Lavin on WFAN today

SJU fans always leave me shaking my head. We are 4-1 with a chance to be 6-1 (which I fully expect) by the end of this week--after three games against power conference teams. Coach Lavin for the first time is playing with a player he recruited in their third season with him. He doesn't have a single senior that has been with him for the full four seasons. Almost all programs need that kind of returning player to bring the experience, strength, and skill that you need to add to the young guns. I'm too young to remember, but wasn't there a guard--David Cain maybe?--who did very little for three season and then produced a great senior season out of nowhere? That stuff happens every season in every conference. There are dozens of guys who have averages like 2 ppg as a frosh, 4.5 as a soph, and 16 as a junior. Khalif Wyatt of Temple only averaged .5 ppg as a frosh, 10 as a soph, and 17 as a junior, and 20.5 as a senior. We are convinced every kid is going to go to the NBA early, but at the same time threads pop up questioning Lavin's recruiting ability and one even asking if Roberts was a better talent evaluator. How the eff can both of those things be true? How can our roster be barren the next two years because everyone was drafted into the NBA, but, at the same time, Lavin be a terrible recruiter?

Can we just give this coach until March? I'm not even asking to let his first class of players reach their senior year. Just give the man until march. We've lost one damn game to a 7-0 top ten team 2,000 miles away. That game was within four points very late.

You make many fair points but many here prefer to place the blame on the kids by attacking their IQ or labeling them as one dimensional jumping jacks that are uncoachable. If that were true, then his recruiting would be questionable. I think we lag in player development and that is where I have called out the coaches.
Dollar to donuts if we are not an NCAA team this year those recruits will look elsewhere.

That is what some people thought prior to the staff landing the 2012 recruiting class. The same belief was also heard prior to Jordan coming aboard. I can recall a few people believed he was all but locked up for Temple because we had failed to go 'dancing.'

So, that belief isn't necessarily the gospel.
 
SJU fans always leave me shaking my head. We are 4-1 with a chance to be 6-1 (which I fully expect) by the end of this week--after three games against power conference teams. Coach Lavin for the first time is playing with a player he recruited in their third season with him. He doesn't have a single senior that has been with him for the full four seasons. Almost all programs need that kind of returning player to bring the experience, strength, and skill that you need to add to the young guns. I'm too young to remember, but wasn't there a guard--David Cain maybe?--who did very little for three season and then produced a great senior season out of nowhere? That stuff happens every season in every conference. There are dozens of guys who have averages like 2 ppg as a frosh, 4.5 as a soph, and 16 as a junior. Khalif Wyatt of Temple only averaged .5 ppg as a frosh, 10 as a soph, and 17 as a junior, and 20.5 as a senior. We are convinced every kid is going to go to the NBA early, but at the same time threads pop up questioning Lavin's recruiting ability and one even asking if Roberts was a better talent evaluator. How the eff can both of those things be true? How can our roster be barren the next two years because everyone was drafted into the NBA, but, at the same time, Lavin be a terrible recruiter?

Can we just give this coach until March? I'm not even asking to let his first class of players reach their senior year. Just give the man until march. We've lost one damn game to a 7-0 top ten team 2,000 miles away. That game was within four points very late.

You make many fair points but many here prefer to place the blame on the kids by attacking their IQ or labeling them as one dimensional jumping jacks that are uncoachable. If that were true, then his recruiting would be questionable. I think we lag in player development and that is where I have called out the coaches.
Dollar to donuts if we are not an NCAA team this year those recruits will look elsewhere.

That is what some people thought prior to the staff landing the 2012 recruiting class. The same belief was also heard prior to Jordan coming aboard. I can recall a few people believed he was all but locked up for Temple because we had failed to go 'dancing.'

So, that belief isn't necessarily the gospel.

The last two years we got very late commitments from a couple of high school kids still with respectable national rankings. 95% of the best players commit early so we are left to hope our targets do not get a better offer. 2014 does not have that hope as all the top dogs are committed. I am hoping for 2015 we can sell some ice to Eskimos.
 
We've lost one damn game to a 7-0 top ten team 2,000 miles away. That game was within four points very late.

