists (11.5 pg) 78 turnover (13 pg)
In games we have won : 97 assists (19.4) 73 turnovers (14.6 pg.)

Until they share the Rock Game in a game out & learn how to take care of it. We will continue to lose.

Confident the turnover rate will decrease once LoVett returns.



Does anyone know when Lovett returns?

Likely PSU game from what I hear.
 
We are going to lose a lot of games with both Ponds and Lovett this year. Without one of them, forget it. Great that we won two without Lovett and it should have been a 3rd yesterday, but without one of these guys the margin for error is incredibly thin and it was probably only a matter of time until there was another letdown like this.

Unfortunate as this is the last game on the schedule that had embarrassment potential just in losing alone, not losing + margin.

I'm hoping this continues to just be precaution with Marcus and that it isn't more serious than initially thought or let on.
 
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