Let's Mend the Wounds

Appreciate Repole stepping up and airing legitimate issues. He also obviously has value at SJU. Wealthy guys always want a seat at the table if you vie for their $$. I certainly also realize there are far bigger donors than MR.

The exchange with phony Francesa was great radio, provided a vehicle to air issues long plaguing us and may have had a little fiction in there. I did find Repole’s rip of the BOT to be too much of a broad brush approach, knowing there are a number of successful, competent members dedicated to SJU. His offer to pay Bobby’s salary if he resigned by today was a bit cocky and unnecessary imo.

All in all it was a scorched earth approach borne out of some legitimate frustration and probably personal issues. Did it move the needle short term in terms of Cragg being able to select Mike Anderson? Perhaps. Did it cause long term damage? We’ll see. Winning games, selling tickets and gaining the media spotlight tends to cure ills. Hopefully we will see that.

Man am I happy the stench of this past week is evaporating with this hire. Not many would have at this point. Hopefully this translates to success on the court.
 
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To be fair to Beast, he went a little scorched earth on Oliva so just because he doesn't like what Repole did doesn't mean that he is some kind of shill. I found the Repole thing refreshing especially after the bizarre offer to Moser. Also from my perspective having worked with non-profits and with and for "the Church" it would be a big mistake for St. John's to black list Repole. It would only be the choice of poor stewards in a toxic environment of politics and empires, to do so.
 
[quote="Chris7" post=344807][quote="Beast of the East" post=344803][quote="ErickTheRed" post=344791]I'm sure Mike will lose sleep and have a terrible Easter knowing that some clown on this site doesn't care for him.[/quote]

No but he should lose sleep now that the university that he professed his love for, for the meetings with Mullin and Cragg that transpired solely because of this wealth, and every door to the university will be slammed in his face because he torched the school. When he regains his composure he will know that he forever lost any opportunity to influence what goes on at St. John's merely by waving his checkbook as a carrot.

Trust me. Whatever happened yesterday with the new hire, happened in spite of Repole, not because of him.[/quote]

And how exactly are all the other board members on the board? It's in fact because they too waive their checkbook as a carrot.

It seems as if you are connected to Oliva, and your feelings are hurt. Sucks, but Oliva has been here for over 20 years and are program is still in the hole. Time to move on. Thankfully Repole had the balls to speak up publicly on a huge platform and exposure the fraud and deceit that has tainted this school behind closed doors for years. The message was received by many. They cannot continue to operate as mom and pop any more.[/quote]

You're pretty funny. I've posted some scathing stuff about the too broad responsibilities that Oliva has, and have also posted that I've never met him.

There's a big difference between writing a big check, serving the university in a number of capacities, and moving up to a board position of high responsibility, and what Repole has done. Yes, he had made donations, but also suggested he would make larger ones if given responsibilities to make decisions. Read between the lines - he said he offered to pay $10 million towards renovating CA. Villanova has a donor, who didn't make an offer, he ponied up $22 million towards the renovation, and they put his name on the building. I guarantee you the guy didn't say "If I make the donation will you put my name on the building", because things just don't work that way at universities.

The board is comprised of both donors, Vincentians, and other leaders. What large donors bring to the board is their experience as executives of various market sectors, and know how to make businesses successful. Universities are businesses and many of these people have put in 10-15 years of service to the university BEFORE being named to the BOT. All are extremely bright guys who have learned alot about education if that wasn't their field.

I take great exception, however to BOT members being involved in the selection of a coach. I think it's out of their wheelhouse, and their expertise in this process should be limited to approving the capital expense for the hire at the university president's request, and rubber stamping what a competent AD who runs the process selects.

I'm kind of done with this. You guys can believe whatever you want about the value of the rant of a disgruntled alum. HIs bridge is burned. We will never see the $10 million self serving claim he made to Francesa, nor will we ever see the pledge of a scholarship that Francesa made.
 
[quote="Paul Massell" post=344812]To be fair to Beast, he went a little scorched earth on Oliva so just because he doesn't like what Repole did doesn't mean that he is some kind of shill. I found the Repole thing refreshing especially after the bizarre offer to Moser. Also from my perspective having worked with non-profits and with and for "the Church" it would be a big mistake for St. John's to black list Repole. It would only be the choice of poor stewards in a toxic environment of politics and empires, to do so.[/quote]

Thanks for the defense. Because it's good Friday and a good day for reflection, there was always a discussion of whether Judas' betrayal or Peter's denial was a worse sin. In bible study it was generally concluded that both were serious, but that Peter was able to ask for forgiveness, while Judas' could not face what he had done, leading to his suicide.