So was the Monmouth game.

The 2 point last second win at home against SF State was "one damn game" to witness!
Alas, it does not count but it spoke volumes about preparation and readiness that has been repeated in every first half this young season.
 
SJU fans always leave me shaking my head. We are 4-1 with a chance to be 6-1 (which I fully expect) by the end of this week--after three games against power conference teams. Coach Lavin for the first time is playing with a player he recruited in their third season with him. He doesn't have a single senior that has been with him for the full four seasons. Almost all programs need that kind of returning player to bring the experience, strength, and skill that you need to add to the young guns. I'm too young to remember, but wasn't there a guard--David Cain maybe?--who did very little for three season and then produced a great senior season out of nowhere? That stuff happens every season in every conference. There are dozens of guys who have averages like 2 ppg as a frosh, 4.5 as a soph, and 16 as a junior. Khalif Wyatt of Temple only averaged .5 ppg as a frosh, 10 as a soph, and 17 as a junior, and 20.5 as a senior. We are convinced every kid is going to go to the NBA early, but at the same time threads pop up questioning Lavin's recruiting ability and one even asking if Roberts was a better talent evaluator. How the eff can both of those things be true? How can our roster be barren the next two years because everyone was drafted into the NBA, but, at the same time, Lavin be a terrible recruiter?

Can we just give this coach until March? I'm not even asking to let his first class of players reach their senior year. Just give the man until march. We've lost one damn game to a 7-0 top ten team 2,000 miles away. That game was within four points very late.

You make many fair points but many here prefer to place the blame on the kids by attacking their IQ or labeling them as one dimensional jumping jacks that are uncoachable. If that were true, then his recruiting would be questionable. I think we lag in player development and that is where I have called out the coaches.
Dollar to donuts if we are not an NCAA team this year those recruits will look elsewhere.

That is what some people thought prior to the staff landing the 2012 recruiting class. The same belief was also heard prior to Jordan coming aboard. I can recall a few people believed he was all but locked up for Temple because we had failed to go 'dancing.'

So, that belief isn't necessarily the gospel.

The last two years we got very late commitments from a couple of high school kids still with respectable national rankings. 95% of the best players commit early so we are left to hope our targets do not get a better offer. 2014 does not have that hope as all the top dogs are committed. I am hoping for 2015 we can sell some ice to Eskimos.

Frankly, I don't care what part of the year they commit.... Just as long as they commit here. Yes, I would prefer an early commitment, as that can get the ball rolling and give good vibes. But the ultimate job is to get them to sign, period.

Those recruits also committed AFTER our respective seasons had ended. Which, was the point of my response. They had the chance to see what happened, and still committed, nonetheless.

So, regardless what happens, there is still a chance we bring in a good class in '15.
 
SJU fans always leave me shaking my head. We are 4-1 with a chance to be 6-1 (which I fully expect) by the end of this week--after three games against power conference teams. Coach Lavin for the first time is playing with a player he recruited in their third season with him. He doesn't have a single senior that has been with him for the full four seasons. Almost all programs need that kind of returning player to bring the experience, strength, and skill that you need to add to the young guns. I'm too young to remember, but wasn't there a guard--David Cain maybe?--who did very little for three season and then produced a great senior season out of nowhere? That stuff happens every season in every conference. There are dozens of guys who have averages like 2 ppg as a frosh, 4.5 as a soph, and 16 as a junior. Khalif Wyatt of Temple only averaged .5 ppg as a frosh, 10 as a soph, and 17 as a junior, and 20.5 as a senior. We are convinced every kid is going to go to the NBA early, but at the same time threads pop up questioning Lavin's recruiting ability and one even asking if Roberts was a better talent evaluator. How the eff can both of those things be true? How can our roster be barren the next two years because everyone was drafted into the NBA, but, at the same time, Lavin be a terrible recruiter?

Can we just give this coach until March? I'm not even asking to let his first class of players reach their senior year. Just give the man until march. We've lost one damn game to a 7-0 top ten team 2,000 miles away. That game was within four points very late.

