Lavin Contract Extension

[ctstorm]

The sad thing is , recruiting is the only thing Lavins really good at. We have 4 scholis and possibly 1 more if CO leaves. So far we have no recruits signed and a project as a probable. And he has the nerve to say he is concentrating on 15 and 16.

If you were looing for an extension, wouldn't you say you are concentrating on 15-16?

 

[paultzman]

The sad thing is , recruiting is the only thing Lavins really good at. We have 4 scholis and possibly 1 more if CO leaves. So far we have no recruits signed and a project as a probable. And he has the nerve to say he is concentrating on 15 and 16.

If you were looing for an extension, wouldn't you say you are concentrating on 15-16?

Ding, ding, ding!

 

[mkras99]

Surprised no one asked about the extension at yesterday's press conference. Wonder if the school said that was off limits.

 

[paultzman]

Surprised no one asked about the extension at yesterday's press conference. Wonder if the school said that was off limits.

Interesting point. I am curious to see how these discussions unfold relative to length of any extension and guaranteed years. Will SJU be conservative & what will Coach Lavin's reaction be or will things go smoothly? We will see shortly.

 

[rcatalano]

If the university feels compelled to provide Lavin with an extension, I would give him no more than 2 additional years added to the remaining 2 years he has left. That should not hinder his recruiting efforts! I would NOT give him a 6 year extension!!!!!!!

 

[1and1sju]

Well at least we have not heard anything definitive, as opposed to JaKarr's situation at same time yesterday.

They'll space out the timing of the announcements.

 

[paultzman]

Well at least we have not heard anything definitive, as opposed to JaKarr's situation at same time yesterday.

They'll space out the timing of the announcements.

Good point. Small ball here we come. Adonis will fit right in with that.

 

[usguard]

If the university feels compelled to provide Lavin with an extension, I would give him no more than 2 additional years added to the remaining 2 years he has left. That should not hinder his recruiting efforts! I would NOT give him a 6 year extension!!!!!!!

Totally agree That way no one could say it would be effecting recruits for 2014 thru 2016

 

[redfazed]

The sad thing is , recruiting is the only thing Lavins really good at. We have 4 scholis and possibly 1 more if CO leaves. So far we have no recruits signed and a project as a probable. And he has the nerve to say he is concentrating on 15 and 16.

If you were looing for an extension, wouldn't you say you are concentrating on 15-16?

Ding, ding, ding!

Lavin was tweeting about an extension (see below) the day before the Marquette game. It was massively inappropriate to do that, given the 0-5 start, the team was still on the bubble, we had just lost to Xavier and Nova and we had a crucial game the next day. Self-promotion at its worst.

Steve Lavin ‏@SJUCoachLavin · Mar 7
We are pleased with the progress our basketball program has made. I look forward to being the coach at St. John’s for the long-term. #SJUBB

 

[Class of 72]

Surprised no one asked about the extension at yesterday's press conference. Wonder if the school said that was off limits.

Interesting point. I am curious to see how these discussions unfold relative to length of any extension and guaranteed years. Will SJU be conservative & what will Coach Lavin's reaction be or will things go smoothly? We will see shortly.

My gut tells me one more defection and the discussions may end and if he decides to walk there are 3 or 4 strong candidates with national reps that will line up for a $2 million + plus job in NYC. The pressure is on Lavin to get a couple of ready for college players next month and not in 2016.

 

[mkras99]

Surprised no one asked about the extension at yesterday's press conference. Wonder if the school said that was off limits.

Interesting point. I am curious to see how these discussions unfold relative to length of any extension and guaranteed years. Will SJU be conservative & what will Coach Lavin's reaction be or will things go smoothly? We will see shortly.

My gut tells me one more defection and the discussions may end and if he decides to walk there are 3 or 4 strong candidates with national reps that will line up for a $2 million + plus job in NYC. The pressure is on Lavin to get a couple of ready for college players next month and not in 2016.

Who are these candidates?

 

[fan5577]

Surprised no one asked about the extension at yesterday's press conference. Wonder if the school said that was off limits.

Interesting point. I am curious to see how these discussions unfold relative to length of any extension and guaranteed years. Will SJU be conservative & what will Coach Lavin's reaction be or will things go smoothly? We will see shortly.

