Legal Battle Over Big East Name / N.Y. Post

The Catholic 7 should get the Big East name and a good split of all the exit fees from the teams that destroyed this conference. UConn and Cincy both helped in the downfall of the league and should not benefit.
 
We can't take everything.

1. When we leave and how much.
2. The name
3. MSG

Three things on the table. We cannot win them all. So we need to think about what we REALLY need. To me its 1 and 3. I don't care about the name. Let them keep the name. Let it lower our exit fee and keep them away from MSG (least worry since I think MSG wants us more than them)
 
We can't take everything.

1. When we leave and how much.
2. The name
3. MSG

Three things on the table. We cannot win them all. So we need to think about what we REALLY need. To me its 1 and 3. I don't care about the name. Let them keep the name. Let it lower our exit fee and keep them away from MSG (least worry since I think MSG wants us more than them)
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We have to have MSG and I'd prefer to keep the name. If we threaten to stay for two more years, we may actually get all three (they don't want us for two more years, so they would potentially give in and let us go early without penalty).
 
We can't take everything.

1. When we leave and how much.
2. The name
3. MSG

Three things on the table. We cannot win them all. So we need to think about what we REALLY need. To me its 1 and 3. I don't care about the name. Let them keep the name. Let it lower our exit fee and keep them away from MSG (least worry since I think MSG wants us more than them)
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the Name was built by the catholic BB schools screw them take everything u can " to the victors go the spoils" they started this by bending over to fix a weak football conf & the main fb schools jumped ship for $
The BE was the 1st conf to have 3 schools in final4 St.J's,Gt & Nova winning it all Mullin,Ewing,Pickney,Rollie,Louie&johnT that made the brand not scuse OR RUTG winning a pinstripe bowl thats the real history behind the name
 
We can't take everything.

1. When we leave and how much.
2. The name
3. MSG

Three things on the table. We cannot win them all. So we need to think about what we REALLY need. To me its 1 and 3. I don't care about the name. Let them keep the name. Let it lower our exit fee and keep them away from MSG (least worry since I think MSG wants us more than them)
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We have to have MSG and I'd prefer to keep the name. If we threaten to stay for two more years, we may actually get all three (they don't want us for two more years, so they would potentially give in and let us go early without penalty).
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They have no problem keeping us around. We are the anxious ones. Granted they will also love us to leave early but it will cost. Just like the name will cost. Have weigh that and ask is it worth it?
 
The Catholic 7 should get the Big East name and a good split of all the exit fees from the teams that destroyed this conference. UConn and Cincy both helped in the downfall of the league and should not benefit.
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How did UCONN and Cincy add to the downfall. They reacted to the demise from the thieving ACC and the colaborators Pitt and Cuse. Once the league splintered they did what they could to protect themselves. They deserve their share as they are NOT leaving the Big East. At least not yet.
 
The Catholic 7 should get the Big East name and a good split of all the exit fees from the teams that destroyed this conference. UConn and Cincy both helped in the downfall of the league and should not benefit.
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How did UCONN and Cincy add to the downfall. They reacted to the demise from the thieving ACC and the colaborators Pitt and Cuse. Once the league splintered they did what they could to protect themselves. They deserve their share as they are NOT leaving the Big East. At least not yet.
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Yukon is still in the Big East because nobody wanted them. They have been begging for an ACC invite.
 
The Catholic 7 should get the Big East name and a good split of all the exit fees from the teams that destroyed this conference. UConn and Cincy both helped in the downfall of the league and should not benefit.
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How did UCONN and Cincy add to the downfall. They reacted to the demise from the thieving ACC and the colaborators Pitt and Cuse. Once the league splintered they did what they could to protect themselves. They deserve their share as they are NOT leaving the Big East. At least not yet.
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Yukon is still in the Big East because nobody wanted them. They have been begging for an ACC invite.
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And when the ACC loses a school or two to the BIG10 or anotther conference they will get the invite. The ACC's b"ball makesup will will look a lot like the old Big East plus the Duke's and other big b'ball names that currently reside there..
 