You make many fair points but many here prefer to place the blame on the kids by attacking their IQ or labeling them as one dimensional jumping jacks that are uncoachable. If that were true, then his recruiting would be questionable. I think we lag in player development and that is where I have called out the coaches.
Dollar to donuts if we are not an NCAA team this year those recruits will look elsewhere.

That is what some people thought prior to the staff landing the 2012 recruiting class. The same belief was also heard prior to Jordan coming aboard. I can recall a few people believed he was all but locked up for Temple because we had failed to go 'dancing.'

So, that belief isn't necessarily the gospel.

The last two years we got very late commitments from a couple of high school kids still with respectable national rankings. 95% of the best players commit early so we are left to hope our targets do not get a better offer. 2014 does not have that hope as all the top dogs are committed. I am hoping for 2015 we can sell some ice to Eskimos.

Frankly, I don't care what part of the year they commit.... Just as long as they commit here. Yes, I would prefer an early commitment, as that can get the ball rolling and give good vibes. But the ultimate job is to get them to sign, period.

Those recruits also committed AFTER our respective seasons had ended. Which, was the point of my response. They had the chance to see what happened, and still committed, nonetheless.

So, regardless what happens, there is still a chance we bring in a good class in '15.

A strong commitment by a player, any player, is usually made early and a sign of a strong sales job. A very late commitment is a gamble that sometimes backfires. A couple of years ago at an event I asked Louie what advice he gave Lavin and he said "just get the players" and as long as coach does that I am fine but the sooner you get that signature the sooner you can move to the next class. just my take.
 
SJU fans always leave me shaking my head. We are 4-1 with a chance to be 6-1 (which I fully expect) by the end of this week--after three games against power conference teams. Coach Lavin for the first time is playing with a player he recruited in their third season with him. He doesn't have a single senior that has been with him for the full four seasons. Almost all programs need that kind of returning player to bring the experience, strength, and skill that you need to add to the young guns. I'm too young to remember, but wasn't there a guard--David Cain maybe?--who did very little for three season and then produced a great senior season out of nowhere? That stuff happens every season in every conference. There are dozens of guys who have averages like 2 ppg as a frosh, 4.5 as a soph, and 16 as a junior. Khalif Wyatt of Temple only averaged .5 ppg as a frosh, 10 as a soph, and 17 as a junior, and 20.5 as a senior. We are convinced every kid is going to go to the NBA early, but at the same time threads pop up questioning Lavin's recruiting ability and one even asking if Roberts was a better talent evaluator. How the eff can both of those things be true? How can our roster be barren the next two years because everyone was drafted into the NBA, but, at the same time, Lavin be a terrible recruiter?

Can we just give this coach until March? I'm not even asking to let his first class of players reach their senior year. Just give the man until march. We've lost one damn game to a 7-0 top ten team 2,000 miles away. That game was within four points very late.

Well of course as an ex-coach you understand that evaluating a team by their record is most times nothing but fool's gold and expecting all our players to develop along the curve of a Khalif Wyatt is even more foolish? We have yet to see this group of talented players play as a winning TEAM, which means playing 40 minutes of passionate defense with a decided committment to rebounding while busting butt for EVERY loose ball; then we will be able to run abd use our athleticism. You keep yelling for us to press but to press you have to be committed to defense and playing hard and so far we have not exhibited that kind of desire. We can't stop the ball in the half court, what makes you think we can over the full court? This team needs to change their mindset to defense and rebounding every game, every minute because until they give more points for our baskets then the opponents we are not going to outgun major conference teams on the offensive end. As Bob Knight said, if you play against the game, not the other team, your record will take care of itself.
 
Lavin excels in the TV/Radio media.. He is a great interview and has a charismatic personality..I'm sure he returns to the booth at some point in the future, probably based on the west coast.

Unless a miracle happens, I don't see him getting a BIGGER Coaching job, after us..Too many people in the BB World have him figured out as a limited Coach with not much adaptability on the sidelines during the heat of the game.And, we seem to have stopped hearing the nonsense of this edition being the most talented team in the BE. Thankfully. Until its' shown on the Court.. We're waiting.