If Repole wants any form of redemption in terms of his status at the university, it is more up to him than the university.
 
[quote="Beast of the East" post=344815][quote="Paul Massell" post=344812]To be fair to Beast, he went a little scorched earth on Oliva so just because he doesn't like what Repole did doesn't mean that he is some kind of shill. I found the Repole thing refreshing especially after the bizarre offer to Moser. Also from my perspective having worked with non-profits and with and for "the Church" it would be a big mistake for St. John's to black list Repole. It would only be the choice of poor stewards in a toxic environment of politics and empires, to do so.[/quote]

Thanks for the defense. Because it's good Friday and a good day for reflection, there was always a discussion of whether Judas' betrayal or Peter's denial was a worse sin. In bible study it was generally concluded that both were serious, but that Peter was able to ask for forgiveness, while Judas' could not face what he had done, leading to his suicide.

If Repole wants any form of redemption in terms of his status at the university, it is more up to him than the university.[/quote]

I disagree. He owes University nothing. He's a passionate constituent with strong opinions. Pretty much ideal regardless of whether you agree with his opinions.
 
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This is how The Athletic Daily sums it up today
Article:Inept Coaching Searches Show UCLA and ST JOHN’S Just Don’t Get It
Fine daily magazine..worth checking out.

Frustrated, embarrassed and disgusted, Mike Repole took to the New York airwaves on Wednesday and threw a vat of ice cold Vitamin Water on his alma mater. The sports drink founder and horse racing aficionado decided St. John’s had reached peak ineptitude, having been summarily rejected by Bobby Hurley, Porter Moser, Ryan Odom, Tim Cluess and the dude playing pickup at Rucker Park, so he let loose on WFAN. He called the place toxic and said it had leaped mere New York laughingstock status and achieved national embarrassment level. His points seemed valid.

Meanwhile over on the Left Coast, UCLA raised a glass in appreciation of the attention-sucking, coach-bumbling Red Storm administration. The Bruins, having fired Steve Alford all the way back in December, entered the hiring market with all of the organization of decapitated poultry. They low-balled John Calipari into a lifetime contract at Kentucky and essentially revealed they were too cheap to buy out Jamie Dixon and Rick Barnes. Eventually they landed on Mick Cronin, a fine coach who would have been available on the first phone call and in fact became the candidate in waiting.

That the two schools on the two coasts have engineered the worst run coaching searches of the offseason is really no surprise. Both suffer from the same affliction: an inflated sense of self worth. Perched in their ivory towers and kneeling to their own altars, they call out to the little people, We are St. John’s. We are UCLA. Come ye, and worship before us, O lucky coaches and recruits. To which basketball people reply, “Dude, it’s 2019.’’ The last time St. John’s was relevant, Chris Mullin, the recently resigned 55-year-old head coach, was a short-short wearing college kid. UCLA enjoyed a good run under Ben Howland — more than a decade ago — and although those in Westwood would be loathe to admit it, the John Wooden years are little more than dusty artifacts from the history books. High schoolers don’t care where you’ve been; they want to know where you’re going. For too long, St. John’s and UCLA have been spinning on a hamster wheel.

Yet both schools refuse to get over themselves, convinced somehow that they needn’t offer anything more than the privilege of wearing their gear to lure coaches and players to their campuses. We have built it; you should come. That’s simply not how the basketball world runs anymore, not for teenagers and, as both are finding out, not for adults. Coaches have gotten as wise to the game as the kids they recruit, well aware that they create the value of the job and not the other way around. Is Villanova a great job, or is Jay Wright a great coach? Was Texas Tech a Final Four waiting to happen, or did Chris Beard get the Red Raiders there? Was Chris Holtmann lucky to get a chance to coach Ohio State, or were the Buckeyes fortunate to entice him away from Butler? The answer to each is obvious.

Where once people would have crawled to St. John’s or UCLA, college basketball is no longer the world of the landed gentry, with the same families feasting at the banquets while the little people scurry about. Anyone can be a player, with the right coach and the right commitment from the university, and if these searches have proven anything, it is that these two schools simply don’t get it. They have allowed their pasts to become obstacles rather than building blocks, clinging to ideals that simply no longer hold true while refusing to offer anything more.