We can't take everything.

1. When we leave and how much.
2. The name
3. MSG

Three things on the table. We cannot win them all. So we need to think about what we REALLY need. To me its 1 and 3. I don't care about the name. Let them keep the name. Let it lower our exit fee and keep them away from MSG (least worry since I think MSG wants us more than them)
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We have to have MSG and I'd prefer to keep the name. If we threaten to stay for two more years, we may actually get all three (they don't want us for two more years, so they would potentially give in and let us go early without penalty).
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They have no problem keeping us around. We are the anxious ones. Granted they will also love us to leave early but it will cost. Just like the name will cost. Have weigh that and ask is it worth it?
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I look at it as we're in their way and preventing them from moving on as a league (hard to make commitments on dates to new members with this thing lingering, and they clearly need to move to find teams that help replace the gap that we will leave). As for cost, I don't know enough about the specifics and whether it truly is a cost or a reduction in the exit fees we will collect. I would think we have some negotiating room on the money. I would fight for the name up to some level of financial impact and see if we get them to bite.
 
I think that if a “group” (don’t know the #) of Schools leave together to form a “new” league (as opposed to defecting to an existing league) there is no exit fee at all.

I think the money fight is whether the departing bb schools should share in the money the former fb schools are paying/have paid to leave or paid to settle the lawsuit and leave on an accelerated basis.

The play I hear is the departing bb schools are willing to sacrifice getting some of the other exit fee $ in exchange for: (a) leaving early and (b) the name, with the emphasis on the name. Sort of comes down to “bying” the name.

When Arthur Anderson the big accounting giant, split between the “Audit” and “Consulting” partners, there was a fierce battle fought over the AA name and the consulting partners lost and the audit partners paid a lot for the brand name. Well flash forward a bunch of years later and the Enron scandal brought down AA in flames, and the former consulting partners were happier than hell, that they did not have the AA name but had morphed into Accenture. Imagine fighting hard for something that years later was the biggest negative in business.

SO I am not so sure that we should give them much for the name.
 
We can't take everything.

1. When we leave and how much.
2. The name
3. MSG

Three things on the table. We cannot win them all. So we need to think about what we REALLY need. To me its 1 and 3. I don't care about the name. Let them keep the name. Let it lower our exit fee and keep them away from MSG (least worry since I think MSG wants us more than them)
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We have to have MSG and I'd prefer to keep the name. If we threaten to stay for two more years, we may actually get all three (they don't want us for two more years, so they would potentially give in and let us go early without penalty).
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They have no problem keeping us around. We are the anxious ones. Granted they will also love us to leave early but it will cost. Just like the name will cost. Have weigh that and ask is it worth it?
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I look at it as we're in their way and preventing them from moving on as a league (hard to make commitments on dates to new members with this thing lingering, and they clearly need to move to find teams that help replace the gap that we will leave). As for cost, I don't know enough about the specifics and whether it truly is a cost or a reduction in the exit fees we will collect. I would think we have some negotiating room on the money. I would fight for the name up to some level of financial impact and see if we get them to bite.
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They should think of a name for the new league. The other teams really dont want that name. Geez most of them arent even in the East. They just want to wave the name around to wiggle money and concessions from the Catholic 7. If they see we have a name to use, they will fold for a few pennies
 
We can't take everything.

1. When we leave and how much.
2. The name
3. MSG

Three things on the table. We cannot win them all. So we need to think about what we REALLY need. To me its 1 and 3. I don't care about the name. Let them keep the name. Let it lower our exit fee and keep them away from MSG (least worry since I think MSG wants us more than them)
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I agree although on point 1 the $$$$ figure might matter more than when the schools leave. Let the fb schools take the name.
 
Big East is a basketball brand. It really is of no use to a football focused league. Also, it has no to any of the schools other than Uconn---and to a lesser extent, Cinci. It would actually be better for a football league to not be associated with the failure that was Big East football.
 