I'm disappointed he thinks the peak of this team is next year..Does he think he will have all his players back, excepting GG and Sanchez? No, saying next year is not what we want to hear this year. It means he's waffling on his team and players. MANANA, is not for Coaches because for many of them, it never comes.

You are disapponted that he he thinks our JUNIOR core will peak next year as seniors? GG is the fourt big man on the depth chart and was neck and neck with Jones for minutes in Europe. Jones will fill that "void" just fine. According to draftexpress, none of our players will be drafted in the first or second round in th 2014 draft. That means, assuming no D-Leaugue defections or transfers, we return our entire roster besides our fourth big man and Sanchez. Sanchez is obviously a tough loss, but everyone else will be stronger, more experienced, and better. Oh, and our top 25 PG will make that huge freshman to soph transition.

If I recall correctly didn't Lavin predict this team would peak around February of 2014, which is this season? Now, its' next year?

And, many posting here were proclaiming 6 NBA players on this year's roster.. That was before everybody got a look at this year's team.. I haven't seen any NBA comments recently, after we've pummeled Wagner, Bucknell, Monmouth and Longwood..
 
Mike just asked Minko how STJ has looked...he asked how Gods Gift was playing, and said he knows our PG has never seen a shot he doesn't like...Minko said which PG- Mike says you know who-- he clearly has no idea who is on this team.
 
Sports isn't that hard. All he has to do is read crap that someone else put in the legwork on and wrote about and he would learn something. I have no interest in hockey but if I had a sports show, I would make an effort to keep up with what's going on in the sport. He should, at minimum, be able to speak intelligently about the local teams---especially his alma mater. I don't know how anyone can listen to his crappy show.
 
Besides not funding the Scholarship which he promised and getting angry at the school for timidly asking him about it, he cares very little for SJU. He probably cares more about USF where he started out.

Before Lav came on last week, Mike sounded annoyed that he was even doing the interview. Was actually almost rude about it, like apologizing to his audience. Luckily that attitude did not carry over to the interview itself.

Clearly unless the coach is Boeheim, Calhoun or even more so Calipari, Mike does not give most others the time of day. We're lucky he puts Lav on. November according to Mike is too early to care about College BB. It only counts to him in March.

A couple of days later some poor slub got through the screener and wanted to talk college BB particularly URI and Danny Hurley and Mike said

"nobody cares about college BB in NYC unless St. John's is really really good. Not just good but really good.
And other local teams have to have a magical season, one for the ages, for anyone in NYC to care."

Then he cut the guy off and went back to Mets hot stove and A-Rod apologizing.
 
People always complain about Mike, yet continue to listen to him. Makes no sense.
 
Besides not funding the Scholarship which he promised and getting angry at the school for timidly asking him about it, he cares very little for SJU. He probably cares more about USF where he started out.

Before Lav came on last week, Mike sounded annoyed that he was even doing the interview. Was actually almost rude about it, like apologizing to his audience. Luckily that attitude did not carry over to the interview itself.

Clearly unless the coach is Boeheim, Calhoun or even more so Calipari, Mike does not give most others the time of day. We're lucky he puts Lav on. November according to Mike is too early to care about College BB. It only counts to him in March.

A couple of days later some poor slub got through the screener and wanted to talk college BB particularly URI and Danny Hurley and Mike said

"nobody cares about college BB in NYC unless St. John's is really really good. Not just good but really good.
And other local teams have to have a magical season, one for the ages, for anyone in NYC to care."

Then he cut the guy off and went back to Mets hot stove and A-Rod apologizing.

I've been away for 2 weeks and haven't followed any news. What did Arod apologize for ?
 
People always complain about Mike, yet continue to listen to him. Makes no sense.

There's no good alternative when you're driving home from work. So, we listen to him because we want to hear what's going on in the sports world, and then he pisses many of us off each and every time with his lousy attitude. If they would put someone else on in that timeslot who has any credibility at all, the ratings would be very good, but since the station doesn't have the guts to bounce that joker, we all suffer instead.

So, that's why I listen from time to time, get annoyed by his attitude and complain about what a jerk he is.
 
