Landing Spots for SJU Transfers

As expected, Vince Cole is off to Coastal Carolina. Our Boo Harvey not getting Coastal season tickets. :)
 
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I remember when everyone was worried about the mass exodus of players transferring up...............
 
Paultzman post=433628 said:
As expected, Vince Cole is off to Coastal Carolina. Our Boo Harvey not getting Coastal season tickets. :)
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Had a great year in football. Beat Zach Wilson's BYU team.
 
Wish Vince all the best. I had high hopes for him, didn't work out. He should thrive in the Sun Belt conference. Maybe I'll get to see him play against App State next year. 
 
Paultzman post=433628 said:
As expected, Vince Cole is off to Coastal Carolina. Our Boo Harvey not getting Coastal season tickets. :)

I wish him the best.  I like the reprise of your avi and hope it means something.
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Duke of Earlington post=433637 said:
Every kid transferred down.  Unreal.
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I don't think it's unreal at all. The only one who I think should have been lateral or higher is Moore. Guess the attitude outweighed what he can do.

As others have mentioned, it makes the staff look pretty good considering the season we had.
 
 
Dont blame Earlington.  Will get to play a much bigger role and San Diego is a beautiful place.  Wont see many Ws though.  They play in the same league as Gonzaga.
 
 
I think the Players who left all wanted more PT or a bigger Role on the Team .  The idea that they transferred down seems to suggest that it’s a negative on those players .. Several of those who transferred could have stayed . Notably Williams and Earlington . Moore from a ability level but , obviously there were other issues that precluded his remaining . Williams and Earlington had established credentials they could play in the BE , without question .In all likelihood they could have transferred to teams elsewhere at a comparable level as the BE but , wouldn’t have seen either the PT or Role they were looking for .  It doesn’t diminish them as Players that the Teams they transferred to will give them their desired stature . I haven’t listed Dunn, as his situation as a 5 th year Graduate player is a bit different .  He wasn’t going to get the SG minutes or Role he played this year , if he came back . At Robert Morris , he will get to play the Role he wants . Cole will get the minutes he wants and maybe the green light to shoot at will . He’s also closer to home at Coastal Carolina being  a hour or so from Charleston , SC . 
 
SLYFOXX1968 post=433704 said:
I think the Players who left all wanted more PT or a bigger Role on the Team .  The idea that they transferred down seems to suggest that it’s a negative on those players .. Several of those who transferred could have stayed . Notably Williams and Earlington . Moore from a ability level but , obviously there were other issues that precluded his remaining . Williams and Earlington had established credentials they could play in the BE , without question .In all likelihood they could have transferred to teams elsewhere at a comparable level as the BE but , wouldn’t have seen either the PT or Role they were looking for .  It doesn’t diminish them as Players that the Teams they transferred to will give them their desired stature . I haven’t listed Dunn, as his situation as a 5 th year Graduate player is a bit different .  He wasn’t going to get the SG minutes or Role he played this year , if he came back . At Robert Morris , he will get to play the Role he wants . Cole will get the minutes he wants and maybe the green light to shoot at will . He’s also closer to home at Coastal Carolina being  a hour or so from Charleston , SC . 
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I agree with much of what you are saying.  Two points I would make pertain to Williams and Cole.  When healthy, Greg was playing as much as anyone on the team.  It's hard to say that PT was his motivation for walking.  I think hIs decision was a bit more complex.

With Cole, he may have wanted more minutes, but he already had the green light to shoot.  In fact, he was being encouraged to shoot it more.  Beyond shooting, it is possible that Cole (himself) was unsure whether the rest of his game could develop at this level. 
 
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Most of the guys that left can play at this level.  But the only one that has a ceiling of being a solid, regular starter is Williams, and that is contingent on his health.  What it shows is that the staff did a great job last year using these guys in their defined roles.  Moore and Cellus, for example, were used IMO as exactly how they should have been.  And because they were used correctly, Anderson was able to get good contributions for them.  They all wanted bigger roles so they went down a level, and nothing wrong with that.  But where they went shows the staff did a darn good job and used those kids in the appropriate roles, which is so important in coaching and often glossed over.
 
Rob post=433716 said:
Most of the guys that left can play at this level.  But the only one that has a ceiling of being a solid, regular starter is Williams, and that is contingent on his health.  What it shows is that the staff did a great job last year using these guys in their defined roles.  Moore and Cellus, for example, were used IMO as exactly how they should have been.  And because they were used correctly, Anderson was able to get good contributions for them.  They all wanted bigger roles so they went down a level, and nothing wrong with that.  But where they went shows the staff did a darn good job and used those kids in the appropriate roles, which is so important in coaching and often glossed over.

I think Moore also had potential to be a Big East-calibet regular but we'll never know.
 
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Chicago Days post=433717 said:
Rob post=433716 said:
Most of the guys that left can play at this level.  But the only one that has a ceiling of being a solid, regular starter is Williams, and that is contingent on his health.  What it shows is that the staff did a great job last year using these guys in their defined roles.  Moore and Cellus, for example, were used IMO as exactly how they should have been.  And because they were used correctly, Anderson was able to get good contributions for them.  They all wanted bigger roles so they went down a level, and nothing wrong with that.  But where they went shows the staff did a darn good job and used those kids in the appropriate roles, which is so important in coaching and often glossed over.

I think Moore also had potential to be a Big East-calibet regular but we'll never know.

 
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He was the most productive bench player in the BE, that’s gotta say something.
 
For sure, but I think at this level that's where he was suited best.  Limiting his outside shots and wild play-making from the perimeter.  Living in the paint area and transition.  I think a bit "less" was "more" with him.  He's not, at the BE level, a back-to-the basket throw it in the post kind of offensive player.  Nor did I love him roaming and shooting beyond the arc/deep jumpers, even though he can makes those at times.  The occasional short jumper, put-backs, dunks off penetration and in transition is where he's best and why his FG% skyrocketed when he played in that structure.  The occasional 3 was fine, but he was best when he wasn't roaming on the perimeter.  

Now down a level, he may be able to show off a more versatile skill-set successfully because of the talent drop in competition.  
 
Amaseinyourface post=433718 said:
Chicago Days post=433717 said:
Rob post=433716 said:
Most of the guys that left can play at this level.  But the only one that has a ceiling of being a solid, regular starter is Williams, and that is contingent on his health.  What it shows is that the staff did a great job last year using these guys in their defined roles.  Moore and Cellus, for example, were used IMO as exactly how they should have been.  And because they were used correctly, Anderson was able to get good contributions for them.  They all wanted bigger roles so they went down a level, and nothing wrong with that.  But where they went shows the staff did a darn good job and used those kids in the appropriate roles, which is so important in coaching and often glossed over.

I think Moore also had potential to be a Big East-calibet regular but we'll never know.



 
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He was the most productive bench player in the BE, that’s gotta say something.
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Only thing that can stop Moore.....is Moore.
 
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JohnnyFan wrote:

Only thing that could stop Moore.....is Moore.

Sometimes that's tougher than any defense he'll face.
 
Calling on Moose to moderate a separate thread on how tall Josh Roberts actually is based on this evidence.
 
SJUNC post=434331 said:
Calling on Moose to moderate a separate thread on how tall Josh Roberts actually is based on this evidence.

Odom is 6’10 and Roberts lists as 6’9.  Seems about right to me.  Maybe He’s 6’8.
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