I think that if a “group” (don’t know the #) of Schools leave together to form a “new” league (as opposed to defecting to an existing league) there is no exit fee at all.

I think the money fight is whether the departing bb schools should share in the money the former fb schools are paying/have paid to leave or paid to settle the lawsuit and leave on an accelerated basis.

The play I hear is the departing bb schools are willing to sacrifice getting some of the other exit fee $ in exchange for: (a) leaving early and (b) the name, with the emphasis on the name. Sort of comes down to “bying” the name.

When Arthur Anderson the big accounting giant, split between the “Audit” and “Consulting” partners, there was a fierce battle fought over the AA name and the consulting partners lost and the audit partners paid a lot for the brand name. Well flash forward a bunch of years later and the Enron scandal brought down AA in flames, and the former consulting partners were happier than hell, that they did not have the AA name but had morphed into Accenture. Imagine fighting hard for something that years later was the biggest negative in business.

SO I am not so sure that we should give them much for the name.
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An excellent observation.
 
I think that if a “group” (don’t know the #) of Schools leave together to form a “new” league (as opposed to defecting to an existing league) there is no exit fee at all.

I think the money fight is whether the departing bb schools should share in the money the former fb schools are paying/have paid to leave or paid to settle the lawsuit and leave on an accelerated basis.

The play I hear is the departing bb schools are willing to sacrifice getting some of the other exit fee $ in exchange for: (a) leaving early and (b) the name, with the emphasis on the name. Sort of comes down to “bying” the name.

When Arthur Anderson the big accounting giant, split between the “Audit” and “Consulting” partners, there was a fierce battle fought over the AA name and the consulting partners lost and the audit partners paid a lot for the brand name. Well flash forward a bunch of years later and the Enron scandal brought down AA in flames, and the former consulting partners were happier than hell, that they did not have the AA name but had morphed into Accenture. Imagine fighting hard for something that years later was the biggest negative in business.

SO I am not so sure that we should give them much for the name.
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An excellent observation.
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Unless the 7 departing schools do something wrong, I don't see the relevance to AA at all.

We shouldn't break the bank to keep the name, but it's synonymous with great basketball and with most of the schools in the departing 7, so keeping it would be great if we can swing it.
 
I think that if a “group” (don’t know the #) of Schools leave together to form a “new” league (as opposed to defecting to an existing league) there is no exit fee at all.

I think the money fight is whether the departing bb schools should share in the money the former fb schools are paying/have paid to leave or paid to settle the lawsuit and leave on an accelerated basis.

The play I hear is the departing bb schools are willing to sacrifice getting some of the other exit fee $ in exchange for: (a) leaving early and (b) the name, with the emphasis on the name. Sort of comes down to “bying” the name.

When Arthur Anderson the big accounting giant, split between the “Audit” and “Consulting” partners, there was a fierce battle fought over the AA name and the consulting partners lost and the audit partners paid a lot for the brand name. Well flash forward a bunch of years later and the Enron scandal brought down AA in flames, and the former consulting partners were happier than hell, that they did not have the AA name but had morphed into Accenture. Imagine fighting hard for something that years later was the biggest negative in business.

SO I am not so sure that we should give them much for the name.
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Your first point was if we disbanded the league. But we didn't do that to my knowledge.
 
The Original Big East had a great 30 year run. It's over and done with.

Time for a new name.
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I still hope we keep the name Big East but you may be right, we may have to accept a new name. Of course that begs the obvious question, what will the new conference be called?

The Eastern Powers, The Big Atlantic, The Northeast Alliance, The Big Northeast, The Big City Conference, The Eastern Atlantic, just a few names to have fun with. Lets hear some others.
 
Some others, which I haven't given more than 2 seconds thinking about, would include: The All-American Conference, The Continental Conference, The Metropolitan League.

I will freely admit that none of the aforementioned is as good as Big East which described who we were as a group (before expansion).

The tricky part regarding a new name is that this league will be geographically dispersed.

The words "eastern", or "northeastern" may be problematic,
 
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