People always complain about Mike, yet continue to listen to him. Makes no sense.

There's no good alternative when you're driving home from work. So, we listen to him because we want to hear what's going on in the sports world, and then he pisses many of us off each and every time with his lousy attitude. If they would put someone else on in that timeslot who has any credibility at all, the ratings would be very good, but since the station doesn't have the guts to bounce that joker, we all suffer instead.

So, that's why I listen from time to time, get annoyed by his attitude and complain about what a jerk he is.

IMO Kay and Lagreca are much better listen..I know Kay can be a bit of a Yankee homer but they both are infinitely more articulate, smarter and better at conducting an interview than Francessa. He is wannabe intellectual.
 
People always complain about Mike, yet continue to listen to him. Makes no sense.

There's no good alternative when you're driving home from work. So, we listen to him because we want to hear what's going on in the sports world, and then he pisses many of us off each and every time with his lousy attitude. If they would put someone else on in that timeslot who has any credibility at all, the ratings would be very good, but since the station doesn't have the guts to bounce that joker, we all suffer instead.

So, that's why I listen from time to time, get annoyed by his attitude and complain about what a jerk he is.

IMO Kay and Lagreca are much better listen..I know Kay can be a bit of a Yankee homer but they both are infinitely more articulate, smarter and better at conducting an interview than Francessa. He is wannabe intellectual.

It's all personal preference, but for as much of a Yankee fan as I am, I can't listen to Michael Kay for very long. I find him trying too hard to show how much he knows about other sports, and his views are questionable at best. Lagreca is a better listen, but it's Kay's show, so always seems to take over the discussion.
 
People always complain about Mike, yet continue to listen to him. Makes no sense.

There's no good alternative when you're driving home from work. So, we listen to him because we want to hear what's going on in the sports world, and then he pisses many of us off each and every time with his lousy attitude. If they would put someone else on in that timeslot who has any credibility at all, the ratings would be very good, but since the station doesn't have the guts to bounce that joker, we all suffer instead.

So, that's why I listen from time to time, get annoyed by his attitude and complain about what a jerk he is.

Music :cheer:
 
The simulcast of Mike Francesa's afternoon radio show, a fixture on YES since the network launched in 2002, will leave the channel after its contract with WFAN expires Jan. 31, a radio industry source said Saturday.
Michael Kay's afternoon show on ESPN New York radio is expected to replace the Francesa simulcast on YES, the Daily News reported. Kay is YES' Yankees play-by-play man.
Kay's show will cost YES far less money than that of Francesa, but YES has been willing to pay handsomely for Francesa to this point. In 2009, Kay's radio show seemed bound for YES after MSG made a lucrative bid for Francesa, but YES decided to match the deal and retain the show.
Another potential motivation was frustration over Francesa's editorial content, notably his relatively sympathetic treatment of embattled third baseman Alex Rodriguez, including a recent in-studio interview with him.
It is unclear where Francesa's show will land, assuming he wants to continue a simulcast at all, but MSG -- which until September simulcast WFAN's morning show -- figures to be one possibility.
 
The simulcast of Mike Francesa's afternoon radio show, a fixture on YES since the network launched in 2002, will leave the channel after its contract with WFAN expires Jan. 31, a radio industry source said Saturday.
Michael Kay's afternoon show on ESPN New York radio is expected to replace the Francesa simulcast on YES, the Daily News reported. Kay is YES' Yankees play-by-play man.
Kay's show will cost YES far less money than that of Francesa, but YES has been willing to pay handsomely for Francesa to this point. In 2009, Kay's radio show seemed bound for YES after MSG made a lucrative bid for Francesa, but YES decided to match the deal and retain the show.
Another potential motivation was frustration over Francesa's editorial content, notably his relatively sympathetic treatment of embattled third baseman Alex Rodriguez, including a recent in-studio interview with him.
It is unclear where Francesa's show will land, assuming he wants to continue a simulcast at all, but MSG -- which until September simulcast WFAN's morning show -- figures to be one possibility.
or sny but with the mets not going to be on wfan I guess that wouldn't make much sense
 
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