My gut tells me one more defection and the discussions may end and if he decides to walk there are 3 or 4 strong candidates with national reps that will line up for a $2 million + plus job in NYC. The pressure is on Lavin to get a couple of ready for college players next month and not in 2016.

I do not see Sampson leaving as a "defection". It is a kid who wants to play pro ball being poorly advised. This leads to a bigger discussion on the expansion of the D league to give kids who have no desire to be in school a place to go, learn and be paid. Francessa touched on this yesterday. Expand the D league and kids can declare out of high school, if they go the college route they have to stay forn3 years. It is done this way in baseball & hockey but the college money making machines in football and basketball may be too adversely effected. Kids do it in baseball all the time. They are then drafted out of both high school and college. It gives the kids a choice; school (scholarship) or pay.

 

[Class of 72]

Surprised no one asked about the extension at yesterday's press conference. Wonder if the school said that was off limits.

Interesting point. I am curious to see how these discussions unfold relative to length of any extension and guaranteed years. Will SJU be conservative & what will Coach Lavin's reaction be or will things go smoothly? We will see shortly.

My gut tells me one more defection and the discussions may end and if he decides to walk there are 3 or 4 strong candidates with national reps that will line up for a $2 million + plus job in NYC. The pressure is on Lavin to get a couple of ready for college players next month and not in 2016.

I do not see Sampson leaving as a "defection". It is a kid who wants to play pro ball being poorly advised. This leads to a bigger discussion on the expansion of the D league to give kids who have no desire to be in school a place to go, learn and be paid. Francessa touched on this yesterday. Expand the D league and kids can declare out of high school, if they go the college route they have to stay forn3 years. It is done this way in baseball & hockey but the college money making machines in football and basketball may be too adversely effected. Kids do it in baseball all the time. They are then drafted out of both high school and college. It gives the kids a choice; school (scholarship) or pay.

As long as a kid is 19 he can declare right out of high school if he is THAT good. Most high schools players are not remotely ready for any level of pro ball and those that go to college that are NBA caliber only stay one year where get get 10 times the exposure and publicity a D league team in Laramie Wyoming could ever offer! The coaching in the D league is laughable, at best. It is like recommending to a high school kid who wants to be an engineer that he go to a trade school and not MIT when he has the skills for MIT.

 

[usguard]

Surprised no one asked about the extension at yesterday's press conference. Wonder if the school said that was off limits.

Interesting point. I am curious to see how these discussions unfold relative to length of any extension and guaranteed years. Will SJU be conservative & what will Coach Lavin's reaction be or will things go smoothly? We will see shortly.

My gut tells me one more defection and the discussions may end and if he decides to walk there are 3 or 4 strong candidates with national reps that will line up for a $2 million + plus job in NYC. The pressure is on Lavin to get a couple of ready for college players next month and not in 2016.

I do not see Sampson leaving as a "defection". It is a kid who wants to play pro ball being poorly advised. This leads to a bigger discussion on the expansion of the D league to give kids who have no desire to be in school a place to go, learn and be paid. Francessa touched on this yesterday. Expand the D league and kids can declare out of high school, if they go the college route they have to stay forn3 years. It is done this way in baseball & hockey but the college money making machines in football and basketball may be too adversely effected. Kids do it in baseball all the time. They are then drafted out of both high school and college. It gives the kids a choice; school (scholarship) or pay.

Think you are under estimating his talent and potential

 

[fan5577]

Surprised no one asked about the extension at yesterday's press conference. Wonder if the school said that was off limits.

Interesting point. I am curious to see how these discussions unfold relative to length of any extension and guaranteed years. Will SJU be conservative & what will Coach Lavin's reaction be or will things go smoothly? We will see shortly.

My gut tells me one more defection and the discussions may end and if he decides to walk there are 3 or 4 strong candidates with national reps that will line up for a $2 million + plus job in NYC. The pressure is on Lavin to get a couple of ready for college players next month and not in 2016.