The West Coast has been a basketball wasteland for years, with Arizona’s 1997 championship the last title the western U.S. can claim. Sidetracked by any number of distractions, fans hardly flock through the Pauley Pavilion turnstiles — even when the Bruins were competitive — and the school’s skinflint budgeting (the Bruins didn’t fly charter until this year) did little to prove it was anything more than a has-been masquerading as blue blood. UCLA couldn’t work around Dixon’s $8 million buyout, reportedly trying to negotiate the number down to $1 million, and Barnes this week admitted that if the folks in Westwood could have covered his deal, he’d be the UCLA coach right now. There is a place, certainly, for fiscal prudence. It is not, however, typically in college coaching searches at a school that considers itself among the game’s biggest and best and is, at least according to Forbes, still the 11th most valuable commodity in college hoops. To quote a wise man, “Show me the money.’’

St. John’s, in the meantime, has followed one bad hire with the next, experiencing all of eight NCAA Tournament berths since Lou Carnesecca hung up his sweater in 1992. The school thought hiring Mullin would bring back the good times, failing to recognize that coaching experience works better than pixie dust. The job is no picnic, not with the rise of Villanova down the road and with a fertile recruiting area all but plucked dry by rivals. But the university still has plenty of fans desperate to rally around the Red Storm if the team would just give them something worth celebrating and a coach who knew what he was doing.

Instead, the school couldn’t lure New Jersey native Hurley back home — Repole insists it could have with a better offer — and dithered with Cluess long enough that the Iona coach removed himself from consideration. Moser would have received a substantial raise from his Loyola-Chicago salary, but he decided to put a premium on the price of happy, and Odom, the coach at UMBC, said no too. Frank Haith, also rumored to be in the mix, reportedly is staying at Tulsa. Mike Anderson, formerly of Arkansas, Yale’s James Jones and Oklahoma State’s Mike Boynton are now on the clock, according to various reports.

There is a word to describe all of this: (rhymes with pit) show.

None of this is to say that both schools can’t stumble their way into good decisions. Cronin might not scream sexy hire, but he will win games at UCLA, and in the Pac-12 that immediately makes you competitive. If St. John’s actually hires someone who knows how to use a wipeboard and diagram a play or two instead of a graduate figurehead, it might accidentally right its ship as well.

But going forward both schools would be wise to make sure that the mirrors they’re looking into aren’t from the funhouse and understand what they are — and more, what they aren’t. Otherwise, they’re destined to the land of faded glory, clinging to the past while the game marches forward without them.

(Photo of Chris Mullin: Nicole Sweet/USA Today Sports)
 
It appears regretfully there are still enough of you out there who don't realize how close we came to having Paul Hewitt or Joe Jones as our coach. And that's the work of the two stooges you continue to praise.
 
That's what I've always believed-basically the coach is the program. Bama football lost it's way with 15 years of mediocrity with numerous coaches including the last one before Saban being former QB alum Mike Shula. When they fired Shula his dad the legendary Mike Shula said they made a huge mistake. Hired Saban by second year reached number one, third year first of 5 NCs under Saban. St. John's can be real good again as success on the court should lead to improvements in peripheral areas such as facilities, scheduling, attendance, etc. which what our AD Cragg intends to work on.
 
[quote="Paultzman" post=344824]Will there be a third “Let’s Mend the Wounds” thread?[/quote]

It will be titled: "Let's Mend the Fences." I going for something original.
 
The Repole interview was good for this program and you can’t convince me differently.

I understand the concerns and that he went over the top a little bit but it’s time somebody starts demanding this program run like they are still a big east program and not a MAAC one. If our billionaire alum had to be the one to do that so be it. he had the platform and used it.

As MJDinkins says often on this board, too many people are just becoming content with what St. John’s basketball has become the last 20 years. Accepting mediocrity is a bad road to go down. I mean come on guys most of us root for the jets, Knicks, mets... if SJU has a chance to not be in the gutter let’s strive for that. We all need a win. Anderson getting hired was a WIN in my opinion, and I don’t know if it happens without THE RANT
 
Well I for one am very happy with this hire. And I really like this board.

So for my part, I apologize to all the Cluess supporters for my anti-Cluess rants.

Hopefully, we are all okay with this hire get a few wins and have a few laughs instead of rants.
 
[quote="Jack Williams" post=344907]Anderson getting hired was a WIN in my opinion, and I don’t know if it happens without THE RANT[/quote]

One of our very, own fans text a similar message to me last night.
 
Fate or Divine Providence... moves in strange ways...it’s Good Friday and a good friday ..dark days turn into light...
Mike Cragg came here to succeed.
Mike Anderson came here to win.
I choose to trust them.
In a strange way, we might actually be as good next year as we were this year. I could not have anticipated a better turn of events in a few short days.
Happy Holidays to those of any faith :)
 
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