I do not see Sampson leaving as a "defection". It is a kid who wants to play pro ball being poorly advised. This leads to a bigger discussion on the expansion of the D league to give kids who have no desire to be in school a place to go, learn and be paid. Francessa touched on this yesterday. Expand the D league and kids can declare out of high school, if they go the college route they have to stay forn3 years. It is done this way in baseball & hockey but the college money making machines in football and basketball may be too adversely effected. Kids do it in baseball all the time. They are then drafted out of both high school and college. It gives the kids a choice; school (scholarship) or pay.

As long as a kid is 19 he can declare right out of high school if he is THAT good. Most high schools players are not remotely ready for any level of pro ball and those that go to college that are NBA caliber only stay one year where get get 10 times the exposure and publicity a D league team in Laramie Wyoming could ever offer! The coaching in the D league is laughable, at best. It is like recommending to a high school kid who wants to be an engineer that he go to a trade school and not MIT when he has the skills for MIT.

that is true for the way things are now. I know I am living in a dream world thinking colleges would agree to a system that may see them have to pass on these players who create so much revenue for the school; but if each team was required to have 2 "minor league" affiliates one for younber kids out of HS (AA) and one for older not guite there players (current D league types) it would alleviate a lot of what is going on now and give kids an option. Professionals are drafted out of both settings in baseball and hockey now. Just an unrealistic though. Too much money at stake.

 

[ras]

The sad thing is , recruiting is the only thing Lavins really good at. We have 4 scholis and possibly 1 more if CO leaves. So far we have no recruits signed and a project as a probable. And he has the nerve to say he is concentrating on 15 and 16.

If you were looing for an extension, wouldn't you say you are concentrating on 15-16?

If I was looking for an extension I would take care of 2014 first. But you never know w Lavin maybe he has 3 descent recruits for 14 lined up. If I was SJU and he lost Sampson and CO and he doesn't replace at least one w a BE level player, I would think twice about giving him an extension.

 

[austour]

Surprised no one asked about the extension at yesterday's press conference. Wonder if the school said that was off limits.

Interesting point. I am curious to see how these discussions unfold relative to length of any extension and guaranteed years. Will SJU be conservative & what will Coach Lavin's reaction be or will things go smoothly? We will see shortly.

My gut tells me one more defection and the discussions may end and if he decides to walk there are 3 or 4 strong candidates with national reps that will line up for a $2 million + plus job in NYC. The pressure is on Lavin to get a couple of ready for college players next month and not in 2016.

Who are these candidates?

1. The silence is deafening
2. I think they're hanging with Bobre's PG's

 

[mkras99]

Surprised no one asked about the extension at yesterday's press conference. Wonder if the school said that was off limits.

Interesting point. I am curious to see how these discussions unfold relative to length of any extension and guaranteed years. Will SJU be conservative & what will Coach Lavin's reaction be or will things go smoothly? We will see shortly.

My gut tells me one more defection and the discussions may end and if he decides to walk there are 3 or 4 strong candidates with national reps that will line up for a $2 million + plus job in NYC. The pressure is on Lavin to get a couple of ready for college players next month and not in 2016.

Who are these candidates?

1. The silence is deafening
2. I think they're hanging with Bobre's PG's

Vernon Teel would be a great replacement for Lavin.

 

[mjmaherjr]

Surprised no one asked about the extension at yesterday's press conference. Wonder if the school said that was off limits.

Interesting point. I am curious to see how these discussions unfold relative to length of any extension and guaranteed years. Will SJU be conservative & what will Coach Lavin's reaction be or will things go smoothly? We will see shortly.

My gut tells me one more defection and the discussions may end and if he decides to walk there are 3 or 4 strong candidates with national reps that will line up for a $2 million + plus job in NYC. The pressure is on Lavin to get a couple of ready for college players next month and not in 2016.

Who are these candidates?

1. The silence is deafening
2. I think they're hanging with Bobre's PG's

Vernon Teel would be a great replacement for Lavin.

the Vernon Teel posts back in the day were redmen.com pure gold

 

[SJUISBACK]

If the university feels compelled to provide Lavin with an extension, I would give him no more than 2 additional years added to the remaining 2 years he has left. That should not hinder his recruiting efforts! I would NOT give him a 6 year extension!!!!!!!

Totally agree That way no one could say it would be effecting recruits for 2014 thru 2016

What if we extend him, and we still don`t get the top guys? The we extended him for nothing.